George Bush...
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Shpadoinkle
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sorry, forgot a paragraph.
wait, didn't clinton have osama in his grasp? wait! didn't he sit like 2 feet away from him? clinton coulda choked that bitch and bitch slapped his ass all the way to china town. now bush...didn't we go to afghanistan to try and take out al qaeda? i think that is doing something. at least bush was the balls to actually do something. that's what happens in war...people die! what? did you think it was all jam and butter? or a "let them eat cake" moment? and how can you not piss of someone in war? "i am going to kill you now!" "uhhhh ok, that's perfectly fine with me." i don't think so, hunny bunny. and it just so happens that a bunch if God-fearing christians run the country. you decide who is in the government, so go make a difference.
now, the UN. the UN is a load of shit. it's basically a club or a conference like the one i went to in atlanta last month. needless to say...it was a COMPLETE waste of time. all a bunch of hippies if you ask me. peace is always good but it's not always the answer. and some laws need bending because they aren't working for the current situation. you can't work around them.
wait, didn't clinton have osama in his grasp? wait! didn't he sit like 2 feet away from him? clinton coulda choked that bitch and bitch slapped his ass all the way to china town. now bush...didn't we go to afghanistan to try and take out al qaeda? i think that is doing something. at least bush was the balls to actually do something. that's what happens in war...people die! what? did you think it was all jam and butter? or a "let them eat cake" moment? and how can you not piss of someone in war? "i am going to kill you now!" "uhhhh ok, that's perfectly fine with me." i don't think so, hunny bunny. and it just so happens that a bunch if God-fearing christians run the country. you decide who is in the government, so go make a difference.
now, the UN. the UN is a load of shit. it's basically a club or a conference like the one i went to in atlanta last month. needless to say...it was a COMPLETE waste of time. all a bunch of hippies if you ask me. peace is always good but it's not always the answer. and some laws need bending because they aren't working for the current situation. you can't work around them.
TheButterHashira
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george bush has coined the most words of any president in history. that has to be worth something
Shpadoinkle
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like as in make up words?
Shpadoinkle
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it's the internet. sorry i can't read the sarcasm on your faces.
Shpadoinkle
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i must be stupid. maybe autistic. i can't even look into your eyes. i am unable.
JaphyRyder
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bush should be hung from his ears for the rest of his life with large crabs pinching his nuts and bees stinging his chest and a horse sitting above him shitting and pissing all day. and we feed the horse mexican food.
PurpleSkier
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How old are you? seriously. You sound like a 16 year old girl who hasn't had to work for anything in her life and just assumes other people are going to do the dirty work. "It's war. people die" or however eloquently you said it, what makes you think it's okay for Americas youth in the armed forces should be sent to a country to slowly waste away? Are all of those lives worth fighting a fight that can't be won with a traditional army? you should go suck on that .38 sooner than later.
TheButterHashira
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no i actually meant that during his presidency the most new coins have come out excuse me. i wasnt talking about him making up words
Shpadoinkle
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i'm 19. i haven't had to really work for anything. i'm middle class, but if i were lower class then i'm sure i would be working my ass off. i don't have a career. i am a student. i am a good student. i read. i study hard. i have a good paying job for right now.
bush i doing the dirty work. alot of people are doing the dirty work. i admire them for it. i'm glad they are and i don't have that burden, but if i had to do it i would.
it is war. people do die. i hate war. i want peace. but i don't want to live in fear. i want to know that my president is protecting me. i want to know that my friend mike and my friend marcel are protecting me. that is what they want to do and i admire them for it. i hate that they are over there. i miss them and i worry about them all the time. i wish they were home and i wish we were playing tennis again like we did during high school. our boys decided to go. we are in a draft.
i seriously don't know what you boys want. i can't even begin to see what you want. instead of critisizing, maybe you should make up a plan and post it on NS and go back and forth. then if it good you should email your governor and president. use your voice people and don't complain without doing anything.
bush i doing the dirty work. alot of people are doing the dirty work. i admire them for it. i'm glad they are and i don't have that burden, but if i had to do it i would.
