God....?

bigskia

bigskia

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I'm not anti-christian nor do i believe there is a god but some people i know had a huge debate about this and i want to now what people think. It's said that god is everywhere, past,present and future. In the event he's in the future he most know what is going to happen before it does. So does free will exist to the human world? Not sure if this makes sense but i'm just rambling. if any one else has questions/topics like this feel free to post them.

BACON (receiving a monstrous, leafy cocktail)

What's that?

SAMOAN JO

A cocktail, you asked for a cocktail.

BACON

No, I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a

fucking rainforest; you could fall in love with an orang-atang in that.

Shut up phrosty - The rest of the world percieves the average american to be dumb, stupid and a redneck because of that exact attitude – Schlonigator

 
read topic....you rang?

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god is non-existant. if there was anything controling our lives and shit there would be more than one of whatever it was. however I don't think there is any such thing

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...now the ski/snow god is definatly in existence ... and the bible is jstu a bunch of writings drunk sheep hearders wrote down that they decidided to worship cuz they didnt like the egypts praying to cats

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- I wish i was known for my ability to bounce like a fuzzy tennis ball
 
i think you are confused, the bible is true although its the mormon bible that is just a bunch of writing written down 50 yrs ago by a bunch of hammered mexicans.

fuk that
 
god gave us free will, i believe each choice we make in life leads to other choices, its like those choose your own adventure books

Gotta Love The Midwest
 
there was a really good post about this some months ago

*Proud Member of the HoBum Posse

Viva la Resistance!

'wow, you can ski backwards on those things?!'
 
who cares? i think god exists but religion fucked it all up

Sahid: I know how it is

Sahid: you country bumpkin people don't have much going on...lets not lie

Then I said...: no that is true

Then I said...: we just stick to bumpkining
 
there is like a 6 page thread on this already... search the forum for it.

-Andy

I am God... Please feel free to take a number, I'll be right with you.

 
thanks andy...

any responses to the actual question

BACON (receiving a monstrous, leafy cocktail)

What's that?

SAMOAN JO

A cocktail, you asked for a cocktail.

BACON

No, I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a

fucking rainforest; you could fall in love with an orang-atang in that.

Shut up phrosty - The rest of the world percieves the average american to be dumb, stupid and a redneck because of that exact attitude – Schlonigator

 
skimonkey -> how can life be predestined, if karma is true? (the vice versa could also be said)

 
'if there were no god, it would be necessary for man to invent him' - voltaire

George Orwell believed that 'god is just a tool of government to keep there people in order'

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mm, they're really good. so tender and fresh and...yeah the cookies are good too, lol -petek on the topic of Girlscout cookies

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And George Orwell believed a lot of strange things.

I believe in God and the bible for sure, and yes there is a great thread about this not too far back, go check it out.

Yes, God is in the future and the past and the present. I belive that God knows exactly what you're going to do in your life. That is not pre-destiny because he knows what's going to happen. He's not making it happen for you. You have to make all the choices in your life, God doesn't make them for you, he may help you in the right direction but he's not making the decisions for you. He merely knows what choice you're going to make before you even start thinking about it. That's not pre-destiny, it's prior knowledge.

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

#Cut the Jibba Jabba Crazy Fools! Start Skiing!#

*Be greatful, everyday, for snow, mountains, gravity and skiing*

@Talent Is Important, But Image Is God!@

%Jesus Is My Homeboy%
 
as maynard said, 'we must know where we come from,to know where we are going'

friend: You want a piece of garlic bread?

me: no thanks,im not a vampire.
 
Believe what you want, but I believe that God exists and I believe in the Bible. I even believe in the 'Mormon Bible'. Say what you want about Mormons, but look who was smart enough to settle in Utah.

 
more like who got the shaft and had to settle in Utah because no one wanted them. but yeah mormons can be cool i just had to say that.

If God can do anything, can he make a boulder too heavy for him to lift?

