"Givin' Back"

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dopepoles

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'okay, so everyone talks about companies being 'core' and supporting the freeskiing industry by 'giving back', but what EXACTLY makes a company 'core' and what constitutes 'giving back'?

How is K2 a core company and salomon isn't?

I'm studying business at school and i'm interested in opinions.

 
It's just bullshit for people who don't want to buy good skis

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Ski. Eat. Sex. Sleep. Ski. What else is there?
 
if anyone has really given back its the older companies like rossignol, they have been making skis for almost 100 years as of 2007.

 
too bad they just sold themselves to quicksilver

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The whole mountain is park on a powder day. -dylhole
 
^ it makes no difference..... rossi salomon k2, have all helped out skiing but so have all the new companies... i think all companies have helped in some way...

 
i think what people mean by core is companys that make only twin tip skis so the money stays in the industry, when you support a company like rossignol your not sure if the money from the skis is going back into the development of twin tips or newschool skis. It could just be going into new innovations in there racing skis. Whereas a company such as Liberty, 4FRNT, Armada, Ninthward, ect. are all considered core companys. When you support these companys the money is going directly back into the industry to fund there riders, new development, products, events, etc. so pretty much putting more money back into newschool skiing and skiing these companys support.

-Nick Iwanyshyn

www.ninthward.com
 
^ yahh what he said. just buy what ever you want as long as you buy skis its fine.

07' fo life bitch

I dont know what ya heard about me,

but ya aint gettin a smirinoff for free,

you can sit yourself, on-my-knee,

but keep ya hands off me P.I.N.T.

 
The ski companies that have been around from the start are the core companies, none of these new companies that have only been around for a few years. Who cares if they're run by skiers for skiers? I mean that's great and all but it doesn't make you core.

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i thnk you used to many of """"""""""""" those things.

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A company gives back in a lot of ways- developing progressive products, sponsoring up-and-comers, hosting events, etc. Even so, it's hard to point out an immediate difference between a company like Armada (which is "core") and a company like Salomon (which is not "core"). Sure, Armada makes only twin tips and sponsors only newschoolers and sponsors only newschool events and has only newschool as a target market, whereas Salomon still produces product, advertising, etc. with the general public in mind. Nevertheless, Salomon sponsors more riders than Armada and puts in a lot more money into the industry in terms of advertising, events, athletes, and so on. And the products of non-core companies are, on the whole, probably still better than those of core companies, although that debate will never end.

All in all, you have to choose between two definitions. A, "core" means that a company is either rider-owned, only produces newschool-oriented equipment, or is in business not just to make money (i.e. to support and further the development of newschool skiing); or B, that "core" is a marketing trick used by the small fish against the big fish, a method to push inferior equipment.

'now i have tendanites in my achelles tendan in my other ancle' - skibrdingbitch
 
Rex made a good point once about how with the non-"core" companies, it is actually the racing that supports the newschool. He said that the newschool market of these big companies doesn't actualyl produce enough funding to put much money into R&D so the racing programs have to throw some funding in. I will support any company where I like their product. Too many companies are going with the same old same old. whats the difference between an AR5 to a scratch, to a chopper to a PE. Flex and to a degree, core construction. With the exception of rossi, all those other skis are just pieces of wood with sidewalls. I like how line and atomic are pushing the envelope, changing things up, and progressing the sport. K2 to a degree will always be a solid company aswell.

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You can go on the bottom bunk and finish it yourself

When you guys are on those rails, it's like muah

You A-hole
 
dude that makes no difference its not gonna be quiksilver skis its still Rossignol just the overall ownership is to Rossignol

 
skibum_, your comparison of skis makes no sense. there's plenty of differences between armada and rossi. about the only thing similar is sidecut, and that they are twintips. and there are other companies besides rossi who use something other than wood in their cores too.

 
I think being "core" means that you are dedicated to the sport %100. Like old companies, like rossi, and k2, and evolution. They are always looking to evolve but keep in mind the the roots from which skiing came from

 
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