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dbstar

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ive just got to rant. on god. God does exist, if you approach the subject using some logic it would be the only thing that is what makes sense. Now in me saying that god exists i am not in any way saying that there must be an afterlife, but it does i guess support the notion. The main reason that it is logical to beleive in god is that it is almost impossible that life is here by mistake. When you think it about, and really think about it ther had to be something that did create it all, i read something that put it in a very good context, imagine something as complex as mount rushmore. Do u think it is possible that the elements were simply a result of this very detailed sculpture, that these faces resulted simply from freak occurences, obviously not there was something that created it. Think about it. im not saying if their is a 'god' he gives to shits about people, i believe he does. One played out reason to beleive in god, but a very true and beleivable one when u think about it is life itself. Take a look at a rock then look at an animal, if all there ever was in the beggining was rock and such how would life be spawned, llogically there would have to be some sort of eternal life, scientists say that life could basically spawn over trillions of years from a rock from a single cell or something but that is still living. sorry for wasting ur time

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that my friend is know as the intelligent design theory

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were all gonna find out someday.

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have you ever jsut looked at your hands? Its like they have a life of their own... My hands picked up the paper, my hands sat in my lap. Theyre like my own little sidekicks.

 
intellegent design theory, cool never new that. and what are u talking about 'we will all know someday', not at all, if there is no afterlife, which is to say that when u die u cease to exist, and are 100% incoherent, u will know nothing, youy wont be thinking 'shit, no afterlife this sucks', u wont be thinking at all, and this brings about another rant, bast, the idea of eternal nothingness is what makes me sometimes seriously question my beliefs in an afterlife, not that the afterlife is some tool of hope, thats ridicoulous. Even when most people think of eternal nothingness they think of it in coherent terms, people during their lives feel eternal, while there is time when u did not exist there is still imagination to make up for it, u dont know of anything else than your own existence, and to think that some day this existence might cease is literally impossable to totally comprehend, it is impossable to comprehend that when u die humanity simply ceases to exist.

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oh ya one more thing, i dont really think eternal nothingness is all that depressing, first off i dont really beleive in it, second if it is the way it goes who the fuck cares, u wont once u die, so dont waste ur time being depressed about it, im sorry but it wont change anything. Third, if that is the reality, and u do chose to accept that like i did for a long time, it is almost like the ultimate peace, while their will no longer be any pleasure u will be totally free of everything because there will be nothing.

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on a side note I would say that the feeling of being dead is prolly a lot like the feeling you had before you were born. It's pointless to waste your sanity thinking about these things, for me anyway. I've thought about it long and hard and I kind of hope there isn't an afterlife because I will never know the difference. While if there is an afterlife I will most likely be judged (if the afterlife relfects that of popular christian beleif) and damned to hell somewhere in the process.

We pay our debt sometimes.
 
I'd like to re-say that mount rushmore was made by a dude with explosives and a chisel. If you thought that it was made because of natural elements, i will immediatly disregard your opinions for the rest of your NS career.

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I think he was getting at the whole 'it's too beautiful to have occured naturally' as are many other things found naturally in this world. Although he wasn't very clear in his analogy I think that was the point.

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david man, ya sorry if i wasnt clear, but ur not serous? as ice is scary said it was analogy, that something as complex of life could not simply have just happened, but rather created, cause as i hope u know mt. rushmore is rather complex to, and obvioulsy was not created via natural elements rather it had a creator

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I get what you're saying. but who said life( single cells) spawned from a rock?

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I think what he was saying about mount rushmore was that I wasn't a coincidence that those faces are there. They were put there by man. Created.

Now look at how much more complex human beings are. Mount Rushmore is relatively simple in comparison. If Mount Rushmore couldn't just happen through natural circumstances, how could something as complex as humankind come around naturaly?

Nevermind the fact that humans have a conscience and logical brains and all that. I don't know how a conscience could just come up out of nowhere.

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I agree, God does exist. However, here is why your argument is wrong. And use the search feature... type in 'Intelligent Design' and get the thread with that in its title. Anyways...

Paley's teleological argument, more aptly dubbed the argument from design, is essentially comprised of the premises that nature is complex and purposeful, and could not have been created save by an intelligent creator with a purpose. If we were, as Paley hypothetically puts it, to find a watch in the middle of the forest, would we say that it had come into being on its own? Given that it is a very intricate contraption, and is able (conveniently) to tell time, we would naturally assume that a watch-maker had constructed it. Similarly, Paley argues, a great variety of beings that exist are similarly complicated, and serve a purpose:, as do we: to please god. Just as no one would assume that a watch had been formed through natural processes, Paley argues, we must not make such an assumption about the universe, nor ourselves.