BACON (receiving a monstrous, leafy cocktail)

What's that?

SAMOAN JO

A cocktail, you asked for a cocktail.

BACON

No, I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a

fucking rainforest; you could fall in love with an orang-atang in that.

Shut up phrosty - The rest of the world percieves the average american to be dumb, stupid and a redneck because of that exact attitude – Schlonigator

 
joe in orgazmo was a mormon,and he was a pornstar

friend: You want a piece of garlic bread?

me: no thanks,im not a vampire.
 
how many chicks did he do in it? eight, nine oh wait that's how many wifes they can have

BACON (receiving a monstrous, leafy cocktail)

What's that?

SAMOAN JO

A cocktail, you asked for a cocktail.

BACON

No, I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a

fucking rainforest; you could fall in love with an orang-atang in that.

Shut up phrosty - The rest of the world percieves the average american to be dumb, stupid and a redneck because of that exact attitude – Schlonigator

 
i believe in karma - i think everything will always end up in an equilibrium. that's what makes people think twice about doing bad things.

 
I started the other thread.....big mistake. TAK even warned me about it. I now know why, and now I pass that warning on to you- don't post again after this! Nothing will be solved or come from it, and people will just get super pissed. Even if you're just asking 'opinions', it will turn into an argument.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
God is real I believe, but after taking a class at college called 'the bible' i have come to the realization that the bible is a piece of horseshit.

Taste Death. Live Life.
 
I don't believe in god but I don't see why people are afraid of doing so it's stupid your opinion is your freewill not something to be destined by whats cool. I do believe in karma though and I do believe Jesus existed and He was a great man though I dont believe he's who he said he was

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well in bible in the noah's arc story, god kills all the people who sin. so obviously we aren't free if he's going to kill us for sinning.

you can't touch me, nobody has that right.

NS Ogre Crew
 
no god, no afterlife, biology, we're just dead

anyway there are a couple threads on this

one is simply GOD

the other one is like god isn't real

and then look around the evolution threads... all this crap has been rehashed for over a year

 
he's refering to it on this site

BACON (receiving a monstrous, leafy cocktail)

What's that?

SAMOAN JO

A cocktail, you asked for a cocktail.

BACON

No, I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a

fucking rainforest; you could fall in love with an orang-atang in that.

Shut up phrosty - The rest of the world percieves the average american to be dumb, stupid and a redneck because of that exact attitude – Schlonigator

 
I know, it just seems like he shouldn't be surprised that people can keep talking about the same subject on the site for a year, when people have been talking about since who knows when.

 
yeah i see what your saying.

BACON (receiving a monstrous, leafy cocktail)

What's that?

SAMOAN JO

A cocktail, you asked for a cocktail.

BACON

No, I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a

fucking rainforest; you could fall in love with an orang-atang in that.

Shut up phrosty - The rest of the world percieves the average american to be dumb, stupid and a redneck because of that exact attitude – Schlonigator

 
I don't believe in God in the traditional sense, but I believe in something that brings people together and links us, and has a sense similar to karma

 
The only reason there is god and religion is because people die. If no one died than people wouldent give a fuck about god or anything- Ben Harper

Timbo Jones isnt even my real name.
 
you should never use orwell as a supporting argument for what your saying...he contradicted himself all the time...read the new yorker article about him

Sahid: I know how it is

Sahid: you country bumpkin people don't have much going on...lets not lie

Then I said...: no that is true

Then I said...: we just stick to bumpkining
 
Just a note on ''Fate'', from Sun Tzu; Fate is based on your true desire.

So do I belive in fate? Yes. Am I free? Only from external influences.

And no, I do not ''Belive'' in ''God'', but that doesn't mean that I'm not ''Spirtiual''.

 
gravitybytes: It's called skiing bro

Caden: No one ever said we were free, what are you talking about? Freedom isn't the absence of war, it's the presence of justice and there sure as hell ain't much of that. Noah's ark has butt all nothing to do with freedom.

