Going all in all oil tankers this week.

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If I crash and burn use this thread to laugh at my misfortune.

If however, the earnings that have been rumoured are true, well, I won’t have to work for a few years.

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Pardon the pun, but haven't you already missed the boat on this? This was big news like 2 days ago.
 
14136535:TheMailMan said:
Pardon the pun, but haven't you already missed the boat on this? This was big news like 2 days ago.
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Yes, but there is still a lot more action to come this week.

I was looking at tankers like 3 weeks ago before the hype with NAT but didn’t pull the trigger smfhhhh
 
14136536:O1L_CH4D said:
Yes, but there is still a lot more action to come this week.

I was looking at tankers like 3 weeks ago before the hype with NAT but didn’t pull the trigger smfhhhh
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Fair, risky move but hope it pans out for ya. Hope they don't tank again. I'll see myself out.
 
Let me recap your bullshit so far:

- completely new to investing/trading, doesn't even know what a ticker is

- invested a few G's in random stocks with expectations to get 1000+% return by EOY

- never shared an actual portfolio screencap as proof of any of your claims

- despite claiming to only have a few G's saved a few weeks ago, now you're claiming that if you turn out right you won't have to work for a few years implying that you either have 6 figures in your brokerage account or you expect a 10000+% return on your obscure play

And now you supposedly go "all in" with a play on commodities, which is fucking retarded no matter which way you look at it. None of your "plays" have been conceived with a upside/downside risk calculation, it's all just random nonsense.

Look, maybe you did invest in everything you said you did, and maybe you'll get very lucky and make a fortune, dumber assholes than you have been known to get lucky, in which case I'd be stoked for you, but you make it super hard for me to take you seriously bruh.
 
14136627:Monsieur_Patate said:
Let me recap your bullshit so far:

- completely new to investing/trading, doesn't even know what a ticker is

- invested a few G's in random stocks with expectations to get 1000+% return by EOY

- never shared an actual portfolio screencap as proof of any of your claims

- despite claiming to only have a few G's saved a few weeks ago, now you're claiming that if you turn out right you won't have to work for a few years implying that you either have 6 figures in your brokerage account or you expect a 10000+% return on your obscure play

And now you supposedly go "all in" with a play on commodities, which is fucking retarded no matter which way you look at it. None of your "plays" have been conceived with a upside/downside risk calculation, it's all just random nonsense.

Look, maybe you did invest in everything you said you did, and maybe you'll get very lucky and make a fortune, dumber assholes than you have been known to get lucky, in which case I'd be stoked for you, but you make it super hard for me to take you seriously bruh.
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I think he tagged you to make you mad and it looks like he was successful
 
14136628:rice.chex said:
I think he tagged you to make you mad and it looks like he was successful
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lmao yeah, so mad right now bruh, OP trolled me so hard.

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14136634:Monsieur_Patate said:
lmao yeah, so mad right now bruh, OP trolled me so hard.

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All I'm saying is you replying to his thread in the manner which you did is likely the exact reaction op wanted from you
 
14136627:Monsieur_Patate said:
Let me recap your bullshit so far:

- completely new to investing/trading, doesn't even know what a ticker is

- invested a few G's in random stocks with expectations to get 1000+% return by EOY

- never shared an actual portfolio screencap as proof of any of your claims

- despite claiming to only have a few G's saved a few weeks ago, now you're claiming that if you turn out right you won't have to work for a few years implying that you either have 6 figures in your brokerage account or you expect a 10000+% return on your obscure play

And now you supposedly go "all in" with a play on commodities, which is fucking retarded no matter which way you look at it. None of your "plays" have been conceived with a upside/downside risk calculation, it's all just random nonsense.

Look, maybe you did invest in everything you said you did, and maybe you'll get very lucky and make a fortune, dumber assholes than you have been known to get lucky, in which case I'd be stoked for you, but you make it super hard for me to take you seriously bruh.
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my total portfolio is 8000 if I make 20000 of this play I’ll be able to make it for a few years living frugally
 
14136634:Monsieur_Patate said:
lmao yeah, so mad right now bruh, OP trolled me so hard.

