Girl killed in Red Sox riots

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horrible this happened. It really takes a great night and turns it into a complete tragedy

im amazed this photo is the front page cover of the Boston Herald

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Does the alcohol ban that some people in Boston want to have during the series stand any chance of actually passing?

 
very good chance, and to be honest, as much as that will suck, keeping people sober is probably the only guarenteed way to keep the riots down

i GUESS their gonna ban beer in the park, and bars from selling liquor and showing the game

but nothing is final

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You've gotta be kidding me! Banning alcohol is only going to cause more rioting. You don't think that people are going to get good and loaded up on their own before watching the game? They tried the alcohol ban at OU and it just made things worse. I think the most horrible thing about the entire situation was that the girl was killed by the police! They were using 'non-lethal' bullets and guess what.....apparently they're a little more lethal than they thought.

 
as bad as i feel about the girl dying, the police had to do something...their not non lethal bullets, their 'less lethal', meaning there is a very small but realistic chance they can cause death (such an instance, if they strike your eye, diretly into your heart, another vounerable part of your body)

people were trying to flip cars, they were climbing the green monster/reverse the curse billboards/everything...its just pure stupidity on their part..and its mostly college kids who dont even live in Boston, but just go out planning to have a good time, then busting shit up

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i never heard of this happening when the yankees won.

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my dad was tellin me up at the university of nh, people were lightin couches on fire in the middle of the street.

Yankees suck...Go sox!
 
u cant ban bars from showing the game or serving liquor, even if people will get it somewhere it wont change a thing

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word twix... you boston fans are whack... in the 26 championships i never heard of a riot

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there were riots at UNH/UMASS/UVM/BOSTON...im suprised at the UVM one..damn hippies

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my friend told me that people were gasses at UVM, he was on the other end of campus though when it happened

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it's sad, because in this case, there WAS NO NEED or police to react in this way. A lot of people who were with her or saw it happen ahve all reported teh same thing. The group was under control, NOT rioting. One person threw a bottle near a police horse, and another officer turned around and immediatly fired 2 shots into the crowd. the girl fell over instantly.

a less-lethel weapon such as the pepper bullet used here is deisnged to be shot chest level or below. NOT at the head. The cop fucked up big time, and I hope he/she is charged.

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kill kill kill we dont care we are police we wont get in trouble.

fuck the police, this is what im talking about

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pat,

while you know I do consider you a friend, id have to disagree with you.

Sure, cops are a bit trigger happy, but you cant tell how anyone in that situation would react. IN all riots, the people always claim police did the wrong thing. In this instance, the police FUCKED UP, and the city of boston, with the right move, quickly admitted their mistakes. You just cant ruin the officers life, because clearly, no police wanted that to happen. It wasnt anyones intention to take her life, its just a horribly tragic incident that really ruins a great night for Sox fans

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oh im sure alot of people wanted pain on them and to punish, its human nature

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thats bullshit that cop is retarded....he should focus more....i mean if you randomly fire 2 shots into a crowd its like a 80%chance itll hit the head if they are close together because only your head will be showing

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i heard about this in global today for the first time... it's complete bullshit that some innocent chick had to die b/c of some dumbass cop's ignorance.

'Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil..'
 
u know whats kinda wierd about the pictures, it has the girl dead and talks about the riots, then on top it says GO SOX. just thought it shouldn't be right attached to the article

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anthony. I do agree with you for the most part. however, while I do think he should face some penatly, murder is not what I would like to see him get hit with. A involintary manslaughter is a very fitting charge in this case. I just don't see any excuse for one human killing another, especially in this case.

-Pat Melvin
 
yeah, that sucks, but it's not murder at all.

but christ, over a fucking baseball game?!

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^^ I agree twix. They shouldnt have posted those pictures anyway that was so disrespectful. And notice this...the front cover...or maybe the 4th page...the girl that is kneeling down trying to help. STILL has a fucking cigarette in one hand. youd think if she cared at all shed at least throw her cigarette and try to help. thats outrageous. im so mad with the harold and just wiat till tomorrows letters to the editor. theyre gonna get flamed SO bad

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altaman, get the hell out of here you cocksmoke, we dont give a shit what you think. start your own friggin thread if you wanna say baseball sucks.

Yankees suck...Go sox!
 
I checked the Herald website and they've already been flooded with letters about the picture. They've posted a bunch of them on their website

 
Sickening, why do people need to turn a happy moment into a violent and destructive frenzy.

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i am glad that people wrote to them about it. it is very unneccesary and disrespectful to have, especially on the front page

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because the people who turned it into a bad moment didnt have a reason to be happy because theyre not true red sox fans. Theyre fuckers who just want an excuse to destroy things like they think its 'the cool' thing to do. People only goto fenway because they think its the cool thing to do and then when theyre there they destroy things. its not real red sox fans who are destroying things. Im a real red sox fan and i didnt even goto fenway and i live 3 blocks from the stadium. And now since boston blames EVERYTHING on northeastern because of a few stupid people we will probably get everything taken away from us (concerts, events etc..)

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yeah, I dig what your saying. That sounds completely accurate to how these things happen. I wouldn't start burning cars and breaking windows if the Twins won the series, I'd probably go out and party like its 1991

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ya thats right more government control thats exactly what we need. fucken idiots.

its not alcohols fault

its the fault of all you beer addled yankees.

