Goggles Over Helmet

yzzid

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I’m in the market for a new helmet. I think I’m over rocking my goggles underneath. It’s time for me. I’m not the park rat I used to be. Does anyone know what are some good helmets I should look at? I see a lot of pros with a super low profile helmet that looks great with wearing the goggles over them.
 
Im running the Salomon Brigade helmet and its really sleek looking, plus i can rock my goggles both over and under depending on how i be feeling
 
i mean the goggles are designed to go over the helmet. it aligns the goggles and helmet vents for better goggle performance (marginally at best though). that being said i just got a new helmet and goggle combo and am trying my hardest to rock the under the helmet look ?
 
14573923:lakebed said:
Smith code!!1 idk i like it

14574035:Session said:
Seriously, people sleeping on the Code are missing out

i was looking at the code but i didn’t like the ear pieces were going to always be on. i went with the smith method because you can remove the ear pieces and also the back part so you can go goggles/beanie under the helmet or keep it in and go over helmet. also the ear piece has a zipper for bluetooth chips and they can charge easily in the helmet itself. from what i could tell you had to dangle the chip out of the helmet to charge it. same with the oakley mod 1

i wish they still made the smith maze tbh
 
14574257:PartyBullshiit said:
I’ve been genuinely shocked how many rurocs I actually see in person. Not because they’re crazy looking but just the cost.

I have noticed I’ve seen a lot of the “bike skiers” wearing them. Less skiers and even less boarders

One of the locals in snowmass has been wearing one this season. Not sure if he skis or snowboards because Im always busy staring at the helmet. I think this is the model. I would've thought this was pretty cool when I was 9.

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wtf?? yall switched up big time in this thread, ns has been super anti goggles over helmet in the past. like thinking only a jerry would do that. why'd you change your minds as soon as i went goggs under lol. fwiw i have my earpads out, got the beanie with gogs under look. my face gets too hot though so i lowk been wearing them over my helmet harlaut style, which i actually like. i can't wear them on the helmet normal because they fall down if i jump or rip some moguls.
 
topic:yzzid said:
I’m in the market for a new helmet. I think I’m over rocking my goggles underneath. It’s time for me. I’m not the park rat I used to be. Does anyone know what are some good helmets I should look at? I see a lot of pros with a super low profile helmet that looks great with wearing the goggles over them.

poc obex, very comfy and you can take out earpads
 
14574364:SteezyYeeter said:
wtf?? yall switched up big time in this thread, ns has been super anti goggles over helmet in the past. like thinking only a jerry would do that. why'd you change your minds as soon as i went goggs under lol. fwiw i have my earpads out, got the beanie with gogs under look. my face gets too hot though so i lowk been wearing them over my helmet harlaut style, which i actually like. i can't wear them on the helmet normal because they fall down if i jump or rip some moguls.

Steezyyeeter alltime trend setting mastermind
 
14574364:SteezyYeeter said:
wtf?? yall switched up big time in this thread, ns has been super anti goggles over helmet in the past. like thinking only a jerry would do that. why'd you change your minds as soon as i went goggs under lol. fwiw i have my earpads out, got the beanie with gogs under look. my face gets too hot though so i lowk been wearing them over my helmet harlaut style, which i actually like. i can't wear them on the helmet normal because they fall down if i jump or rip some moguls.

I been rocking goggles over and advocating for it on here for years people just finally started listening
 
14574364:SteezyYeeter said:
wtf?? yall switched up big time in this thread, ns has been super anti goggles over helmet in the past. like thinking only a jerry would do that. why'd you change your minds as soon as i went goggs under lol. fwiw i have my earpads out, got the beanie with gogs under look. my face gets too hot though so i lowk been wearing them over my helmet harlaut style, which i actually like. i can't wear them on the helmet normal because they fall down if i jump or rip some moguls.

let them follow the trends
 
14574561:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
let them follow the trends

Funny considering gogs under is literally a trend, you aren't supposed to wear them like that it's just anesthetics, which is exactly what a trend is all about
 
14574576:Farmville420 said:
Funny considering gogs under is literally a trend, you aren't supposed to wear them like that it's just anesthetics, which is exactly what a trend is all about

aesthetics*** fuckin autocorrect
 
I ran into a group having this debate in the lift line the other day. I explained my reasons and then we all agreed that the over the goggles guys just don't go hard enough to have the same concerns
 
Lol at wearing either goggles or a helmet. Sunglasses only for me and I have some with higher VLT goggle tint for cloudy days

I stopped wearing a helmet all together because my neck gets fucked up bad from all the selfish cunts who immediately yank the bar down the second they sit down. I’m tall and it hits if I don’t duck. Not trying to be cool or anything either but I get a stiff neck from bar nazis 1/2 the time I wear it so I just don’t. Remember these people don’t even let their feet leave the ground before they yank if your not really tall it doesnt effect you though.
 