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>Durr I’m retarded

>look at how retarded I am

”Let me recap your bullshit so far:

- completely new to investing/trading, doesn't even know what a ticker is

- invested a few G's in random stocks with expectations to get 1000+% return by EOY

- never shared an actual portfolio screencap as proof of any of your claims

- despite claiming to only have a few G's saved a few weeks ago, now you're claiming that if you turn out right you won't have to work for a few years implying that you either have 6 figures in your brokerage account or you expect a 10000+% return on your obscure play

And now you supposedly go "all in" with a play on commodities, which is fucking retarded no matter which way you look at it. None of your "plays" have been conceived with a upside/downside risk calculation, it's all just random nonsense.

Look, maybe you did invest in everything you said you did, and maybe you'll get very lucky and make a fortune, dumber assholes than you have been known to get lucky, in which case I'd be stoked for you, but you make it super hard for me to take you seriously bruh.”

>Le epic win
 
14136634:Monsieur_Patate said:
lmao yeah, so mad right now bruh, OP trolled me so hard.

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Usually when kids like you write multiple paragraph responses and then claim you know he's a silly troll, you got trolled. You idiots cannot be more obvious and its hilarious to see how easily you can be baited. But yes, keep pretending like you knew he wasn't serious all along with fucktarded gifs and images.
 
14136664:skierman said:
Usually when kids like you write multiple paragraph responses and then claim you know he's a silly troll, you got trolled. You idiots cannot be more obvious and its hilarious to see how easily you can be baited. But yes, keep pretending like you knew he wasn't serious all along with fucktarded gifs and images.
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You're trying too hard buddy.
 
14136668:Monsieur_Patate said:
You're trying too hard buddy.
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Says the kid who made a multi-paragraph post dissecting the poster's behavior over the past few weeks despite you claiming you knew he was kidding. Alright, buddy.
 
14136660:O1L_CH4D said:
my total portfolio is 8000 if I make 20000 of this play I’ll be able to make it for a few years living frugally
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Living where lol. 20000 goes quick.
 
14136536:O1L_CH4D said:
Yes, but there is still a lot more action to come this week.

I was looking at tankers like 3 weeks ago before the hype with NAT but didn’t pull the trigger smfhhhh
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Don’t do it now.

NAT, SNTG, and TGP are all gonna go even lower. The reason it jumped up a few weeks was the excessive amounts of oil shipping from Middle East had to go somewhere which is why storage tankers jumped up so high. So now that they realize the problem they are purposely slowing the rate more so oil doesn’t go negative again this coming month.
 
14136700:50Kal said:
Don’t do it now.

NAT, SNTG, and TGP are all gonna go even lower. The reason it jumped up a few weeks was the excessive amounts of oil shipping from Middle East had to go somewhere which is why storage tankers jumped up so high. So now that they realize the problem they are purposely slowing the rate more so oil doesn’t go negative again this coming month.
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This week will be a bloodbath I’m guessing. I can’t time the fucking thing, but I’m guessing I can snag a sweet deal Thursday or Friday.

eurn and stng are already undervalued.
 
14136703:O1L_CH4D said:
This week will be a bloodbath I’m guessing. I can’t time the fucking thing, but I’m guessing I can snag a sweet deal Thursday or Friday.

eurn and stng are already undervalued.
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Look at the 5 year runs of eurn and STNG. What makes you think they have any possibility is making a decent run right now?

Oil folks won’t let barrels go negative again.
 
14136720:50Kal said:
Look at the 5 year runs of eurn and STNG. What makes you think they have any possibility is making a decent run right now?

Oil folks won’t let barrels go negative again.
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I really can’t be bothered explaining my viewpoint. DYOR
 
14136727:O1L_CH4D said:
I really can’t be bothered explaining my viewpoint. DYOR
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My bad. I thought we were people on a ski website having a discussion about investing possibilities and hopefully getting gains for each other.

Instead your trying to brag about your shitty investing ideas on a ski fourm and when challenged about your thought process your gonna just throw out “can’t be bothered to explain and a DYOR”?

Okay Warren Buffet. Good luck.
 
14136735:50Kal said:
My bad. I thought we were people on a ski website having a discussion about investing possibilities and hopefully getting gains for each other.

Instead your trying to brag about your shitty investing ideas on a ski fourm and when challenged about your thought process your gonna just throw out “can’t be bothered to explain and a DYOR”?