it is war. people do die. i hate war. i want peace. but i don't want to live in fear. i want to know that my president is protecting me. i want to know that my friend mike and my friend marcel are protecting me. that is what they want to do and i admire them for it. i hate that they are over there. i miss them and i worry about them all the time. i wish they were home and i wish we were playing tennis again like we did during high school. our boys decided to go. we are in a draft.
i seriously don't know what you boys want. i can't even begin to see what you want. instead of critisizing, maybe you should make up a plan and post it on NS and go back and forth. then if it good you should email your governor and president. use your voice people and don't complain without doing anything.
Rez4frederick
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Heres a list of all the corrupt worthless excuses for a human being who have resigned from office during the bush fiasco. Pretty crazy, funny how only a couple are really even mentioned in the news......sigh
Alberto Gonzales: Resigned, August 2007
The loss of Gonzales, the Attorney General since 2005 and one of
Bush's closest friends, is one of the biggest blows to the President.
Reflecting on Gonzales's resignation, effective next month, Bush said
that his friend's "good name was dragged through the mud for political
reasons". A controversial figure in Washington, Gonzales had become
embroiled in a bitter row over the sacking of eight US prosecutors.
Karl Rove: Resigned, August 2007
As a student, the committed Republican Rove invited Chicago vagrants
to drink free beer at a plush Democrat reception. Often dubbed "the
brains behind Bush", the Deputy Chief of Staff has continued to be
dogged by controversy, most recently being implicated in the Valerie
Plame CIA "outing" affair. He leaves at the end of the week, after 14
years, citing family reasons for his departure.
Dan Bartlett: Resigned, June 2007
One of Bush's longest-serving and most loyal aides, Bartlett has
been described as being like a son to the President, whose
gubernatorial campaign he worked on in 1994. After rising through the
ranks to become President Bush's communications director, Bartlett, 36,
resigned to spend more time with his young family.
Paul Wolfowitz: Resigned, June 2007
A key architect of the neoconservatism that has defined Bush's
presidency, Wolfowitz was one of the key supporters of the invasion of
Iraq, making his 2005 appointment as President of the World Bank deeply
unpopular with those who had opposed it. He was forced to step down in
June over the part he played in awarding a huge pay-rise to his
partner, a former World Bank employee.
Harriet Miers: Resigned, January 2007
Bush's most senior lawyer had been a loyal adviser since the 1980s,
and the President put her forward for the position of Associate Justice
of the US Supreme Court in 2005. But, under pressure from Democrats and
conservative law-makers unhappy at her credentials, he later withdrew
her nomination, saying she had asked him to do so. Miers resigned her
post as White House counsel earlier this year.
John Bolton: Resigned, December 2006
Only President Bush would choose a man like Bolton to be the US
envoy to the UN. The hardline lawyer, whose 2005 appointment raised
eyebrows among both Republicans and Democrats, once said there was "no
such thing" as the UN and called the US the world's "only real power".
Accused of bullying his subordinates and abusing access to
intelligence, he stepped down in December.
Donald Rumsfeld: Retired, December 2006
As the mastermind behind the "shock and awe" strategy in the Iraq
war, and Bush's most prominent ally in his war on terror, Secretary of
Defense Rumsfeld's position became untenable when his reputation was
tarnished by the state of affairs in Iraq. He is writing his memoirs.
Andrew Card: Resigned, March 2006
Card had served Bush for 15 years at the time of his resignation.
Once said to have been asked by his wife: "Are you married to me or
George Bush?", he was the aide seen informing a dumbstruck President
about the 9/11 attacks during a visit to a Florida elementary school.
Card apparently resigned his position as White House Chief of Staff
after becoming disillusioned with the Iraq war, fearing it would be
seen as another Vietnam.
Lewis 'Scooter' Libby: Resigned, October 2005
The Chief of Staff to Vice-President Dick Cheney, and former Bush
aide, was sentenced to two-and-a-half years last June for perjury and
obstruction of justice. Libby had lied about his attempt in 2003 to
leak information to a New York Times journalist, leading to the
identification of the CIA agent Valerie Plame, whose husband was a
critic of the Iraq war.
