God you say? This thread is worth a look.

siversex

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I

think most of you are missing the real question here. God is mentioned-and the

first thing you think about is a christian god, or a buddhist or islamic god or

whatever. This is a distraction.

Forgetting religion and

perceived notions about "god", the real question is

why do we exist? why

does the universe exist? why is there something instead of nothing?


i mean shit, ask

yourself this and tell me what you come up with. The very fact that we exist

and the universe exists shows that there is an explanation for existence. the

best explanation humans can come up with is god, or something approximating

god. There must have been sentience that created everything. because without a

sentience creating it all, there is no reason for the universe to exist. big

bang: how can rocks come into existence by themselves? how can anything exist

at all without a sentience behind it? without a sentience there would just as

soon be nothing. why the hell is there

something instead of nothing?




your first question to

this might be, "well then who created god?" I would say that you're

thinking too inside the box about the nature of its existence. This sentience

is most likely not bound by time and lies behind the universe.

However i think no human can begin to comprehend what it’s really like. Also

this question does nothing to nullify the only plausible explanation of

existence (if you know another plausible explanation post it up).



sidenote: I just thought

of another explanation for existence, lol

hear me out: we humans and all life (and maybe all matter) are all part of this

greater sentience, of god and we (our "life force?" our

"souls?") willed the universe into existence. However this seems a

bit too simple. And there must be a scientific explanation for souls.



If you look at the grand

timescale of things, sentient human beings have very very very recently evolved

from animals. Therefore we still retain many animalistic characteristics.

Examples of our animalistic characteristics are things such as the crusades,

sexual relations especially, and a lot of the shit on mtv. Humans come from

primates whose intelligence was completely social based- knowing who had what

power, who was the alpha male, when to form allies or to defeat enemies so that

you were in the best social standing to fuck the most or best females. Its always

been about sex. If you look at the mtv show ‘rivals’ and ‘real life’ ( I think that’s

what its called) or go to any high school party it’s the same shit that our

monkey ancestors did millions of years ago. If you know what to look for you’ll

be surprised how totally animalistic it is. Our animal traits have been a good

thing, a very good thing, because they’re what continued evolution and made

sure the best genes got passed on. Now however evolution is stagnant because

every human can easily survive and we have populated the world over.



Our close nature to

animals shows that we are also still very stupid. There is so much opportunity

for our intelligence to improve. This is why with our current knowledge any

attempt to explain god is pointless. Every single religion out there fails to

factually explain the nature of god’s existence. They’re not even facing the

shooting range. However I also do believe that religion does a very good job of explaining his existence spiritually-

that there is something out there and you can believe in it. The details of

each religion are what make them more profound and enjoyable.





Now I am going to get

progressive extremist here so be warned:

Because there is so much

room for humans to improve I think the next step in our existence is to leave

the animalistic traits behind and take evolution into our own hands. I am

talking about genetic engineering and conscious breeding. By conscious breeding

I mean that we should start pairing up the reproductive juices of exceptional

humans to make even more exceptional humans. Of course this should be done very

selectively and everyone else should go about love as usual because as time has

shown the regular method of courtship is very effective. Genetic engineering is

self explanatory: manipulate genes so that humans are smarter and more adaptable

to more situations and environments.



A side effect of this

that is forseeable in the future is the splitting off of humans into a “high”

race and a “low” race (smarter and dumber).

The low race will most likely fuss about being getting less of the pie,

but straight up that’s just evolution in progress. The same exact thing

happened to the Neanderthals many years ago- they were ousted by a better

species.



Anyway this would all be

very good for us in the end because smarter humans will be able to understand

the universe much much better and will most likely not fight among each othe and will greatly increase the chances of

continued human survival- like populating other planets and shit.



Lolol I just went from

why god exists to how humans will be able to continue to survive.



Anyway to connect it

back up smarter and smarter humans will be closer to explaining why we exist

and how everything came into existence and what god is. This is the most

important thing that we can do.



TL:DR: it would be

impossible to sum that shit up in one sentence so just read it buddy
 
Repost of the same past 7 threads on some sort of religious battle.
Accept people for who they are, not who they believe in.
 
tl;dr... skimmed it, nothing overly progressive or interesting there.

The entire concept of looking for meaning in existence is a human trait. There is no 'why?' without us.
 
i like this and would reply but i gota be at work in 4 minutes and it takes 10 minutes to get there so g2g
 
Just a thought: If God doesn't have to be bounded by time or a beginning, why does whatever quantum soup that our universe supposedly arose from have to be when time itself is A) Subject to the observer and B) Only specific to this universe and the perception of it?
 
It doesn't. People who make that argument for the existence of god are idiots and should be ignored, just like everyone else who tries to argue that god exists.
 
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