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File-sharing dragnet scoops up Bay City grandma

Sunday, February 20, 2005

By Crystal Harmon

TIMES WRITER

You've got to pay the piper, the saying goes, if you want to call the tune.

And if you want to share the tunes online, you might get hit with a mighty big bill.

The recording industry has targeted hundreds of people around the country with lawsuits, alleging they infringed on record companies' copyrights when giving and taking music online.

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A Bay City family got served with notice of such a lawsuit last month at their home on King Street.

'I almost got a heart attack when I was going over those papers,' said Margaret Szeliga, an automotive design engineer and single mother. 'What happened? How did this happen? I was in shock when I saw those court papers.'

The person named as defendant in the lawsuit is Szeliga's mother - a 70-year-old Polish immigrant who speaks little English and has never even owned a computer, let alone downloaded the songs 'Armed to the Teeth' by Epidemic or 'The Backend of Forever' by Coheed and Cambria.

Those are just two of the 671 songs listed in the lawsuit, filed last month in U.S. District Court, accusing Szeliga's mother of violating copyright laws.

Szeliga says her 17-year-old daughter, like millions of other teens, took part in online music swapping while the two lived with her mom before moving into another apartment in the same home. Since her mother paid the Internet bill, she's listed as the one doing the swapping.

Szeliga phoned the industry lawyers and quickly hashed out a tentative settlement, she said, avoiding the expense of hiring a lawyer and the hassle of court proceedings and a threat of even greater cost.

But it's not cheap. She has 90 days to pay the Recording Industry Association of America $3,750.

She'll raid her 17-year-old daughter's college fund and senior class trip fund and take out a personal loan to pay the unexpected bill. She said her daughter is devastated, feeling guilty, depressed and angry for being penalized for an activity that's common practice.

'I wish we would have had some kind of warning,' Szeliga said. 'I just cannot believe our luck. What are the odds? Some of her friends have over 4,000 songs. On a raffle, we never win anything. On a situation like this, we are the unlucky ones.'

The recording industry says 2.6 billion songs are illegally shared via the Internet each month. Through software that allows computer users to trade music at the touch of the button, an estimated 60 million Americans are building massive music libraries for free.

In the Szeliga family's case, though, the 'free' collection of 671 songs will end up costing them about five bucks per tune - tunes which, as part of the settlement, must be destroyed.

Swapping or stealing?

The Recording Industry Association of America sued 717 people around the country last month for copyright infringement. It's the third major round, with the first coming in 2003. Most of the lawsuits end in settlements like that reached by Szeliga.

The RIAA claims that the drastic action is necessary to keep the music industry healthy.

Illegal file-sharing robs musicians of their livelihoods and threatens the very future of the music industry, industry advocates say.

They point to a 26 percent decline in sales of recorded music over the past five years - paired with a surge in the sales of blank compact discs folks use to copy music.

The latest technology that makes it so easy to swap, rather than buy, recorded music; however, also makes it easier to track down offenders.

To prepare for the lawsuits, record industry representatives joined online music-sharing networks and scanned other members' directories - which are an open book to fellow members.

The directories list files members are offering to distribute. The record industry investigators downloaded some of the music, copied the directory, and noted the date and time.

The RIAA - which represents most major record labels - then served subpoenas on Internet Service Providers demanding records to identify the Internet user believed to be violating copyright laws.

While downloading even a single copyrighted song is illegal, the industry focused on folks who were making substantial collections of tunes available through the network, according to RIAA press releases and their informational Web site, whatsthedownload.com.

Unable to sue the millions of apparent violators at once, the RIAA targeted people around the country, making sure that each of the federal court districts were represented.

Their hope is to generate enough publicity that folks, fearing a lawsuit or even criminal charges, will turn to legal online music providers, such as iTunes, which charges 99 cents per song.

Legitimate music services grow in popularity with more and more music being purchased every day,' said Steven Marks, general counsel for RIAA, in a press release trumpeting the latest batch of lawsuits.

'But the great music created by hard-working writers, artists and technicians continues to be stolen at an alarming rate through illegitimate peer-to-peer services on the Internet.

We must continue to let individuals know that they bear responsibility for illegally stealing the work of those who make the music. And we need to educate them about the widespread availability of legal music sites on the Web.