14574576:Farmville420 said:
Funny considering gogs under is literally a trend, you aren't supposed to wear them like that it's just anesthetics, which is exactly what a trend is all about

It's more comfortable and preserves the elasticity of the goggle band. Also resting your goggles on your helmet damages the foam padding. Though I do believe people jumped on the bandwaggon once it became popular, glad they are gettting off nowadays.
 
14574630:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
It's more comfortable and preserves the elasticity of the goggle band. Also resting your goggles on your helmet damages the foam padding. Though I do believe people jumped on the bandwaggon once it became popular, glad they are gettting off nowadays.

You're still applying tension to the band if the goggles are under your helmet, i dont understand where you got that from but that doesnt even make sense, same with the foam padding thing, goggles sitting on your face also deforms the padding. Like applying a load will deform materials over time, doesn't matter if it is your face or the helmet they're resting on. Comfort is subjective so sure if you think it's more comfortable then whatever lol, the other stuff I know isn't true though
 
14574632:Farmville420 said:
You're still applying tension to the band if the goggles are under your helmet, i dont understand where you got that from but that doesnt even make sense, same with the foam padding thing, goggles sitting on your face also deforms the padding. Like applying a load will deform materials over time, doesn't matter if it is your face or the helmet they're resting on. Comfort is subjective so sure if you think it's more comfortable then whatever lol, the other stuff I know isn't true though

having your goggles over your helmet definitely stretches them out more than them being on your face, especially if you're keeping them up on your helmet a lot, which is what i do.
 
14574703:SteezyYeeter said:
having your goggles over your helmet definitely stretches them out more than them being on your face, especially if you're keeping them up on your helmet a lot, which is what i do.

Makes 0 sense loosen the band or something
 
14574632:Farmville420 said:
You're still applying tension to the band if the goggles are under your helmet, i dont understand where you got that from but that doesnt even make sense, same with the foam padding thing, goggles sitting on your face also deforms the padding. Like applying a load will deform materials over time, doesn't matter if it is your face or the helmet they're resting on. Comfort is subjective so sure if you think it's more comfortable then whatever lol, the other stuff I know isn't true though

The tension is not the same. When the goggles are pulled from the face and up onto the helmet the band is stretched beyond it's wearing position. Not to mention that keeping it there in the extended state also wears down the elasticity.

Dragging the foam padding over the plastic edge of your helmet causes it to wear down and deform early. They are shaped for the curvature of your head, not your helmet.

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14574725:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
The tension is not the same. When the goggles are pulled from the face and up onto the helmet the band is stretched beyond it's wearing position. Not to mention that keeping it there in the extended state also wears down the elasticity.

Dragging the foam padding over the plastic edge of your helmet causes it to wear down and deform early. They are shaped for the curvature of your head, not your helmet.

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The tension SHOULD be the same because the bands are adjustable, just loosen or tighten them???
 
You mean to say that goggle companies do not anticipate google wearers wearing goggles over their helmets and this stretches the bounds of their engineered purpose?

Wild ass take.

14574725:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
The tension is not the same. When the goggles are pulled from the face and up onto the helmet the band is stretched beyond it's wearing position. Not to mention that keeping it there in the extended state also wears down the elasticity.

Dragging the foam padding over the plastic edge of your helmet causes it to wear down and deform early. They are shaped for the curvature of your head, not your helmet.

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14574731:C.R.E.A.M said:
You mean to say that goggle companies do not anticipate google wearers wearing goggles over their helmets and this stretches the bounds of their engineered purpose?

Wild ass take.

He really stretching with that statement ?
 
14574726:Farmville420 said:
The tension SHOULD be the same because the bands are adjustable, just loosen or tighten them???
14574731:C.R.E.A.M said:
You mean to say that goggle companies do not anticipate google wearers wearing goggles over their helmets and this stretches the bounds of their engineered purpose?

Wild ass take.

No response to goggles over damaging the foam so I'll assume we agree on that.

