Glaciers melting

.Roockley.

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I hiked Wedge Mountain next to Blackcomb about a week ago and managed to grab a few photos

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I was looking at a few photos from around the area online and then I found this picture of Wedgemount Glacier taken in around 1973 (The H is the hut from the first picture)

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I can't believe how quickly its melted away, I'm now really intrigued as to what will happen with the glacier riding a mountain over. (Standing by for Tom's interview with WB bout snow making to be posted)

If you haven't seen the documentary chasing ice I'd highly recommend it

trailer is here

I believe the documentary is on netflix in full if you want to watch it
 
Thanks climate change and all the dickhead politicians that don't give two shits about our planet. Looking at you republicians
 
13472484:S.J.W said:
Thanks climate change and all the dickhead politicians that don't give two shits about our planet. Looking at you republicians

I'm a representative for the $wagpublicans
 
Uggggg!

Ok, let's just stop for a second shall we? It is thought that there have been 5 major ice ages throughout the history of the planet. Outside of these ice age events the planet has been, for the most part, ice free. The last glacial period of the last (current?) ice age ended about 10000 years ago. To put that into perspective - ALL mountainous regions of British Columbia were under as much as 2km+ of ice just 10000 years ago. Every single glacier on this planet is the left over ice from the last glacier period that ended 10000 years ago. Get what I'm saying?

Unless we go into another glacier period in the next 5000 years (i totally just made that up, but I'm sure I'm not too far off), every single piece of glacial ice on the entire planet will be gone (except for maybe the far, far north and south regions of the planet - and it has nothing to do with anything besides the fact that it's just the continuation of what has been happening for the past 10000 years.

We as a species have a really hard time understanding that things change drastically over a time frame that is beyond our lifespan.

Short story: About a month or so ago I was working in the bush with a co worker. We were in a really beautiful cedar old growth stand and my co worker asked me how old I think the trees were. I told him somewhere around 500 years. He thought they were way older and guessed around 2000. I explained to him that the forest itself can't be more than 10000 years old due to the fact that the entire valley up to the mountain tops was under 2km of ice and due to the science of forests, multiple stages of forest happened over the years before the Interior Cedar/Hemlock (ICH) forest even existed. 2000 years ago there might not have even been cedar trees in the south interior of British Columbia. Climate, Ecology, Biology, etc... These are all dynamic things that have been and always will be in a constant change outside of human interference.

I'm not saying that we aren't speeding up the process of so called "global warming" (puke), but that's just it - we are perhaps SPEEDING it up - this warming of the planet started without us and it doesn't need our help.
 
13472520:Drail said:
I'm not saying that we aren't speeding up the process of so called "global warming" (puke), but that's just it - we are perhaps SPEEDING it up - this warming of the planet started without us and it doesn't need our help.

No, you're wrong. We are speeding up climate change. 97% of peer reviwed studies done by sciencetists agree that humans are speeding up climate change and that we are the main cause of it.
 
13472520:Drail said:
Uggggg!

Ok, let's just stop for a second shall we? It is thought that there have been 5 major ice ages throughout the history of the planet. Outside of these ice age events the planet has been, for the most part, ice free. The last glacial period of the last (current?) ice age ended about 10000 years ago. To put that into perspective - ALL mountainous regions of British Columbia were under as much as 2km+ of ice just 10000 years ago. Every single glacier on this planet is the left over ice from the last glacier period that ended 10000 years ago. Get what I'm saying?

Unless we go into another glacier period in the next 5000 years (i totally just made that up, but I'm sure I'm not too far off), every single piece of glacial ice on the entire planet will be gone (except for maybe the far, far north and south regions of the planet - and it has nothing to do with anything besides the fact that it's just the continuation of what has been happening for the past 10000 years.

We as a species have a really hard time understanding that things change drastically over a time frame that is beyond our lifespan.

Short story: About a month or so ago I was working in the bush with a co worker. We were in a really beautiful cedar old growth stand and my co worker asked me how old I think the trees were. I told him somewhere around 500 years. He thought they were way older and guessed around 2000. I explained to him that the forest itself can't be more than 10000 years old due to the fact that the entire valley up to the mountain tops was under 2km of ice and due to the science of forests, multiple stages of forest happened over the years before the Interior Cedar/Hemlock (ICH) forest even existed. 2000 years ago there might not have even been cedar trees in the south interior of British Columbia. Climate, Ecology, Biology, etc... These are all dynamic things that have been and always will be in a constant change outside of human interference.

I'm not saying that we aren't speeding up the process of so called "global warming" (puke), but that's just it - we are perhaps SPEEDING it up - this warming of the planet started without us and it doesn't need our help.

the way i see it is it directly affects our sport (see summer skiing in whis) and it's releasing C02 that has been trapped under the ice for thousands of years it's making it way worse way quicker. this has the potential to destory crops, make more areas uninhabitable and ruin eco systems.

i realise this can happen every how ever many thousand years but C02 parts per million are now sat around 400 way higher than it has ever been in the past

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13472534:S.J.W said:
No, you're wrong. We are speeding up climate change. 97% of peer reviwed studies done by sciencetists agree that humans are speeding up climate change and that we are the main cause of it.

you know that I agree... I even said that we are speeding it up in my post. We aren't causing climate change though. That's just bad grammar/way of looking at climate. Climate has been changing on this planet since we got an atmosphere. Half of North America was covered by glacier 10000 years ago, what we have for glaciers right now is just the left overs.
 
13472557:Drail said:
you know that I agree... I even said that we are speeding it up in my post. We aren't causing climate change though. That's just bad grammar/way of looking at climate. Climate has been changing on this planet since we got an atmosphere. Half of North America was covered by glacier 10000 years ago, what we have for glaciers right now is just the left overs.

When I was in HS I took an environmental science course. I'm pretty sure my teacher mentioned that our atmosphere is deteriorating. That there was some phenomenon in the zone above Antarctica. Then again that was five years ago...
 
13472580:DirtYStylE said:
When I was in HS I took an environmental science course. I'm pretty sure my teacher mentioned that our atmosphere is deteriorating. That there was some phenomenon in the zone above Antarctica. Then again that was five years ago...

It was also a high school teacher
 
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