With the number of legal online music sites growing - more than 200 are now in operation, industry leaders hope consumers will take the safe and legal route to building their music libraries rather and accept that the free ride is over.

The law is clear and the message to those who are distributing substantial quantities of music online should be equally clear - this activity is illegal, you are not anonymous when you do it, and engaging in it can have real consequences, said RIAA president Cary Sherman.

But the message is slow to get through.

A Survey by the Pew Internet and American Life Project recently revealed that 58 percent of people who actively download music say they don't care about copyrights.

Online file-sharing leaves tracks

How the conflicts over copyrights will be resolved in the digital age remains unknown.

'It's anybody's guess right now,' said Jerry Henderson, professor of broadcast and cinematic arts at Central Michigan University. 'The RIAA is trying to stop the illegal fire sharing. They're trying to capture money they, and the performers, should be getting.

'The interesting question is going to be whether ignorance of the law will be a defense.'

Copying and distributing copyrighted music has always been illegal, even in the olden days of vinyl records. But it was a cumbersome task, with sometimes less-than-stellar results.

'What really made the difference was the digitizing,' Henderson said. 'An illegal copy is almost as good as the master CD in terms of quality. That's why it's a whole new ballgame.'

Also making a difference is the fact that file-swapping online leaves digital fingerprints of the crime. No one knew if you recorded your 'Frampton Comes Alive' album on a cassette to give to your buddy.

As technology evolves, the ability to control dissemination of entertainment becomes more challenging. Radio stations - such as the student-run one at CMU - now broadcast in streaming digital formats. Listeners with the right software could easily capture those songs and make copies, Henderson said.

Some music fans are striking back at the record companies. Electronic Frontier Foundation is a group of lawyers, scholars and music lovers that has come to the legal defense of some defendants in the RIAA lawsuits.

EFF says record companies violate consumers' privacy in their quest to ferret out copyright violators. Rather than sue individual music collectors, the organization suggests that record companies embrace file-sharing and find a way to collect payments from users, other than filing lawsuits.

The EFF (www.eff.org) wants people to interested in 'fighting the copyright regime' to join their organization and help change laws so that peer-to-peer sharing of music files is no longer illegal.

Henderson expects that, within a decade, music - and other forms of entertainment - will become almost like a utility. Consumers will have access to a global collection of nearly every song, movie and TV show ever made on tap for viewing or listening on demand. A monthly bill will show up, and a portion of that bill will cover royalties.

In the meantime, though, the record companies are fighting to get folks to buy the cow and stop getting the milk for free.

High court to weigh in

College students were among those targeted in the latest round of suits - 68 students at 23 universities, including Michigan State, Wayne State and the University of Michigan, were sued for illegal file sharing.

Henderson said some universities, including CMU, are attempting to educate students about the illegality of free music-swapping and 'convince them that file-sharing is not cool.'

'The university has cut off access to students computers for excessive file sharing,' he said.

While music is the most commonly swapped type of entertainment, copyrighted movies are also available online - illegally - with a click of the mouse.

The U.S. Supreme Court will take up a case next month that, while it focuses on movie-swapping, may set precedent for those who collect music for free in cyberspace.

The court will weigh in on the case of MGM Studios vs. Grokster. The movie-maker is suing the company that produces software that makes sharing movies online so simple.

At issue is weather to software-maker is responsible for the copyright infringement their software facilitates. An estimated 600,000 movies are downloaded daily, according to MGM.

It's up to consumers, most of whom wouldn't even consider shop-lifting from a record or movie store,- to decide whether it's worth the risk to take songs and movies online in violation of copyright laws.

To be completely safe, Henderson suggests folks avoid it.

'If it's free, it's probably illegal,' he said.

Szeliga wishes she'd have understood more about the potential consequences of copyright infringement a year ago.

She'd heard rumblings about Kazaa, the services her daughter used to build up a library of music ranging from Willie Nelson to Incubus.

The conventional wisdom was that if you kept your music library under 1,000 songs, you'd be safe from any kind of legal action, Szeliga said, 'but I told her it could be trouble.'

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I love how they talk about robbing musicians of their livelyhoods.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

so much for that. 2 basic points come to mind. Artists make VERY VERY LITTLE money from record sales. Also, most of the music being made today is to be blamed for the decline. Asheley Simpson winning awards??? enough said.

Fuck the RIAA.

