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all right i dont want to hear this bullshit.... i know what u are all going to say "go to a boot fitter and try them on" which im going to do! but i want to know what u guys are riding??? how you like them??? and suggestions on what boots i should look at???... Last year i skied in a pair of SPK Kaos that were fitted tooooooo big which gave me a shit load of shin bang!!! i liked how they fit but should i get a new pair of spks or a totally different boot... I really dont want to spend another season with fucked up shins and u cant really tell in the shop when u try them on if they are going to give your shins a hard time.... sorry i wrote sooo much but i really need some advice thanks +KARMA....
 
If spk's fit him, chances are kryptons are going to take alot of work. I'm sorry to say exactly what you didn't want, but our information is useless unless we see your foot. In which case it's still going to be useless because most of us aren't bootfitters(me included).

So you're going to have to go see a... wait for it... Bootfitter.

Or at least try them on. What other people wear won't help you unless they post pics or some shit and they have the same feet as you.
 
alot of people here ride spk's, dalbello kryptons, tecnica agents & recently full tilts. all of them fit totally different so go to a boot fitter and try them out.
 
What he means is that they have a 98mm last, th SPK has a 106mm last, if you fit into spk, the the kryptons are going to be too narrow, which is why you need to go try on the different boots
 
it varies, the rampages are pretty soft, whereas the cross's and IL Moro's are more of a medium-stiff flex. the pros will be a much stiffer boot.
 
Well if you don't want to hear the whole 'see a bootfitter' thing..a couple of models:

With a narrow foot check out Dalbello Kryptons or Full Tilts

Medium width i'd look at Nordica Supercharger Ignitions

Wide foot yeah i guess check out SPKs, Heads also make some fairly wide fitting boots

As you already know..it's almost impossible to recommend anything without knowing whats going on with your feet.
 
I have a flat. Narrow, somewhat longish foot.

Im in nordica speedmachine8s

stiff enough to charge on. soft enough that you dont die in the park. flex of 100.
 
good thing with speedmachines is that if the 8's or 10's are too soft, 12s and 14's will give the added stiffness without compromising fit

I love those boots -just a tad narrow for me which is why i'm in the speedmachine/beast shell
 
hahaha i have a hella narrow foot. so they fit me fine. the hardest thing i have is the footbed, because my feet have literally like zero arch.
 
i have head mojos, i like the fit alot but theyre just slightly too stiff...like switch landings are a bit rough sometimes
 
I ride in original Rossi Freeride XX, just can't bring myself to get rid of them, If your foot fits the SpK I would probably recommend the new rossi bandit Sensor 3 it is a little bit wider than the krypton, but since I'm a bootfitter I have to say it, BUY WHAT FITS YOUR FOOT BEST!!!! If you get shin bang take it back to the bootfitter and they can fix it no problem.
 
Hey, here's an idea: someone should make a thread that explains all about boots, how they should fit and so on. It could even be a sticky thread at the top of the forum...
 
well if you have a narrow foot and need a 98 last lange banshee pros, infernos, fischer x-120, dalbello proton 14's or kryptons however if you have a bony ankle the trufit liner in like the rampage or kross will pack out and give you shell burn, so u'll want to get id liners, i have the gold in my il's and rampages and love them. now if you are medium width like need a 101 last you can look in to the fischer x-100 (100 last), dalbello protons 12,10, and 8, and alpina vectors.
 
you're asking a pretty broad audience, some people will like stiffer boots with more performance, some will like boots with a really soft feel, a generic member may instantly recommend a Spk or a soft freestyle boot, but you could want something else. It makes sense to limit boots to your specific style of skiing, consider your options, and see what is going to fit your foot best.
 
ya im really thinking about gettin the Full Tilt booter or hot dogger and one have these???and is there any difference besides the flex???
 
pretty sure the booter is lighter and the liner is thinner, but the hot dogger is more durable and more expensive. personally, i dont think it matters much. but id go with the hd out the box cuz it has a firmer flex. however, u still can change the tongue, but thats not cheap
 
yeah just go to ur local store and check out some dalbello boots ,...ooooor just tell the guy what kinda skiing ull be doing and theyll usually point you in the right direction
 
Alright I am a Master Boot fitter and make my living helping people answer this question. What boot should I have if I blank (blank being the type of skiing one is doing). The boot you should have is simply the boot that fits your foot and lower leg shape the best. The best being comfort and intended application. That being said if you are skiing park or are a freerider you should have a few features on your boot that will help you ski more comfortably and limit skier fatigue. These two features being of most importance.