John Ashcroft: Resigned, 2004
Bush's Attorney General after the 2000 election, Ashcroft became the
first high-profile departure after the President won a second term in
2004. Staunchly religious and anti-abortion, his appointment was a
reward for the religious right's support. He was a key supporter of the
controversial post-September 11 Patriot Act.
Colin Powell: Resigned, 2004
Since his resignation, the former Secretary of State has become
increasingly critical of the Bush administration and the conduct of
troops and treatment of detainees in Iraq. The former military leader
was appointed to the State Department in 2001, where he frequently
clashed with Cheney and Rumsfeld, who favoured a more belligerent
approach in the run-up to the Iraq War.
Ari Fleischer: Resigned, 2003
Inducted into Bush's camp a year before the 2000 election, Fleischer
became a household name thanks to his daily press briefings after the
September 11 attacks. The White House Press Secretary reportedly had an
uneasy relationship with both his press corps and Bush's cabinet, but
claimed a desire to spend more time with his family, which he did in
July 2003.
Alberto Gonzales: Resigned, August 2007
The loss of Gonzales, the Attorney General since 2005 and one of
Bush's closest friends, is one of the biggest blows to the President.
Reflecting on Gonzales's resignation, effective next month, Bush said
that his friend's "good name was dragged through the mud for political
reasons". A controversial figure in Washington, Gonzales had become
embroiled in a bitter row over the sacking of eight US prosecutors.
Karl Rove: Resigned, August 2007
As a student, the committed Republican Rove invited Chicago vagrants
to drink free beer at a plush Democrat reception. Often dubbed "the
brains behind Bush", the Deputy Chief of Staff has continued to be
dogged by controversy, most recently being implicated in the Valerie
Plame CIA "outing" affair. He leaves at the end of the week, after 14
years, citing family reasons for his departure.
Dan Bartlett: Resigned, June 2007
One of Bush's longest-serving and most loyal aides, Bartlett has
been described as being like a son to the President, whose
gubernatorial campaign he worked on in 1994. After rising through the
ranks to become President Bush's communications director, Bartlett, 36,
resigned to spend more time with his young family.
Paul Wolfowitz: Resigned, June 2007
A key architect of the neoconservatism that has defined Bush's
presidency, Wolfowitz was one of the key supporters of the invasion of
Iraq, making his 2005 appointment as President of the World Bank deeply
unpopular with those who had opposed it. He was forced to step down in
June over the part he played in awarding a huge pay-rise to his
partner, a former World Bank employee.
Harriet Miers: Resigned, January 2007
Bush's most senior lawyer had been a loyal adviser since the 1980s,
and the President put her forward for the position of Associate Justice
of the US Supreme Court in 2005. But, under pressure from Democrats and
conservative law-makers unhappy at her credentials, he later withdrew
her nomination, saying she had asked him to do so. Miers resigned her
post as White House counsel earlier this year.
John Bolton: Resigned, December 2006
Only President Bush would choose a man like Bolton to be the US
envoy to the UN. The hardline lawyer, whose 2005 appointment raised
eyebrows among both Republicans and Democrats, once said there was "no
such thing" as the UN and called the US the world's "only real power".
Accused of bullying his subordinates and abusing access to
intelligence, he stepped down in December.
Donald Rumsfeld: Retired, December 2006
As the mastermind behind the "shock and awe" strategy in the Iraq
war, and Bush's most prominent ally in his war on terror, Secretary of
Defense Rumsfeld's position became untenable when his reputation was
tarnished by the state of affairs in Iraq. He is writing his memoirs.
Andrew Card: Resigned, March 2006
Card had served Bush for 15 years at the time of his resignation.
Once said to have been asked by his wife: "Are you married to me or
George Bush?", he was the aide seen informing a dumbstruck President
about the 9/11 attacks during a visit to a Florida elementary school.