Unfortunately, this argument has a number of flaws. Firstly, any competent engineer understands that one of the most fundamental principles of design is that simplicity is preferable to complexity. The simplest functional method of doing something is always the best way. So, if we can detect in anything supposedly created by God any unnecessary overuse of materials, or anything that is tangled with complexity, we can infer that either the creator does not meet the criteria laid out for Godhood, or there is some alternate method of explaining the universe, other than its creation by an ultimate being.

The other aspect of Paley's argument, that creation has a distinct and discernible purpose, can be disproved soundly. If for some reason something which has supposedly been created by God exists in a form such that it is restricted in its purpose, and our theory of creation can provide no principled reason to support its being so, we must conclude that there is another explanation that does account for the state of this thing. In other words, if, given the argument that all things were created by God, we are left asking 'why are things assembled this way, when it is so obviously deficient', then we are correct to seek an alternative theory that would tell us why.

To add perspective, here is a hypothetical situation to counter Paley's. Suppose that you had a dog who, when asked simple arithmetic questions, would bark the answers correctly. You assume, based on this, that the dog has an understanding of mathematics. However, you note that the dog could (suspiciously) only answer correctly if his trainer knew the answers and was present; curiously enough, were any other individual to ask the sum of two small numbers, the dog would remain mute. The concept of the owner's presence is not connected to the concept of mathematics, and yet the dog's ability to solve problems relies on it. Given this, we must say that the dog has no knowledge of mathematics. It is not simply improbable that the dog knows arithmetic, it is conceptually preposterous given the circumstances. To apply this to the discussion at hand, were we to find an example in creation, (though the universe as a whole may on some level seem well conceived) of poor or wasteful design, we can conclude that creation is not intelligently designed, and there is no way of defining 'intelligent design' so that it would apply to creation.

In the interest of furthering these premises, it would be fitting to present several examples of markedly poor and wasteful design, that, had an omniscient creator made them, would be wantonly stupid in their conception. In many birds, the bones of the legs are hollow to facilitate easier flight, an incredibly efficient design that would seem to support Paley. However, why is the same design present in the Ostrich and the Emu, which are not only flightless birds, but depend on leg strength for their transportation? They too have many hollow bones*. There is incredible waste in all parts of nature; many animals' eggs (fish, for instance) are incredibly multitudinous, but few young survive. Of the thousands of acorns dropped from trees, only a few actually grow. Finally, it is an interesting fact of human anatomy that the eye, due to certain cells being in backwards, create a 'blind spot' present in many mammals. Despite this, the same problem does not exist in the Octopus and the squid, assumedly God's chosen creatures. There are hundreds, if not thousands of other examples of inefficient design, and it is because of this fact that we should doubt Paley's explanation as firm proof of God's existence.

We do not even require that any other theory be present in order to reject Paley; for there must simply be some alternative, whether or not we know what it is. To assume that there is simply one answer or another, the popular theories in this case being evolution and creation, would create a false dilemma. To prove one wrong does not immediately affirm the other. Another answer may exist, and we do not require knowledge of it to dismiss those currently under examination. So, despite the fact that it defeats the purpose of religion and leaves us in the dark asking 'why?', the dismissal of Paley's argument from design is the most logical conclusion to its examination.

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'The Babel fish,' said The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy quietly, 'is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy not from its carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.

'Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindboggingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

'The argument goes something like this: `I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'

'`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'

'`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

'`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

'Meanwhile, the poor Babel Fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.'

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

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Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
quite a paragraph you got there. I started reading it but I got tired because I'm falling asleep and my eyes keep losing focus. I'll read it tomorrow

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wow JD, that was a bit long. and dbstar, I was just making sure.

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Oh... I thought you meant real anti-freeze, I was like 'Jesus man, you must be a drinking god to still be alive.' -skierman

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It's actually a full essay I wrote for a metaphysical philosophy course. I left out the notion that the argument also allows (and probably encourages) the idea of polytheism, which kinda throws a wrench in its usability as a 'Christian' argument. Anyways, I posted it in the other thread, too, so dig that one up. The debate raged for pages afterwards, too.

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In a haze

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I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

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And I’ll take my time

Here I am

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Always...
 
