Get that Tanner werewolf thing off the front page

yeahno

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I really am getting sick of seeing Tanner ripping a dart when I log in to ns. Can we just get that outta here?
 
Agreed, the entire story is annoying and bs, some random tweet about a gray beanie and blonde hair, and a picture of him off google with a gray beanie and blonde hair
 
topic:Teafast said:
I really am getting sick of seeing Tanner ripping a dart when I log in to ns. Can we just get that outta here?

We have been allowing the community to decide what goes into the homepage slider. For whatever reason, that got a bunch of upvotes.

Should we stop that?
 
I will say, I enjoyed that more than a lot of the news that has been getting posted.

Seems like it's been sort of spammy lately in the news section lately.
 
13582097:Mr.Bishop said:
We have been allowing the community to decide what goes into the homepage slider. For whatever reason, that got a bunch of upvotes.

Should we stop that?

I don't trust the voting majority of NS. Do you?
 
13582167:Mingg said:
I will say, I enjoyed that more than a lot of the news that has been getting posted.

Seems like it's been sort of spammy lately in the news section lately.

Agreed. It's a bit of a shitshow.
 
13582167:Mingg said:
I will say, I enjoyed that more than a lot of the news that has been getting posted.

Seems like it's been sort of spammy lately in the news section lately.

Examples?

13582209:Teafast said:
I don't trust the voting majority of NS. Do you?

Actually yes I do. I have strongly believed for a long time that the general public has the right to vote on what is popular and what isn't. That is our ethos.

If people are feeling that that isn't working out and we should start really cracking down and only allowing a few of us to decide what is cool and what isn't I mean I guess we could take a look at it.
 
13582210:Teafast said:
Agreed. It's a bit of a shitshow.

It was worse in Oct/Nov but I remember reading some stuff and I was like wtf? Are you the weather man or something? I can get this shit from the local newspaper, show me something new. Tell me what you're doing with your life. I don't wanna read some generic article about the fucking weather... I'd rather read unique stories about shit I guess. But that's a discussion for a different thread haha.

It has gotten much better though the past few weeks so I shouldn't complain about it though haha.
 
13582217:Mr.Bishop said:
Examples?

eh, I made a mistake haha. I was thinking back to some stuff from like Sept/October. I can't think of any specific examples but I remember getting a spammy/ posting for views kind of vibe. Or many just posting to post because there wasn't much going on. It really doesn't matter anymore, I shouldn't have said that haha.

But I do like more opinion based stuff and hearing about cool things going on and I haven't seen a whole lot of that lately so I'm a tad bit salty. I remember last year reading a lot of that, it was so sick. But scrolling through real quick, the stuff being posted lately has been great.
 
13582217:Mr.Bishop said:
Examples?

If people are feeling that that isn't working out and we should start really cracking down and only allowing a few of us to decide what is cool and what isn't I mean I guess we could take a look at it.

I was sorta joking but I mean I just think there are some cases when the first thing you see when you log in to NS shouldn't be some 40 year old ripping a cig up close and personal
 
13582230:Teafast said:
I was sorta joking but I mean I just think there are some cases when the first thing you see when you log in to NS shouldn't be some 40 year old ripping a cig up close and personal

It's a top rated article, get over it dude.
 
13582252:Teafast said:
I am. It's gone from existence. I just saw it a bunch in 24-36 hours and i got mad and made a thread.

Here's a wuestion - would you prefer a more curated experience?

We were skiing's original social media and that is what we're based around right now. We could curate the news more if we wanted to and the tastes of the community can be ignored in favor of our edit staff.
 
13582230:Teafast said:
I was sorta joking but I mean I just think there are some cases when the first thing you see when you log in to NS shouldn't be some 40 year old ripping a cig up close and personal

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13582371:Mr.Bishop said:
Here's a wuestion - would you prefer a more curated experience?

We were skiing's original social media and that is what we're based around right now. We could curate the news more if we wanted to and the tastes of the community can be ignored in favor of our edit staff.

No, please don't (: (:
 
13582567:Mingg said:
No, please don't (: (:

Yeah I mean that is sort of where I'm at... though I constantly get complaints about the 'views of the communty' when its different from what a person likes.

We may add a little more weight to the senior editor's votes or something like that, so there is a sprinkle of curation mixed into an otherwise normal voting system. SOmething like that.
 
13582592:Mr.Bishop said:
Yeah I mean that is sort of where I'm at... though I constantly get complaints about the 'views of the communty' when its different from what a person likes.

We may add a little more weight to the senior editor's votes or something like that, so there is a sprinkle of curation mixed into an otherwise normal voting system. SOmething like that.

Yeahhh. People get really defensive about their views and like I don't know if that's a new thing or if I'm just noticing it now.. but a lot of people act like you're the devil if you don't agree. To an extent it's hilarious but also a little concerning.

I think a lot of people spend too much time formulating their views on what something SHOULD be, instead of going out and actually making it what it should be.
 
potentially have member submitted content separate from staff/contributor submitted content

eg, twig and tom always submit sweet articles that can disappear kinda quickly around other content

i did like it when there were different trending lists for news, videos, photos etc
 
13582592:Mr.Bishop said:
Yeah I mean that is sort of where I'm at... though I constantly get complaints about the 'views of the communty' when its different from what a person likes.