Okay Warren Buffet. Good luck.
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I didn’t mean to come across like that lol, it’s the fact I have to do all my investing research and posting on Internet forums on my fucking iPhone lol.

So seeing as you seem rational here you go.

case for STNG: fuel spot rates at 3-5x. Stng specialises in clean tankers and is well posed to operate on the future. Plus all the zoomers on robin hood haven’t really looked at any other tanker stock asides from NAT. Their LR1s and 2s are making a stupid amount of money now. Earnings report coming out on the 6th I think (I may be wrong)

case for EURN - pretty much the same as STNG. They have dirty tankers, and lots (VLCCs) which are posed well now to take advantage of near ath spot charter rates. The rumours have been they’ve been making more in q1 than in five years. Earnings report coming this week.

I won’t deny there’s a tonne of speculation about what OPEC will do. All those future contracts etc. who knows what’s going to happen, all I know is these historical charter rates (or maybe it’s less than expected) will be released this week, so it’s not to late. As many people are waiting for these to make moves.

also I know I’m what people consider a troll, whoever this week I’m putting 5000 into these EURN and STNG, selling XOM on Monday cause I think it’s gonna be a bloodbath

**This post was edited on May 3rd 2020 at 12:50:07am
 
14136690:skierman said:
Says the kid who made a multi-paragraph post dissecting the poster's behavior over the past few weeks despite you claiming you knew he was kidding. Alright, buddy.
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Not my point. I don't claim to know (or frankly care) if OP was/is trolling.

My point is that even if these are all troll posts, I don't think it has the effect on people you seem to think it has, I don't think anyone over the age of 13 actually gets emotional over a stranger's dumb takes on an online forum.

But "trolling" being your lifelong passion, I can see why you'd care.

I'm making this a multi paragraph post just for you, I hope you appreciate it.
 
14136736:O1L_CH4D said:
I didn’t mean to come across like that lol, it’s the fact I have to do all my investing research and posting on Internet forums on my fucking iPhone lol.

So seeing as you seem rational here you go.

case for STNG: fuel spot rates at 3-5x. Stng specialises in clean tankers and is well posed to operate on the future. Plus all the zoomers on robin hood haven’t really looked at any other tanker stock asides from NAT. Their LR1s and 2s are making a stupid amount of money now. Earnings report coming out on the 6th I think (I may be wrong)

case for EURN - pretty much the same as STNG. They have dirty tankers, and lots (VLCCs) which are posed well now to take advantage of near ath spot charter rates. The rumours have been they’ve been making more in q1 than in five years. Earnings report coming this week.

I won’t deny there’s a tonne of speculation about what OPEC will do. All those future contracts etc. who knows what’s going to happen, all I know is these historical charter rates (or maybe it’s less than expected) will be released this week, so it’s not to late. As many people are waiting for these to make moves.

also I know I’m what people consider a troll, whoever this week I’m putting 5000 into these EURN and STNG, selling XOM on Monday cause I think it’s gonna be a bloodbath

**This post was edited on May 3rd 2020 at 12:50:07am
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I still think it's a risky play with little upside. The OPEC cut has started, rates are already plunging, and if the outlook is confirmed to be to a destocking cycle, then it's going to keep plunging mid term, and future earning projections with them.

Q1 earning reports might generate some buys and raise the stock price a bit higher, but I don't think it can realistically get you the 250% return you're projecting, but maybe a few points if you time it right, who knows.
 
14136779:Monsieur_Patate said:
I still think it's a risky play with little upside. The OPEC cut has started, rates are already plunging, and if the outlook is confirmed to be to a destocking cycle, then it's going to keep plunging mid term, and future earning projections with them.

Q1 earning reports might generate some buys and raise the stock price a bit higher, but I don't think it can realistically get you the 250% return you're projecting, but maybe a few points if you time it right, who knows.
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The 250% is a meme in fact most people are aware of this but I shitpost whatever’s on my head regardless of anything

STNG and EURN are great buys for the future regardless of if they pump in q1-2 or not. But from what I’ve read, they will be parmping and I intend to play these short term gains. I’ve got a fallback to just put all my cash into daddy Exxon anyway

opec cuts will take a while to kick in
 
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