-Pat
 
it only makes me want to download music more often. Fuck the RIAA and every damn talentless piece of shit that has more money than they deserve.

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Here is the RIAA way of dealing with people-'lets get the people the least responsible and make them pay, oh and make sure they cant defend themselves'

Move to canada, its not illegal here. And yeah, i think i'm gonna download some more music right now.

I'm an ocean in your bedroom
Make you feel warm
Make you want to re-assume
Now we know it all for sure

The star wars of the 80's!!!
I'm rick james, bitch.
 
absolute bullshit. I understand where the mother is coming from and not wanting to deal with it, but she should have fought it as hard as she could and set a precedent.

This is getting out of control.

The best part was 'Illegal file-sharing robs musicians of their livelihoods and threatens the very future of the music industry, industry advocates say.'

Oh no! if you download a song, then you are killing the music industry! Make it stop!

Look, the technology is here and it is here to stay. The RIAA can parade around and waste millions of dollars trying to stop it, or they can invest that same money in taking apart of it.

Interesting enough, my downloading has in some way robbed musicians of their livelihood. But strangely, since I have had the freedom to download music and sample new artists, I have bought more cds, purchased more merchandise, and been to more shows than ever.

Eat. Sleep. Breathe. Ski.

 
a supreme court judge in canada said that in order for music to be downloaded, then it must be bought first.

He also said, that its not copyright infringement because anybody who ever used a copier at work or at school would be sued.

I'm an ocean in your bedroom
Make you feel warm
Make you want to re-assume
Now we know it all for sure

The star wars of the 80's!!!
I'm rick james, bitch.
 
all he ever wanted was an island in french polynesia...

who the hell takes pictures of themselves with a camera phone?? those are made to sneak pics of girls tits and underwear-lateralis
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^ Someone should use some of those points and fight back against these basterds. It really is getting out of hand over something that really doesn't hurt anyone at all. I mean, yeah I download music for free, but as mentioned above, it makes me want to go out and buy all their music. I've bought more cds because of this file sharing, not less.

----2ond in Command of DANSA-----

To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

GW Award December 3, 2004
 
they are really shooting themselves in the foot, read the last paragraph of what ghostdragon said. he knows whats up. these guys are idots....

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-Matt

wayne gretzky, the only man i'd have sex with. i'd be intimate with, wayne gretzky

ska is dead.... and you're next !
 
they are getting away with murder.

-Joel

~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~
Capital City Rider, DFP
Silent Army


'Everybody calls me a zero. But I'm an internet hero.'
 
yeah, music is an art for the masses, and i dont have $14.99 to pay for 10-12 songs. if i didnt download or copy cds, i would have 0 songs, i cant afford to buy music at all.

-Joe
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Official NS marketing consultant

Help me get a free ipod please!?!?!http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=9734247
 
i can think of so many ways to get fre music and movies its retarded... even if they did somehow manage to ban filesharting, id still buy a new cd maybe... once a year... theres still used cds, burned cds, filesharing with people's ipods or mp3 players... theyd basically have to end computers and go back to records to really stop it.. and as for movies, well ill just rent movies and copy them to the computer and rip dvds, or put them on vhs from my xbox or record them off of pay per view or on tivo. theyre fucking stupid to think they can stop the sharing of media... although ive really got no court argument, the fact is i havent paid royalties on more than 2 or 3 things a year for years... and i could still legally get music. but... now i get it free... and my local used cd store went out of business a long time ago. bastards.

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

its not rape....its surprise sex. you wake up and SURPRISE you had sex with me haha - huckster989

liberals think killing babies can be both fun and profitable, while conservatives think killing foreigners can be both fun and profitable - ice-is-scary

 
oh yeah, im going to go listen to one of my 18000 songs now

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

its not rape....its surprise sex. you wake up and SURPRISE you had sex with me haha - huckster989

liberals think killing babies can be both fun and profitable, while conservatives think killing foreigners can be both fun and profitable - ice-is-scary

 
one of my friends got caught downloading movies, he got a letter from our college and a production company. they just made him delete it, though.

 
thats bull shit man, tell me how artists are becoming poorer, fuck they can spend thousands of dollars ona simple bottle of wine? and artists on cribs obviously are not becoming poor......downloading music lets us hear different artists.hellif i like a band i download ill go out and by the cd, but if i have never heard of them, specially alot of the bands that are unkown, i would never buy a cd from that band......