We may add a little more weight to the senior editor's votes or something like that, so there is a sprinkle of curation mixed into an otherwise normal voting system. SOmething like that.

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13582619:Mingg said:
Yeahhh. People get really defensive about their views and like I don't know if that's a new thing or if I'm just noticing it now.. but a lot of people act like you're the devil if you don't agree. To an extent it's hilarious but also a little concerning.

I think a lot of people spend too much time formulating their views on what something SHOULD be, instead of going out and actually making it what it should be.

political correctness i tell ya hwhat.
 
13582899:.Roockley. said:
potentially have member submitted content separate from staff/contributor submitted content

eg, twig and tom always submit sweet articles that can disappear kinda quickly around other content

i did like it when there were different trending lists for news, videos, photos etc

Yeah again - we really felt strongly to put staff content in the same place as regular members, so that anyone is open for a chance.

Hell - that is how we found Tom, Twig, Sam, Sklar, Jamie, Erica, Cy, Erika - and everyone else making up the current content team. That is something really important to not forget in all this... the fact that we opened it up to everyone and allowed everyone to post in the same place is the reason we ever found our current content team.

If we hadn't done that it'd be basically me and Schmuck deciding what was cool. Any of you who had an opportunity would have had to send us an article which would likely have never been published, and frankly would probably get ignored in an email backlog and we'd only hire homies we met through friends.

So there are significant upsides to the open, mixed system which we shouldn't so easily discount.
 
13583595:Mr.Bishop said:
Yeah again - we really felt strongly to put staff content in the same place as regular members, so that anyone is open for a chance.

Hell - that is how we found Tom, Twig, Sam, Sklar, Jamie, Erica, Cy, Erika - and everyone else making up the current content team. That is something really important to not forget in all this... the fact that we opened it up to everyone and allowed everyone to post in the same place is the reason we ever found our current content team.

If we hadn't done that it'd be basically me and Schmuck deciding what was cool. Any of you who had an opportunity would have had to send us an article which would likely have never been published, and frankly would probably get ignored in an email backlog and we'd only hire homies we met through friends.

So there are significant upsides to the open, mixed system which we shouldn't so easily discount.

good points i see where you're coming from, i guess its only rare occurrences that random shit gets on the front page, just still kinda irks me when i see it though

maybe a staff recommended list could work kinda like vimeo staff picks?
 
13583607:.Roockley. said:
good points i see where you're coming from, i guess its only rare occurrences that random shit gets on the front page, just still kinda irks me when i see it though

maybe a staff recommended list could work kinda like vimeo staff picks?

What's wrong with non staff stuff being on the front page? It only gets to the front page if the community votes it there...
 
13583607:.Roockley. said:
good points i see where you're coming from, i guess its only rare occurrences that random shit gets on the front page, just still kinda irks me when i see it though

maybe a staff recommended list could work kinda like vimeo staff picks?

I mean the logic I'm going on right now is that the occasional off-brand post is a tolerable side effect of having an open system - which has so many benefits.

The problem is you can't go too far with holding down the people's voice, if you want to find all the new hot talent out of the people. That is the conundrum we face. Right now, we're sticking with the idea that we keep it open because the positives outweigh the negatives.

As we build up more of an elite team of content creators perhaps we'll have some ability to do staff picks, features, etc. I still really want to make sure though that the average person gets a crack at it.

Hell, right now one photo/article can lead you down the path of a ski industry media career. Videos are a bit more competitive, but same deal really - the people who start participating are really rapidly becoming players in this industry.
 
13583649:Mr.Bishop said:
I mean the logic I'm going on right now is that the occasional off-brand post is a tolerable side effect of having an open system - which has so many benefits.

The problem is you can't go too far with holding down the people's voice, if you want to find all the new hot talent out of the people. That is the conundrum we face. Right now, we're sticking with the idea that we keep it open because the positives outweigh the negatives.

As we build up more of an elite team of content creators perhaps we'll have some ability to do staff picks, features, etc. I still really want to make sure though that the average person gets a crack at it.

Hell, right now one photo/article can lead you down the path of a ski industry media career. Videos are a bit more competitive, but same deal really - the people who start participating are really rapidly becoming players in this industry.

Yeah, as a product of this I fully agree. I now get to eat because I wrote a few articles on NS, and arguably my initial ones were "off-brand" or not the type of stuff you would expect to see on the home page. If you want heavily moderated, edited news go to literally any other skiing news site. If you want raw, homegrown, original content, keep coming back to NS.

Of course I'm all in favor of the content team critiquing and editing work, but anything that hurts this open system is a big no in my book.

Off topic, but I feel like that Tanner article is reasonably #onbrand anyway....
 
13583623:eheath said:
What's wrong with non staff stuff being on the front page? It only gets to the front page if the community votes it there...

nothing wrong with it. If the staff find something that stands out they can give it that chance instead of someone potentially missing it. much like videos on vimeo that i wouldn't have watched otherwise
 
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