Well written, I too sometimes wonder what the purpose of certain 'extras' that don't really fit in with intellgent design. Whenever I talk about this with religious friends they always pull the 'It's beyond us' card, which throughly pisses me off everytime. Who knows what to think, I do sometimes wonder why a all-powerful, all-knowing,truely benevolent god would allow half the things that go on in this world to. Also why would an all-powerful god need us to worship and love him if he is all powerful he wouldn't need love and if he did could instantly manifest it for himself. It's just seems as if none of the pieces really fit.

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I'll read that later. Whose to say that our creater even has a concioussness, that is to say, thinks and purposefully acts...what if its just energy...for everything contains it on a molecular level. A collective source that has laws or principals...however unfathomable that merely IS...yyyyyyyyyeaaaaaah...

STARMAN DIED IN VAIN!!! 'Eat the poor'
 
Religious philosophers (those who seek to prove God's existence, or at least repudiate anti-God arguments) are dead-set against the 'It's beyond us' claim, as it is self defeating. If it can be conceptually proven that something is logically impossible/incorrect, then there is no answer of 'It's beyond us available', as there is not in this case. I realize the dog example was a bit odd in retrospect. It's like this:

Theory: Because dog barks correct answers, dog knows math.

BUT: In practice, Dog does know math under certain circumstances, but not others. The circumstances have no relation to math knowledge, as the theory has been shown to be inconsistent.

Conclusion: Dog does not necessarily know math.

SIMILARLY:

Theory: Because everything is complex and purposeful, it must have been created.

BUT: In practice, Things are purposeful in some instances, but not others. The difference between these is unimportant, since the theory has already been proved inconsistent.

Conclusion: Things are not necessarily purposeful.

Simplified version.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
jd ive started to read the paragraph but im to damn tired to spend the time needed to analyze it properly and respond properly, and it seems that will take a decent amount of time, very intresting though.

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god doesnt even exist. we dont even exist. we are just satans dream

My time is winding down.............just wait for it
 
if god created us, who created god? does god have a god or a creator? and if he does, then where did it all start?

-Thom Savery

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'I hope you get hit by a neon'

'just make sure all the Jewish kids have rides'

 
''I'll read that later. Whose to say that our creater even has a concioussness, that is to say, thinks and purposefully acts...''

The Intelligent Design theory relies on the concept of an intelligent designer, rather than some force which constructs things at random. I would have thought that was obvious, but perhaps not.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
Apple: Aquinas would argue that a God-force must exist independently from time, and uses this as the groundwork for his proof of God's existence (well, one of 'em). It's far too complicated for me to bother typing out. Plus I'd have to find my phil textbook again... and ...yeah, right.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
i can go with the notion that there is no god. no creator. it was a random splitting of a hydrogen atom from another universe. over billions of years the hydrogen atom bonded and sperated, changed and evolved. we are not alone in the universe, we are not unique. we came from this existance.

if there was intelligent design, did it know what we would do to ourselves?

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Well written essay JD. It is a valid observation that nothing is flawless. One thing that does appear to me is that the structure of everything physical has some sort of balance or symmetry.

Everything is composed of same essential building blocks that combine to create more complex and sophisticated things. This includes every level, from molecules, to atoms, to organisms and objects. They are all ultimately composed of the same matter that makes of everything. Their can be minor differences here and there, but they are all essentially uniform.

With the thought in mind that all things come from the same building blocks, it relates back to your example of engineering: 'the most fundamental principles of design is that simplicity is preferable to complexity'. Simplicity often goes hand in hand with practicality. It is with simplicity that things can be applied and combined to make things of a higher complexity, yet the 'basics' still remain in place. The ultimate simplicity of everything can be applied to the theory that everything has some kind of balance.

Going back to a balance, and the arguments of 'poor and wasteful design.' This could be that balance at work. Every creature and object is not without its flaw. This could be the balance that 'levels the playing field' of nature. With every action, there is effect, that notion in itself maintains balance.

Could the universe be of preconceived design? Perhaps. Their is the argument that if the entire composition of everything is ultimately basic parts, creation of all could have been a fluke. However, if those basic parts can create such complex things, it could very well be of intelligent design. The answer to this question of why everything exists is probably beyond the comprehension of any human being. There is still so little that is known about existence that it may never be answered, very possible actually.

