Getting away with out of bounds skiing

doubleblackjack

doubleblackjack

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So there is this liftline cliff at my local mtn. I’ve heard many stories of kids getting their passes pulled from just skiing it once.

Any strategies to get away with this? Would it work to just get a lift ticket for the day i try it? or would they find some way to take my pass
 
theres this ski that makes the whole mountain your playground

perhaps with these capabilities you could pull it off
 
topic:doubleblackjack said:
So there is this liftline cliff at my local mtn. I’ve heard many stories of kids getting their passes pulled from just skiing it once.

Any strategies to get away with this? Would it work to just get a lift ticket for the day i try it? or would they find some way to take my pass
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How big is this cliff? Is it a “Send it and you’ll get +6 women’s in your DMs” or is it more like a “Send it and you feel cool about yourself but if we’re all being honest it only felt cool” type thing?
 
14311962:Max.bro said:
How big is this cliff? Is it a “Send it and you’ll get +6 women’s in your DMs” or is it more like a “Send it and you feel cool about yourself but if we’re all being honest it only felt cool” type thing?
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Yeah definitely a feel cool about yourself kinda thing. Not huge in any way, but I’ve been looking at it going up the lift for so long i feel like i need to hit it at some point
 
It’s not rocket science. I’ve slid across the roofs of resort vehicles, lift gates, electric boxes, busy resort roads, and just about every out of bounds area at my hill. And never got caught once.
 
14311985:weastcoast said:
It’s not rocket science. I’ve slid across the roofs of resort vehicles, lift gates, electric boxes, busy resort roads, and just about every out of bounds area at my hill. And never got caught once.
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7 springs is quite a bit bigger than roundtop though. Ski patrol are never very far away. Its tricky on a mtn with 12 trails lol

i guess i could have some friends scout out for patrol while i wait at the top so i dont get caught
 
Bit of devil's advocate here, did you ever look at it in the summer? Maybe there is a reason for it to be closed that you are unaware of, that could potentially cause worse consequences than loosing your pass.

I'm not really familiar with East Coast hills, but ski patrol main job is not to be annoying but to secure the mountain, 95% of the time they have a very valid reason to do what they do that you might not realize.
 
Steal all the signs that say the area is out of bounds and then if you get caught claim ignorance and say that you didn't see any closed sgins
 
14312003:colorado_frenchy said:
Bit of devil's advocate here, did you ever look at it in the summer? Maybe there is a reason for it to be closed that you are unaware of, that could potentially cause worse consequences than loosing your pass.

I'm not really familiar with East Coast hills, but ski patrol main job is not to be annoying but to secure the mountain, 95% of the time they have a very valid reason to do what they do that you might not realize.
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You make a great point. I’ve seen it in the summer and there is a sizeable boulder field about 50ft after the drop, but with enough snow I’ve seen people have skied over it. There aren’t any big risks that a confident and skilled skier couldnt overcome

This mountain also clips kids passes for skiing in the trees between trails so i think that they are just super against out of bounds skiing for some reason
 
Help me out here, why do east coast kids want to duck ropes so bad? Do people think patrol just wants to keep all the secret freshies in the shitty trees between groomers to themselves?
 
14312030:Biffbarf said:
Help me out here, why do east coast kids want to duck ropes so bad? Do people think patrol just wants to keep all the secret freshies in the shitty trees between groomers to themselves?
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Because that’s most mtns only freshies. The trees or lift lines. People out west think their hills are over groomed yet here most places groom every inch and the few areas they dont are skied off in half a hour
 
14312032:WoFlowz said:
Because that’s most mtns only freshies. The trees or lift lines. People out west think their hills are over groomed yet here most places groom every inch and the few areas they dont are skied off in half a hour
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Do you think there's really good enough coverage though? Like shit I see morons here duck ropes between groomers just to do falling leaf turns over rocks and deadfall. Like sick dude you found the stash.
 