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yea but newskool, when i get excited about things, i dont go out and burn things and trash things. instead i go 'yay yippee whoopde freakin doo'. i dont go and dropkick a dog or anything like that

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it's too bad that the girl was killed, but u can't blame the police casue they need to do something to stop all of the assholes from rioting or every year it will get worse and worse. most of the people who riot r drunk college kids who have probably never played baseball in their life and truly don't give a fuck about baseball. they r just out their for the moment, and i u ask me, i think the police should use more force casue i think they deserve to get the shit kicked out of them for wut they r doing.

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it's the cops fault for firing above the shoulders but if the girl was at home or somewhere else (ie-not in an angry/happy mob) she wouldn't have been killed. but, then someone else would have.

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That is disgusting on the Herald's part...I mean...jesus a dead girl on the ground then BEST SOX COVERAGE.

I don't really know exactly what happened, it was hard to get past the picture. But the riots weren't too bad, I watched them live on TV. They smashed in a soveriegn bank sign and lit a few small fires..but thats about it. And once the police moved in, the crowd dispersed. I know it was an accident and all....but damn does that look bad for Boston police.

First they're in trouble for doing too little in the Superbowl riots, now they're in deep deep shit for going overboard. It's really a bummer.

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the following below is an eyewitness account from a person directly next to the girl who was fatally shot with a pepper gun bullet of some sorts...while it is tragic that she died in this senseless riot, it gives a unbiased opinion that the police were being verbally and physically assaulted..so they had SOME bearing to shoot the rounds into the crowd

Situation was dire’: Eyewitness details fatal Fenway riot

By Dave Wedge

Friday, October 22, 2004

Perched on a cement parking deck on Lansdowne Street early yesterday, I watched a tragedy unfold.

     As an unwitting Victoria Snelgrove stood by a sausage cart with friends, six police officers on horseback and a handful of riot cops became surrounded by a surging - and increasingly hostile - mob of Red Sox revelers. Despite scattered fires, vandalism, a few scuffles and some arrests, the scene was relatively under control for a while.

     But things took a deadly turn after a heated exchange between a mounted officer and a surly young man in a gray knit cap. After he refused the cop's orders to leave the area, the officer, from his horse, grabbed the man from the back of his shirt and tossed him to the ground.

     The man got up and began hurling obscenities and making obscene gestures at the furious cop. Tensions quickly rose. Some in the crowd tossed bottles at police while the horses began getting out of control. Riot cops moved in and started forcefully moving people from the area.

     At one point, I saw an officer toting a compressed air gun fire at least one round into the crowd. A split second later, the 21-year-old Emerson College journalism major was lying on the sidewalk, blood streaming from her face.

     Standing directly above the scene, I watched her friends softly caress her head as she drifted in and out of consciousness. One felt for her pulse. Some in the crowd began screaming for an ambulance. Another cried, ``Call 911.''

     At first glance, she seemed just a minor casualty in the foolish clash between drunken knuckleheads and police trying to reign in the chaos. But it soon became obvious the situation was dire. After about five minutes, an ambulance carved a swath through the crowd and the dying student was taken away on a stretcher.

     Today, she's in a funeral home.

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so theyre intelligence isnt being quiestioned, just their ability to fire a gun? thats just about as bad...

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I regret to inform you that we experienced a riot on the Redstone Campus

in the early morning hours, following the Boston Red Sox victory against

the New York Yankees.

According to early reports, more than 1,000 students participated in the

riot, in which a service van was tipped on its side, close to 20 campus

light poles were snapped off and several windows were broken. We are

currently tallying the damage and do not yet have a monetary value.

We are thankful that no personal injuries resulted from this most

unfortunate and inexcusable incident. It is nevertheless the case that far

worse things can happen than what we actually experienced last night in

the course of this incident and, accordingly, we take last night's event

and the need to prevent similar occurrences with the utmost seriousness.

University Police Services requested assistance from two dozen police

officers from police departments in Burlington, South Burlington,

Winooski, Colchester, Richmond, Williston, Essex and Vermont State Police.

Police officers, following well established response protocols, deployed

pepper-ball launchers to disperse the uncontrolled mob and restore order.

The launchers deliver paint-ball-like balls filled with Oleoresin

Capsicum, an industrial form of the capsicums that make chili peppers hot

and spicy. It is considered a safe and non-lethal tool that police

agencies deploy in order to prevent the type of personal injury and

extensive property damage than can result from riots growing out of

control.

The behavior exhibited by our students this morning is completely

unacceptable. Any students found to have violated campus judicial codes or

state law will be held accountable.

As an educational institution, we will explore ways to foster constructive

and peaceful ways to celebrate. It is a sad statement that in our society

so many of these celebrations of athletic success turn into dangerous and

destructive events.

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see yankee fans wouldn't do this, you guys are fucking nuts.

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^ you need to shut up, in every thread about the red sox u whine about how we got lucky, no the yankees fell apart and decided to cheat and cry. now when the red sox fans riot you guys are saying that yankees fans never riot, well thats like white people saying black people rioting over discrimination is stupid white people would never riot. you dont get where the red sox fans are coming from just like white people dont get how bad it sucks to have a cop pull you over 70 times a year because your black...

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that has to be the worst way to die

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I agree with twix-182, you don't need to break stuff to celebrate, or you could at least go light a fire in the privacy of your own home.

Maybe this will make the dumbasses who think that Halloween is cause a riot here in Madison will calm the fuck down.

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