'Ever been hit in the head with a golf ball?'

-JF Cusson, making the argument that golf is an extreme sport

 
Yeah, that argument immediately falls apart when i even MENTION st. anger.

I'm an ocean in your bedroom
Make you feel warm
Make you want to re-assume
Now we know it all for sure

The star wars of the 80's!!!
I'm rick james, bitch.
 
...all he wanted was a gold plated shark tank, and now that people are downloading his music, he will have to wait a few months before he can afford it



Moe

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Drunk.Drivers.Against.Mothers.

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613
 
I'd argue that you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person whose internet line is the one who downloaded the music. Innocent until proven guilty.

The smart man does not know everything, rather the smart man admits when he knows nothing.
 
ahaha Has anyone ween the southpark where they download music and some FBI guy shows them how 'devastating' it was to the artists?

'...But because of your evil downloading, Alec Baldwin here will have to wait 4 extra days before his statue of himself arrives' ahaha I love that one.

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Kitting is so progressional.
 
^heh, yeah, I think someone near the top quoted a line from it. Like Britney Spears can only afford the Gulf Stream II lear jet instead of the Gulf Stream III.

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^ Yeah but it is soo true though. If only the people realized that.

----2ond in Command of DANSA-----

To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

GW Award December 3, 2004
 
bah...the real good stuff is hard to find anyway, who cares if I rob ashley simpson?

i hope harvey bans you just so i can piss on your digital grave.

~mommy
 
what movie is that from so i can download it from the internet?

I'm an ocean in your bedroom
Make you feel warm
Make you want to re-assume
Now we know it all for sure

The star wars of the 80's!!!
I'm rick james, bitch.
 
girls in my town going to jail for banging a girl who passed out at a party with drumsticks

I don't need no arms around me
I don't need no drugs to calm me
I have seen the writing on the wall
 
If you get a something from the RIAA, buy a new HD. Tell them if they can find the music, otherwise fack off.

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Its not the size of the army, but the fury of its onslaught
 
i think what you meant to say was:

girls in my town going to jail for banging a girl with drumsticks who passed out at a party

english man!!! ENGLISH!

-Joe
_______________________________________
Official NS marketing consultant

Help me get a free ipod please!?!?!http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=9734247
 
shit, thats as bad as your sentance...

there are girls in my town who are going to jail for using drumsticks to bang a girl who passed out at a party.

ok, now im happy

also, which kind of 'bang' are you referring to?

-Joe
_______________________________________
Official NS marketing consultant

Help me get a free ipod please!?!?!http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=9734247
 
everyone that gets sued by those companies are the computer illiterate retards who dont know how to not share files.

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For steezy my neezy keep my arms so breezy
 
I just move my fiels to a new folder after they are downloaded...

Like a virgin on prom night

You can go on the bottom bunk and finish it yourself

When you guys are on those rails, it's like muah

You A-hole
 
i live in michigan too. are they monitering all of it cause i have like 7 songs i want really badly and was going to get em tonite. how do you stop them from getting you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is better than freeipods they dont spam you-help me out i swear it works- free ipod or other mp3 player and you only have to put 7 bucks into doing an offer.http://www.mp3players4free.com/default.aspx?r=14896

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^dont forget the 2!
 
sharing is careing fuck the riaa.

one thing that i find really stupid about this is that they say they say that if people were buying cds, the money would be going to the artists. then they sue some dude, and keep all the money for their god damn selves.

'the music industry' music is not a fucking industry. its just fucking music, and the only person that should make any money off it should be the artist themselves. try not to buy cds. buy shirts and go to shows to get your money to go more directly to the band.

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if your message ain't shit, fuck the records you sold cuz if you go platinum, it's got nothing to do with luck it just means that a million people are stupid as fuck

 
use bit torrent to download music. if you dl movies using bit torrent you will be cought though, but the riaa doesnt check if you get shit from bt.

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if your message ain't shit, fuck the records you sold cuz if you go platinum, it's got nothing to do with luck it just means that a million people are stupid as fuck

 
i love living in canada...i share tons of fucking music and movies but do i care? no.

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see my thread titles 'canadians watch out' which i have bumped up

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if your message ain't shit, fuck the records you sold cuz if you go platinum, it's got nothing to do with luck it just means that a million people are stupid as fuck

 
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