14312033:Biffbarf said:
Do you think there's really good enough coverage though? Like shit I see morons here duck ropes between groomers just to do falling leaf turns over rocks and deadfall. Like sick dude you found the stash.
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It rly depends tbh. Sometimes the designated glades that are cleared and ropes are dropped by ski patrol have less coverage than just normal trees. But usually if the flattest glades aren’t open at my hill any other trees aren’t ski able. I think it’s more personal judgement
 
14312030:Biffbarf said:
Help me out here, why do east coast kids want to duck ropes so bad? Do people think patrol just wants to keep all the secret freshies in the shitty trees between groomers to themselves?
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We dont really have any backcountry so if you duck ropes you get some gnarlier backcountry-like features in the resort
 
14312036:doubleblackjack said:
We dont really have any backcountry so if you duck ropes you get some gnarlier backcountry-like features in the resort
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I understand. (side note: ungroomed in-bounds terrain isn't necessarily backcountry, bc denotes areas not patrolled that is often public land)

My point is, the worst case scenario of you doing this isn't that you'll get your pass pulled.

The worst case is you're going mach 10 and hit an unmarked obstacle under the snow that ends your season or worse, AND your pass still gets pulled.

If you want to trust the snowpack (which is nearly 100% man made besides a couple feet annually) go for it.

Just please for the love of god don't duck ropes out west, it's marked off for a reason and people die doing it.
 
14312039:Biffbarf said:
I understand. (side note: ungroomed in-bounds terrain isn't necessarily backcountry, bc denotes areas not patrolled that is often public land)

My point is, the worst case scenario of you doing this isn't that you'll get your pass pulled.

The worst case is you're going mach 10 and hit an unmarked obstacle under the snow that ends your season or worse, AND your pass still gets pulled.

If you want to trust the snowpack (which is nearly 100% man made besides a couple feet annually) go for it.

Just please for the love of god don't duck ropes out west, it's marked off for a reason and people die doing it.
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Yeah i totally agree with what your saying. I’ve seen and heard of people hitting it so on a good snow day it should be pretty safe.

yeah avalanches, tree wells, etc kill people. Ducking ropes out west is just dumb and downright reckless if you aren’t 100% sure what your hitting
 
It’s kind of a tough one to hit because ski patrol tends to hang out on that side of the mountain a lot. But if you wanna do it do it early because on a pow day people start skiing under the liftlines there and ski patrol eventually catches on and waits for people in that area
 
14312053:ski_salmon69 said:
It’s kind of a tough one to hit because ski patrol tends to hang out on that side of the mountain a lot. But if you wanna do it do it early because on a pow day people start skiing under the liftlines there and ski patrol eventually catches on and waits for people in that area
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Yeah i heard this one kid got his pass clipped because patrol was literally training on gunbarrel when he hit it lol. They seem to be over by ramrod chair quite a bit
 
14312039:Biffbarf said:
I understand. (side note: ungroomed in-bounds terrain isn't necessarily backcountry, bc denotes areas not patrolled that is often public land)

My point is, the worst case scenario of you doing this isn't that you'll get your pass pulled.

The worst case is you're going mach 10 and hit an unmarked obstacle under the snow that ends your season or worse, AND your pass still gets pulled.

If you want to trust the snowpack (which is nearly 100% man made besides a couple feet annually) go for it.

Just please for the love of god don't duck ropes out west, it's marked off for a reason and people die doing it.
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153inches and a natural base in the trees into April in wny on a 750ft tall hill* trust ur man made snowpack
 
14312069:Biffbarf said:
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Here's roundtop last year. Yeah dude trust.
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I’d hit it if the depth got to 2 feet on the line preferably after some decent natural snowfall

I was planning to try it this last season but the snow wasn’t favorable for it. Some kids still sent it tho

oh and those stats are wrong. The base depth definitely exceeded 4 feet at the base and maybe 3 feet at the summit. We also got around 6-8 inches in a storm.

**This post was edited on Aug 15th 2021 at 10:37:06pm
 
used to pull this shit all the time growing up trying to hit stupid shit under the lifts at sunday river. Drop a glove or something and go retrieve it. then send. prob not gonna prevent getting you in trouble but fuck it. or wait till the very last chair and hide out in the woods till the mountain clears out then send.
 