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

#Cut the Jibba Jabba Crazy Fools! Start Skiing!#

*Be greatful, everyday, for snow, mountains, gravity and skiing*

@Talent Is Important, But Image Is God!@

%Jesus Is My Homeboy%
 
According to Nietschze, all that can happen has happenned or will happen. That means that there is free will, but only to a certain extent; the time at which you do something is different, but what you do will be the same. Essentially, that means that you can't control what you do, only when you do it. To me, that's not free will.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
I'm pretty sure that concept is called eternal return.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
Yes, but that's just too abstract too be relivant to anything. Do something you like, and then say 'this isn't nearly as fun as the first time I did it; that fact that its been done negates its importantance, which negates the sensation of experience.' Eh? The reason why experience is so important is because memory is so unsatisfactory. And if an experience has been experienced by someone other than yourself, then for all intents and purposes, it has not been experienced; that is to say that the sensation cannot be felt by yourself if it was someone else who had it. So, yeah, free will indeed.

Does that make any sense?

 
Skis_to_the_s... has the best way of explaining mi sityation

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an american's biggest fear is being fooled by a cheap immatations
 
Skis_to_the_s... has the best yaw of explaining ym take on it... although I would like to add in that I think religion is crap. think about it;

there is a invisable man living in the sky looking down on you and seeing if you do anything bad, and if you do anything bad he puts you in a horrible place with fire, yet he loves you.

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an american's biggest fear is being fooled by a cheap immatations
 
I beleve in what TAK said about spirituality also

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an american's biggest fear is being fooled by a cheap immatations
 
Yeah, I know, I was just trying to sound smart by quoting Nietschze. Personally, I think most philosophy done by So-crates and Plato is self-aggrandizing crap, but that's my opinion. The only theory of metaphysics I agree with is naturalism, which allows for entire free will, and for the full independent thought of the human mind. It seems to me that there are too many confounding variables in the universe to allow for fate or predestination.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
a few things

1. i like how this is going. it's nice no one is being dumb and talking about the crusades adn that shit. because that is irrelevant to god. sure they did wrong stuff but that's only the followers. you could argue that because they're under god's rule it's his fault but then you'd have to argue the same thing about oklahoma city bombing

2. if god does exist why doesn't he reveal himself? yes he wants to test faith but he also wants worshippers and to overpower the devil. thus if he made a huge sign there would be less sin and everyone would believe in him

BACON (receiving a monstrous, leafy cocktail)

What's that?

SAMOAN JO

A cocktail, you asked for a cocktail.

BACON

No, I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a

fucking rainforest; you could fall in love with an orang-atang in that.

Shut up phrosty - The rest of the world percieves the average american to be dumb, stupid and a redneck because of that exact attitude – Schlonigator

 
i could experience something, and immediately after having the experience, not be sure whether or not i actually experienced what i think i did. an experience is only as good as its memory, so what is experience, but a reflection of memory? if memory and imagination exist in the lack of experience, memory is then the cause and function of all experience.

 
bigskia. God doesn't reveal himself because that would defeat the whole idea of the Christian faith. The deal with it is that you are all here on earth to make your own choice. God gives you the choice to follow or not. You decide to live for him and by his ways or you decide not to. If God revealed himself there would be no choice, no decision. Because you would see him and wouldn't be able to doubt or question his existance.

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

#Cut the Jibba Jabba Crazy Fools! Start Skiing!#

*Be greatful, everyday, for snow, mountains, gravity and skiing*

@Talent Is Important, But Image Is God!@

%Jesus Is My Homeboy%
 
i believe in god and in the bible. i may be getting a little deep w/ this, but i believe that god does reveal himself to us. we may notice it or we may overlook it, but he reveals himself in others to us.

 
Tim... you would still have a choice. It's the same idea as following the leader of your country. There isn't a rule that you must follow your creator, even if you know he exists.

Freezy... please append to your statement 'to me' or else prove it, thank you.

 
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