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it is kind of difficult to argue the existence of god when you base it on human principles such as time, simply said, god would not have a creator for he is the creator, for god their would be no beggining and no end, nearly impossable to understand, i think when people discuss the idea of a god they are minds are far to 'in the box'. When people talk about god i dont think they understand the terms on which someone like me beleives in god, apple you sound like your saying god is some sort king, like a person who must be born, and the person who gave birth to that must be born. But in my mind the god i beleive in is powerful beyond the capacity of the human mind to understand, time, matter, existence all created by one god, one eternal source of enrgy where the constraints of time do not exist, either do the phyical realities of our world, that sort of how i picture god. Alright that was probably some serious crazy talk there im so tired, i dont even know if that made sense but wtv, i have so much to say about god and my beleifs but i want them to make sense so im going to stop now

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i said i was gonna go, but i just read boards little thread and have to say one more thing. All that stuff u said about hydrogen and such, is impossible. Some fo the smartest scientific minds have been exploring this for a very long time, and based on our knowledge of the universe, which by the way contrary to popular belief is VERY impressive, there is no way that this energy and atoms could evolve into something with enough 'life' to biologically evolve to what we are now, it is impossible. One of the greatest scientific mysteries ever is what sparked evolution. And just top be a devil's advocate, Darwins theory of evolution is still actually just a theory, not fact.

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in an astronomy class i took called 'life in the universe', we studied the circumstances required for life to exist, and anyways, many people believe that life on our planet may not have originated here. people have found meteorites on our planet that are rediculously old, way older than previous discoveries. im talking like 5 billion years old (approx...i took the class like a year ago or so) so anyways, these meteorites have evidence of bacterial organisms on them. and there's a pretty good chance that mars used to sustain life, along with a few other moons in our solar system. so something might have hit one of these other planets or moons, and knocked chunks of it out into space. this could've then gotten pulled into earth's gravity. when i heard this, i assumed that it would get hot enough to sterilize anything on it, but somebody has done studies and discovered that it's possible for the core of one of these meteorites to maintain a reasonable temp. all in all, our earliest forms of life may (i'm not saying they did, but there's a chance) have come from another planet, possibly never even discovered by us yet. so maybe this god you're talking about comes from another planet, and never meant for this planet to have life.

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''Going back to a balance, and the arguments of 'poor and wasteful design.' This could be that balance at work. Every creature and object is not without its flaw. This could be the balance that 'levels the playing field' of nature. With every action, there is effect, that notion in itself maintains balance. ''

Are you suggesting, then, that because beings have good qualities, they must also have flaws in order to 'balance' these? Because I'd have to ask, why? Why couldn't the creator have simplified things (as a good engineer should) by simply not giving them so many 'good' qualities? The end sum would be the same. It seems a needless complication.

If, instead, you're arguing that we need flaw to exist as a means of contrast ('good cannot exist without bad' argument), that too is logically incoherent, but it would take too long to type out why, and it's confusing. However, even accepting your argument (if it is as I've characterized it), the necessity of the existence some idea of 'flaw' does not logically preclude the idea that things must be poorly designed. It would, rather, necessitate a small proportion of 'flawedness', just for contrast to exist.

Finally, your entire argument is bunk because based on an equivocation. The argument is not rooted in the 'flaws' of things, but rather their excessive design. Had the ostrich merely been designed without the capability of flight, this would have been a flaw. However, it was overdesigned with hollow leg bones, which is not a flaw, but a useless complication. These pointless complications are the real issues, not flaws. Hope that makes sense.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
To clarify, what I said was not so much a statement, but rather thinking allowed. I apologize if I left anyone scratching their heads.

Naturally its all theory dbstar. However, one may argue that we still know little and that we can't truly draw a line between simple of complex, basic or advanced, designed or random. I'm not suggesting anything, but our knowledge could (or rather is) the tip of the iceberg. As I said it is extremely likely that what spawned existence is beyond human comprehension, intelligent design or not. I honestly have not dwelled on this very much. My current conclusion is that it is possible either way.

And to address JD, I'm admitting I may be getting over my head in the subject, but I'll continue to think allowed. Flaws could have a dependency of the condition or surrounding environment, if you will. It is obvious that 'good' and 'bad' exist. Nature however has its way of thinking out flaws, natural selection for example. If the flaw is to great, it fades away in one way or another. The useless flaw, like the ostrich bones, are likely a transitional part of adaptation and evolution. I may not be of use now, but it could have been in the past, or the future for that matter. Adaptation and evolution makes thing even more complex. Is constant change part of a master plan? It drags in variables and it would take me forever to comprehend and explain it. Nothing at an advanced level is precisely the same. If it was, wouldn't objects/enviroments be much more uniform in design, and never change? You are making sense to me JD, but I fear I may be not to you. My apologies for my somewhat inconclusive rambling.