14312070:doubleblackjack said:
I’d hit it if the depth got to 2 feet on the line preferably after some decent natural snowfall

I was planning to try it this last season but the snow wasn’t favorable for it. Some kids still sent it tho

oh and those stats are wrong. The base depth definitely exceeded 4 feet at the base and maybe 3 feet at the summit. We also got around 6-8 inches in a storm.

**This post was edited on Aug 15th 2021 at 10:37:06pm
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Yeah that’s def not right it was actually a decent snow year last season except for January
 
14312078:methscratchface said:
used to pull this shit all the time growing up trying to hit stupid shit under the lifts at sunday river. Drop a glove or something and go retrieve it. then send. prob not gonna prevent getting you in trouble but fuck it. or wait till the very last chair and hide out in the woods till the mountain clears out then send.
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Damn those are some solid techniques. I was thinking something along the lines of 10+ good skiers train down it, book it to the lift, then ride the lift up and scatter across the mountain. They cant catch all of us right? Maybe dump your jacket in the woods somewhere in the process so they cant spot you
 
Gaslight, gaslight, gaslight:

- “bro I dropped something from the chair and had to go get it, like am I not allowed to retrieve my personal belongings??”

-“y’all need to mark the closed areas better, I accidentally got lost trying to ski some trees and now my skis are scuffed.”

- “what you didn’t know everyone hits that spot? You’ve fr been working here for years and you’ve never dropped that cliff? Dawg are you even a local? They just let anyone work here huh?”

- “Bro it’s your own fault, maybe if your resort didn’t suck so bad I wouldn’t have to ski loses areas?”
 
Hahahaha. I’m 98% sure people do this just to tell their friends they found a secret powder stash. Meanwhile the entire experience was miserable.

14312033:Biffbarf said:
Do you think there's really good enough coverage though? Like shit I see morons here duck ropes between groomers just to do falling leaf turns over rocks and deadfall. Like sick dude you found the stash.
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14312030:Biffbarf said:
Help me out here, why do east coast kids want to duck ropes so bad? Do people think patrol just wants to keep all the secret freshies in the shitty trees between groomers to themselves?
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My entire hill is groomers except for like 2 runs which are sheer ice from beginners sliding down them sideways. The ONLY time I’m finding non groomed/non icy terrain is if I go out of bounds or if it dumped 4 inches that morning. Hell, most of the “out of bounds” areas are icy/crud because people ski them so often.
 
yo get ur pass taken. Honestly there is nothing more core than letting vail know that you will give them money to disrespect them. I’m actually in for sending them an open letter that’s basically hate speech demanding nothing from them.
 
send that shit and lean back on ur skis to clear the stuff under the snow in the landing, then just hold that wheelie all the way to the parking lot, hop in ur car and drive away. Make sure someone films
 
I didn't read anything, but you could buy a day pass and just drop the cliff and if your pass gets pulled its just a day pass. Granted that is expensive, but its not your season pass. Orrrr, you could give your season pass to a homie and have him hold it and tell him to go a different route down. Of course get another homie to film and drop it. Then they can't take any pass.
 
14312540:Zurg said:
Orrrr, you could give your season pass to a homie and have him hold it and tell him to go a different route down. Of course get another homie to film and drop it. Then they can't take any pass.
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Then they can press charges instead
 
Have a getaway vehicle at the bottom of the hill prepared. Preferably a pickup truck, backed in such that you can ski right into the bed. Don't wear your normal kit, try not to get your pass scanned on the way up so that they can't claim you were there the day of the incident. Cover license plates on getaway vehicle with snow. Carry smoke bombs as a last resort escape. Maybe have a breakaway jacket and pants so that you can rip em off and then be unrecognizable. Best of luck.
 
14312582:jompcock said:
Have a getaway vehicle at the bottom of the hill prepared. Preferably a pickup truck, backed in such that you can ski right into the bed. Don't wear your normal kit, try not to get your pass scanned on the way up so that they can't claim you were there the day of the incident. Cover license plates on getaway vehicle with snow. Carry smoke bombs as a last resort escape. Maybe have a breakaway jacket and pants so that you can rip em off and then be unrecognizable. Best of luck.
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Fuckin mission impossible. I’d pay to see this done
 
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