Card apparently resigned his position as White House Chief of Staff
after becoming disillusioned with the Iraq war, fearing it would be
seen as another Vietnam.
Lewis 'Scooter' Libby: Resigned, October 2005
The Chief of Staff to Vice-President Dick Cheney, and former Bush
aide, was sentenced to two-and-a-half years last June for perjury and
obstruction of justice. Libby had lied about his attempt in 2003 to
leak information to a New York Times journalist, leading to the
identification of the CIA agent Valerie Plame, whose husband was a
critic of the Iraq war.
John Ashcroft: Resigned, 2004
Bush's Attorney General after the 2000 election, Ashcroft became the
first high-profile departure after the President won a second term in
2004. Staunchly religious and anti-abortion, his appointment was a
reward for the religious right's support. He was a key supporter of the
controversial post-September 11 Patriot Act.
Colin Powell: Resigned, 2004
Since his resignation, the former Secretary of State has become
increasingly critical of the Bush administration and the conduct of
troops and treatment of detainees in Iraq. The former military leader
was appointed to the State Department in 2001, where he frequently
clashed with Cheney and Rumsfeld, who favoured a more belligerent
approach in the run-up to the Iraq War.
Ari Fleischer: Resigned, 2003
Inducted into Bush's camp a year before the 2000 election, Fleischer
became a household name thanks to his daily press briefings after the
September 11 attacks. The White House Press Secretary reportedly had an
uneasy relationship with both his press corps and Bush's cabinet, but
claimed a desire to spend more time with his family, which he did in
July 2003.
Nasty_Napes
Member
...your fucking retarded
P1) They are two different things, yes! So please tell me why we invaded and restructured the country instead of devoting our resources to rooting out Al Qaeda...?
P2) The IQ remark was what I call a snide remark. Think of it like a joke... or not. Glad you mentioned the whole lying under oath thing, Bush's administration has been MUCH more cooperative with our legal system. Except for Cheney. And Rumsfeld. And Rove. And Gonzalez. And the whole Guantanamo thing. And wiretapping. Wow, you're right, Clinton made out justice system out to be a joke compared to Bush!
And yes, all the news networks must be lying, I would love to hear whats really happening in Iraq instead of the bullshit about insurgencies and civil wars I keep hearing about. Please, enlighten us all on whats 'really' going on.
P3) Waffling? What the fuck, are you making breakfast over there? How about adapting to changing issues instead of taking the bullheaded assanine approach to every situation? I would much rather have leaders that adapt to a changing world rather than assholes who force their views on the rest of it.
Lastly, I'm not turning this into a religious debate, so save that for later. Just let it be known that Christianity has probably killed more in the name of their savior than any other religion over the course of human existence. You cannot simply say any one religion is more fucked up, bloodthirsty or barbaric than another.
And I dunno about you, but I get my Right off with Michael Savage and Rush.
P2) The IQ remark was what I call a snide remark. Think of it like a joke... or not. Glad you mentioned the whole lying under oath thing, Bush's administration has been MUCH more cooperative with our legal system. Except for Cheney. And Rumsfeld. And Rove. And Gonzalez. And the whole Guantanamo thing. And wiretapping. Wow, you're right, Clinton made out justice system out to be a joke compared to Bush!
And yes, all the news networks must be lying, I would love to hear whats really happening in Iraq instead of the bullshit about insurgencies and civil wars I keep hearing about. Please, enlighten us all on whats 'really' going on.
P3) Waffling? What the fuck, are you making breakfast over there? How about adapting to changing issues instead of taking the bullheaded assanine approach to every situation? I would much rather have leaders that adapt to a changing world rather than assholes who force their views on the rest of it.
Lastly, I'm not turning this into a religious debate, so save that for later. Just let it be known that Christianity has probably killed more in the name of their savior than any other religion over the course of human existence. You cannot simply say any one religion is more fucked up, bloodthirsty or barbaric than another.
And I dunno about you, but I get my Right off with Michael Savage and Rush.
Wait, isnt that Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand? Oh yeah, we actually sold that dude weapons back in the day! Funny how times change...