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-asac

RTHARTS IT MY WASTRTD ASS IS FOGOINF TO SLEEEPm FUCK ALL YOUl ... wuinny is apussy but i need skeep so fuck this.

-J.D._May

A closed mouth gathers no feet.

-proverb

Proud member of the d-loc fanclub
 
2 things... I actually called you a pussy? Really? ...Could you tell me why, exactly? I can't remember...

Secondly, you make some sense, but from the sounds of things, you're making a better case for Darwinism than ID. The notion that something isn't useful now but may have been in the past suggests that in the past, the 'Ostrich' of the past was a different creature which needed such structures (meaning, probably, that it was able to fly). Unless the species were to change (as you say), there is no conceivable use for such a design feature. And of course, that's just one example... it might be even more difficult, for example, to explain why some species of whales need pelvic bone systems. Can't see THAT coming in handy...

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
The first thing, you called me that that one night you were on NS piss-drunk. Its in the 'GW: I'm lazy' thread. I thought your drunken posts were rather humorous and sig worthy.

The second thing. I honestly don't know what persuasion of argument I am taking. There are some things that point to different explanations. At the moment, I'm just trying to grasp 'what is' rather than 'what could be.'

Anyway, its late and I have a political science final tomorrow. I can add more if this discussion continues. I'm out.

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-asac

RTHARTS IT MY WASTRTD ASS IS FOGOINF TO SLEEEPm FUCK ALL YOUl ... wuinny is apussy but i need skeep so fuck this.

-J.D._May

A closed mouth gathers no feet.

-proverb

Proud member of the d-loc fanclub
 
god definately exists.....hands down

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God exists in this definition and this definition only: The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

If you look at god as the omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, your lost.

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tell me, how many of ya wanna know what its like to be cut by the tip of my butterfly knife?
 
the way i see it god only exists because we created him. He exists in out minds as a cultural memory. There is no entity who created everything. Just us. If there was only one god to creat everything, why is it just christians who belive in him? why did the egyptians have so many gods, and the mayans, and the greeks? non of them the same. Their gods were just their society's creation. When you read the Iliad you notice the the gods act alot like the hero's in the storys. Fighting eachother and takeing mistresses. They do this because the hero's in greek society did this. The god's behavious is a projection of the hero's behaviour into something more devin which they could use to explain the unexplainable. Man creates god, its not the otherway around.

-Thom Savery

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--->CCR*

'I hope you get hit by a neon'

'just make sure all the Jewish kids have rides'

 
thats a pretty confident statment on an improvable subject.

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
This is the stupidest subject ever. There is no god, if you really think about it, and think in the sense that everything has evolved from something small at one point, and we just happen to have the right climate for a certain evolution..

- Sasha

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^ WERD

- Sasha

Did you like it? Did it sound kinda hot...

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'Does your mom have a unibrow?'

'What was the guy.. WOAH.. when you press on your throat when you're talking it makes it sounds funny. Neat!'

'Wouldn't it be funny if a guy had like a 20 dollar bill, and went to the cafeteria and bought 20 dollars worth of 25 cent slushies... but then only drank one!'

'Teeter tooter...'
 
if there is no god, then why are we even having this discussion?

-Thom Savery

please pardon the cacography

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'I hope you get hit by a neon'

'just make sure all the Jewish kids have rides'

 
^ We are having this discussion because there are some dumb fucks on this site who think god is real.. that's why.

- Sasha

Did you like it? Did it sound kinda hot...

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'Does your mom have a unibrow?'

'What was the guy.. WOAH.. when you press on your throat when you're talking it makes it sounds funny. Neat!'

'Wouldn't it be funny if a guy had like a 20 dollar bill, and went to the cafeteria and bought 20 dollars worth of 25 cent slushies... but then only drank one!'

'Teeter tooter...'
 
because he is a contruct of the human mind. And we have evolved into a species that has self recognition.

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and heres my question to the strict secular evolutionists:

i understand natural selection, and mutation. i dont, however, understand how life can come from inanimate particles. how, all of a sudden, did an inanimate object spontaneously animate? ive never heard an answer, satisfactory or otherwise to this question.

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
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