As for the band damage, maybe I wasn't clear enough. Helmets are thick and go over your head. So to take your helmet off you first stretch the goggle band out beyond the helmet rim as you pull it away from your face. Then placing the goggle outward on top of your helmet you can take it off. As the goggle remains there, the band is being stretched beyond the "wearing position". This is where "goggle over" users damage the elasticity of their bands.

Wearing position is on the face, resting position is on the helmet. The distance is shown below.

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14574772:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
No response to goggles over damaging the foam so I'll assume we agree on that.

As for the band damage, maybe I wasn't clear enough. Helmets are thick and go over your head. So to take your helmet off you first stretch the goggle band out beyond the helmet rim as you pull it away from your face. Then placing the goggle outward on top of your helmet you can take it off. As the goggle remains there, the band is being stretched beyond the "wearing position". This is where "goggle over" users damage the elasticity of their bands.

Wearing position is on the face, resting position is on the helmet. The distance is shown below.

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The foam this is also a myth I responded to that in my first reply. I'll send you pics when I get home of goggs I wore under my helmet being more damaged than goggs I wear over, and I have a ton of videos to prove how I was wearing each pair too, trust me that isn't a reason the foam gets messed up. It's actually just use, they're pressed against your face wether you wear them over or under, your nose is just as solid as the plastic of a helmet, same with your cheekbones and forehead.

And yes, while your theory makes sense, it isn't true, because again as they lose their elasticity, you just tighten them... goggles are fitted so that they have to be completely loosened in order to fit over a helmet and as they deform over time (the same as wearing them under) you just adjust them.
 
14574725:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
The tension is not the same. When the goggles are pulled from the face and up onto the helmet the band is stretched beyond it's wearing position. Not to mention that keeping it there in the extended state also wears down the elasticity.

Dragging the foam padding over the plastic edge of your helmet causes it to wear down and deform early. They are shaped for the curvature of your head, not your helmet.

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i have had the same pair of smith i/ox since 2016 or 2017. i easily have over 500 days with them over them helmet and there is honestly minimal wear. i finally bought 4d mag goggles last week because they no longer make the iox and i snapped a clip on the band by shutting it in my car door (lol?). the foam is still well intact. maybe a bit scratchy compared to the new pair but overall wear and tear would take like 10 years to have an impacted. i could tell that towards the end, the elastic would slowly slip throughout the day. but i would leave them stretched on my helmet overnight (ill advised lol) and still overall they functioned well.

with the foam, i think the biggest reason why you don’t see wear as much around the nose is due to the band positioning having to be lower on the back of your head than when wearing a helmet so the pressure shifts to the forehead. at least for me it is that way. the foam doesnt even touch my my nose lol
 
14574782:partyandBS said:
i have had the same pair of smith i/ox since 2016 or 2017. i easily have over 500 days with them over them helmet and there is honestly minimal wear. i finally bought 4d mag goggles last week because they no longer make the iox and i snapped a clip on the band by shutting it in my car door (lol?). the foam is still well intact. maybe a bit scratchy compared to the new pair but overall wear and tear would take like 10 years to have an impacted. i could tell that towards the end, the elastic would slowly slip throughout the day. but i would leave them stretched on my helmet overnight (ill advised lol) and still overall they functioned well.

with the foam, i think the biggest reason why you don’t see wear as much around the nose is due to the band positioning having to be lower on the back of your head than when wearing a helmet so the pressure shifts to the forehead. at least for me it is that way. the foam doesnt even touch my my nose lol

My buddy has I think 2018/19 and he’s starting to worry since finding lens etc is getting really hard. He’s trying to hold off upgrading but it’s inevitable.
 
14574778:Farmville420 said:
The foam this is also a myth I responded to that in my first reply. I'll send you pics when I get home of goggs I wore under my helmet being more damaged than goggs I wear over, and I have a ton of videos to prove how I was wearing each pair too, trust me that isn't a reason the foam gets messed up. It's actually just use, they're pressed against your face wether you wear them over or under, your nose is just as solid as the plastic of a helmet, same with your cheekbones and forehead.

And yes, while your theory makes sense, it isn't true, because again as they lose their elasticity, you just tighten them... goggles are fitted so that they have to be completely loosened in order to fit over a helmet and as they deform over time (the same as wearing them under) you just adjust them.

Oh I see where you commented on the foam now.

Maybe we just agree to disagree. I have examples of "goggles over" and "goggles under" in the pics above and I'm not sure what further proof I can give. Goggles over shows excessive wear to the band and foam. The damage is unavoidable but you can slow it down by wearing them under your helmet.
 
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