Hey, I love scrabble!
TheButterHashira
Active member
he was our buddy. what a fucking back stabber
You're right, fuck Rumsfeld, traitor.
SwitchMahFuckah
Member
Haha dude your such a tool.
TheButterHashira
Active member
yeah i know what a fucking prick
bemmis
Active member
Shpadoinkle
Active member
oh well. this is all a bunch of bullshit. you can pick and complain about at all the things you want. just suck it up. or you can do something about it. bush is in term right now. i think you'll live until the next election, but for right now i am going to stand behind my president. that's what the people are supposed to do. if you don't like it. leave. that's the simplest answer. fuck! move to whistler. or nepal. or new zealand. no one is making you stay.
we all have different views. i am southern. i have extremely different views than a new yorker or someone from cali. but why do you have to blame your president for everything.
just stop complaining. it gets you nowhere.
we all have different views. i am southern. i have extremely different views than a new yorker or someone from cali. but why do you have to blame your president for everything.
just stop complaining. it gets you nowhere.
Worst.NS.Member
Member
My god at first I was pretty intolerant of mountain girl bashing, but after reading I'm going to say this as eloquently as I can:
Mountaingirl, you are the 100 million people who got us where we are today.
All you crazy warmongering, super-jesus-chick toolbags need to go form your own union, because you're screwing ours all to hell and I'm damn tired of it.
Why should we in New England be led around by the votes of a bunch of ignorant southerners? Hell, let the south rise again, you can keep that shit.
Mountaingirl, you are the 100 million people who got us where we are today.
All you crazy warmongering, super-jesus-chick toolbags need to go form your own union, because you're screwing ours all to hell and I'm damn tired of it.
Why should we in New England be led around by the votes of a bunch of ignorant southerners? Hell, let the south rise again, you can keep that shit.
Worst.NS.Member
Member
And by the way, if it were easy to leave, trust me, many of us would've. If you wanna give me $400,000 to move all my stuff, or sell it all, and start fresh in another country, be my guest. But until you do, that BS 'love it or leave it' thing is moot..
If george bush shot your mom in the face, would you stand by him for that because Hes 'your president'? THIS WAR HAS KILLED NEARLY A MILLION IRAQIS. I dont care if the president was Brad Pitt or Jessica Alba, anyone who has that much blood on their hands is not someone I want to stick by.
If george bush shot your mom in the face, would you stand by him for that because Hes 'your president'? THIS WAR HAS KILLED NEARLY A MILLION IRAQIS. I dont care if the president was Brad Pitt or Jessica Alba, anyone who has that much blood on their hands is not someone I want to stick by.
Shpadoinkle
Active member
someones a wittle bit bitter. i'm sorry you feel that way. i'm sorry that we screwed you over.
but we lost the war. we can't win it back. i don't see it rising again, but you sound as though it did.
i'm christian, but i'm not gonna force my views and my God down your throat. i don't even go to church. i try to pray everyday, but God knows all so I see no need to.
we are very powerful.
i'm so sorry.
isn't your god, clinton, from arkansas?
but we lost the war. we can't win it back. i don't see it rising again, but you sound as though it did.
i'm christian, but i'm not gonna force my views and my God down your throat. i don't even go to church. i try to pray everyday, but God knows all so I see no need to.
we are very powerful.
i'm so sorry.
isn't your god, clinton, from arkansas?
MitchPee
Active member
I think you would be more comfortable in a dictatorship...maybe YOU should move to a country with one.
People can complain. You have no concept of American citizenry. The point IS to complain if you don't like something. Speak up. That's the whole point of the constitution and the foundation of this country. By the people for the people seems to have lost it's meaning to people like you.
Ironically as "patriotic" as you are your whole formation of opinion is ass-backwards. Complaining is a good thing for this country. If everyone just stopped we would no longer be a partial democracy.
This country has absolutely destroyed the meaning of itself. Today's society no longer can connect with what the ideology of a free country. Freedom isn't just for the individual but for the system. If the founders of this country didn't complain about taxation, oppression, and tyranny this country wouldn't have been formed and you would not be "supporting" your president rather kneeling to your king.