HAVING THE CORRECT SIZE BOOT ! Without it these two things and nothing else in the world will help you.

#1 A Shock Reduction Foot Board also commonly called a Zeppa board. It does simply what you would think it helps reduce impact and shock to the skier after an impact (i.e. landing, knuckle, rails, flats, drops.). Many Freeride and Park boots have such feature.

#2 A very important feature that is often under utilized the strap on the upper cuff. It is called many different things depending on the manufacture but typically you will hear it called a power strap or Booster strap. Booster is an actually company that makes aftermarket straps that you can install on any boot Booster straps actually have elasticity that pulls the (front) upper cuff toward your shin. (All Nordica park and freeride boots in their Supercharger model line have authentic "Booster Straps")

Those two features are paramount to having a good Park or Freeride boot. Those same two features also will greatly help reduce "Shin bang" or the medical injury caused by such repeated syndrome Shin splints.

Sometimes you can have all these things and a proper fitting boot and still have the Shin problems persist. You can eliminate Shin issues with two techniques guarantied after the problem has been properly diagnosed by a good boot fitter.

#1 A custom foot bed, which supports your foot and aids your body’s suspension system. (foot, the important part of the foot the "arch" and your legs and hips.) A foot bed will correct your feet and in turn your entire body to the most neutral (comfortable or "sweet spot") position inside the boot. IT IS ALSO THE ONLY PRODUCT YOU CAN BUY TO MAKE YOU A BETTER SKIER (other than a lesson) NO MATTER THE TYPE OF SKIING YOU DO.

#2 REST!! Shin splints once you have them get much much worse with repeated activity (i.e. Skiing) The only way to "fix it" is to heal and that might be a week or a month. Ice is your best friend. If you keep skiing you could develop stress fractures on your shins.

Some people will tell you "shin splints are fractures" but they are dumb. Shin splint pain is caused by the tearing of muscle away from the bone or tearing or the muscle itself.

I hope this helps.

Trust me I know what I am talking about.

Feel Free to message me or whatever with questions.

Also when you buy new boots tell your boot fitter your problem and test his knowledge against what I just told you.

Good Luck

 
I forgot to tell you that if you don't have the proper flex on a boot for your body shape you will have shin issues. More often in a boot that is to stiff, but just also in boots that are soft.
 
If you ca n fit into kryptons, buy them, they are fully customizable, change flex with little clip addons on the il moro and rampage, forward lean, etc. they are the best boots for me
 
i like what freeskiing youth said about bootfitting in terms of the zeppa, and the booster straps, but i feel he's not going into the flex of the boot enough.

Being a bootfitter myself i will agree with everything he said, but would like to add a bit.

When you try on a boot, buckle it down, and flex foreward as hard as you can. if you feel a dead spot or pressure from one of the buckles.... the boot doesn't work with your body. don't buy it.

the dead spot is usally caused by a buckle, but can also be from the boots lack of flex with you. trust me you'll feel it.

the other thing to look for is the cuff of the boot fitting your leg. when you flex foreward, make sure your calves don't come off the back of the boot. if they do, the boots are too roomy, and you'll get shinbang too.

just because a boot fits lengthwise, and around your foot, doesn't mean it will fit your leg properly.

you can actually ski a stiff boot if it fits you well and flexes properly with your body.

I do however swear by the full tilts, because of their natural flex, and wrap around liners that totally fill up the volume of the boot.

the other thing is that boots can be punched and ground out, and are designed to be. this means go with a boot that is a hair too narrow, instead of a boot that is a bit wide. you'll get a way better fit out of the boot in the long run.

I've been rocking the konflicts for a full season now, and on the shell fit, my feet touch the sides just barely. thanks to a custom foot bed, and the very high quality intuition liner (full tilts is a step above the other intuitions... it has a different layer of foam) my feet are very happy in them. i've never once gotten shin bag from them either.

but really pay attention to the flex. and just make sure you don't get your boots too big.
 
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