Think about that before you stand up for irony.
People can complain. You have no concept of American citizenry. The point IS to complain if you don't like something. Speak up. That's the whole point of the constitution and the foundation of this country. By the people for the people seems to have lost it's meaning to people like you.
Ironically as "patriotic" as you are your whole formation of opinion is ass-backwards. Complaining is a good thing for this country. If everyone just stopped we would no longer be a partial democracy.
This country has absolutely destroyed the meaning of itself. Today's society no longer can connect with what the ideology of a free country. Freedom isn't just for the individual but for the system. If the founders of this country didn't complain about taxation, oppression, and tyranny this country wouldn't have been formed and you would not be "supporting" your president rather kneeling to your king.
Think about that before you stand up for irony.
See, no you arent. Universal solidarity in a nation does not make for ideal government. A government without critics and checks of balance is, well... thats working pretty great in China right now. Stalin was ahead of the curve and already followed your line of thinking, worked out pretty good for his nation as well, didnt it?
Also, I'm beyond sick of 'like it or GTFO' that I always hear from people defending the presidents actions. If you truly know what it is to love this country, you'd understand that its the critics and dissenters that make this country what it is. Remove them, and why bother having freedom of speech? The logic and principles you use to arrive at this idea completely baffle me.
And why shouldnt we issue blame where blame is due? A president isnt completely infallible, and just like with your beloved Clinton, I feel I want our leaders held accountable for the lies they've spun. Complaining gets you everywhere, our nation without it would cease to be America.
Also, I'm beyond sick of 'like it or GTFO' that I always hear from people defending the presidents actions. If you truly know what it is to love this country, you'd understand that its the critics and dissenters that make this country what it is. Remove them, and why bother having freedom of speech? The logic and principles you use to arrive at this idea completely baffle me.
And why shouldnt we issue blame where blame is due? A president isnt completely infallible, and just like with your beloved Clinton, I feel I want our leaders held accountable for the lies they've spun. Complaining gets you everywhere, our nation without it would cease to be America.
Dammit mitch, I didnt read all the way through. I like your response better!
Shpadoinkle
Active member
nope. not at all. if i didn't like my president i would be just like you guys, but i would actually try to do something about it. complaining and posting on NS and other blogs doesn't get you anywhere. go ahead and complain to your governor or the president. i'm not gonna stop you. i'm just making a suggestion.
i no way did i mean don't complain in general, just don't complain where no one can hear you.
i haven't lost any meaning of the constitution. i was trying to say speak up.
i no way did i mean don't complain in general, just don't complain where no one can hear you.
i haven't lost any meaning of the constitution. i was trying to say speak up.
I think they were both well said. Same point, different ways of expressing it.
Shpadoinkle
Active member
because they don't make any sense and you guys just keep repeating everything. i defend myself, but then you go and talk about the same thing again.
Shpadoinkle
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you are a very intelligent person. instead of doing this in NS, why don't you email your senators? or your representatives?
i think i would have some respect for you if you did.
i think i would have some respect for you if you did.
You act like these guys sit at their computers posting shit on NS as if it has no effect.
Yes, these guys are very intelligent. And I benefit from reading these threads. What is so wrong with posting their thoughts on NS? Hundreds of kids are reading these (hopefully). I have tons of respect for quite of few of these members for sharing their intelligence.
Yes, these guys are very intelligent. And I benefit from reading these threads. What is so wrong with posting their thoughts on NS? Hundreds of kids are reading these (hopefully). I have tons of respect for quite of few of these members for sharing their intelligence.
Haha, oh man... so as long as I agree with the president you'll have respect for me, but otherwise I need to call my senators for you to do so?
How many times have you contacted your governor?
How many times have you contacted your governor?
Shpadoinkle
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i have a lot of liberal friends who are very intelligent.
you guys think that conservatives are like the jedi force and that we will take over your brain. get over yourselves.
you guys think that conservatives are like the jedi force and that we will take over your brain. get over yourselves.