General Advice for Buying, Selling and Trading here on NS

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General Advice


Well after so many kids becoming members on this

site and so many kids deciding to become scumbags and scam kids I figured

i would post the obvious.

1) were all here the use this site because we all love the winter and this

makes us a community

2) 98% of us are skiers which make us an even greater community

3) people work hard for their shit so scamming them and talking their money or

goods is fucking lame

4) karma is a fucking bitch

So before you buy/sell/trade to anyone, just simple ask for some info

which should include but is not limited to

1) name

2) address

3) telephone number of cell/house or both

4) age

5) always ask for a shipping number/tracking number/ receipt

6) ask to get parents involved if they are young

If it is too good to be true then it most likely is so

1) don’t deal with new members

2) always ask for reference of people they have dealt with

3) use the search bar of the member you are dealing with to see if he or she

has been called out

4) don’t read msg and not respond.. its annoying

5) use PayPal, it is the safest way to ensure you get your goods or your money

back

6) if you feel like you are getting scammed don’t wait, call them out, make a

claim on PayPal(you have 45 days I believe to do this)

7) if you don’t feel comfortable buying on here, ask the seller to list it on

eBay for that extra security

8) ask if any other member on this site live by them so that if you get scammed

then you will have someone that will be able to take a visit

9) ask a MOD if the member has any alias

10) if possible get the local police number and call them and ask if they can

make a visit

I have been scammed on here twice and it sucks. I work my ass off for my money,

as most of us do, so when people are scammed sometimes it is hard to to replace

what was stolen.



USE THE FEEDBACK SECTION IN PEOPLE'S PROFILES

TO ADD COMMENTS IF THEY ARE LEGIT OR SHADY.




Good luck with everyone and their sales and I hope that the Scamming goes back

down.

How to make a proper thread





Hey,

My name is Aaron and I am making this thread to help out some people so they can

sell their gear easier. Everyone likes to see what their buying, so

pictures are always a plus when trying to sell stuff here on NS, or anywhere

for that fact. In this tutorial I will show you step how to take pictures

of your gear, how to host the pictures, how to post it on NS and how to

describe your gear. Enjoy!

Step One - Taking pictures

When your taking pictures of your gear you want to get quality clear

pictures. Try to avoid using a camera phone if possible. Set your camera

to high quality for the best resolution. If your like me and on dial-up

you can get away with low quality so upload times are faster. Or if your

good you can use high quality and downsize the pictures. To get the best

pictures make sure there is enough light, but not so much that there's glare

off of your item. For mirrored goggles this can be hard. To create a nice

backdrop for the gear get something square to lay the item on, that is, if your

item is something small like a helmet, goggles, headphones or anything of that

nature. For this example I'll use my chair. Also when taking pictures you

can use a tripod to steady the camera, or rest it on something.

My chair

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My tripod

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After you find something to place the item on get a blanket or curtain that

contrasts the item (i.e. white background black item) I'll use a sheet to

contrast my wisdoms. All you need to do is toss it over the chair and have it

sort of loose on there, or tuck it in, your choice. And Wallah.

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A cheap background!

Next place the item your selling on the chair and centre the camera. Try

not to get glare on it and hold the camera steady (tripod is good, or lay the

camera on something)

First picture the goggles were a bit crooked but it can work. It had no glare

as well and I used a flash.

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Second one was better.

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And last was the back of them.

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Make sure to photograph all sides of the gear, the good parts and the bad (damage,

scratches, edge cracks, etc.) For bigger items like skis stand them up against

a wall and take

pictures of the top sheet and the bases. And if you have bindings take a

few close ups of them. Also stick them together so people can see the

chamber (how much they curve).



Step Two - Description


Here you want to be really specific. The main things to list are the

size, the condition, the year, model, color and brand of the gear your

selling. Also include what comes with what your selling and what condition

it's in (i.e. carrying bag, warranty card, glove liners, etc.)

For example

"I have for sale a pair of Oakley Wisdoms. The frame is a matt black

with a fire iridium lense and they are in perfect condition. There is one small

black scratch about a 3 mm long on the right hand side. The foam is also

in mint condition with zero damage. They come with a carrying bag and a

micro cleaning cloth, works well."

Usually with goggles you don't need to include the year, same with most

clothing. With skis you do. One other important thing to do is list

All of the damage to your goods! People don't like being sold something

that it's as the description lists. If you lie about it and try to sell

something again you'll have a hard time because that person will most likely

tag you on the "Official Good Seller/Buyer List"

Step Three - Title

This is what will catch the attention of buyers. You can take the stupid

root and do "OAKLEY WISDOMS FOR SALE!1!!!one!1!" or do it right.

"Black Oakley Wisdom with Fire Iridium" Something short and

sweet. And I'm not sure if I spelt iridium right, so don't bash me.

And if you have multiple items for sale list the big item first "06/07

Ar6's, and Oakley Wisdoms" and get the other stuff after that. Also

include what you want to do with the item or whether or not you want an

item. FS = for sale FT = for trade WTB = want to buy. Or you can do

a FS/FT meaning you will sell or trade the item.



Step Four - Uploading Pictures and Posting


Due to a much needed update NS is now more user friendly then ever! First

what you do is open up a new thread by clicking "Create Thread" which

is at the top of the page in blue lettering. Make sure you are in the Ski

Equipment forum too. Once you get in here you will find a nice menu with a

bunch of different features. It looks something like this;

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Below the Title line there 10 buttons which can help you do some things.

I'll explain them from left to right.

1) Bold - click this button and type to get bold text, or type what

you want, highlight the text and click this button.

2)Italics - You can use this feature the same way as bold, click

and type or type and highlight. This makes your words slant.

3) Underline - Like the others, and pretty self explanatory.

4) Insert Media - This is one way you can post pictures, I will talk more about

it in the next section.

5) Insert Link (also called hyperlink) - This is a neat button. If you

want to post a link to another website, but in the form of a word you click on

this button. This menu will pop up;

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The mouseover space is the word you want to appear. This word can be

clicked on and it will bring the person to the site you enter in the

"address" space. Make sure you only put in www. not
http://www. The little box before that puts in the http:// for you so you

don't have to. And it works like https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/273181/

6) Insert Special Character or Code - I'm not 100% sure, screw it.

7) Un Link - Dido, mess around it with and find out for yourself.

8) Undo - Undo your last action.

9) Redo - Redo your last action.

10) Remove Format - Use this to remove a format like bold.. I think.

So you can type you description in and make the price or size bold and

underline stuff that you want to emphasize. Also the hyper link button

can be used to give reference to a site with info on your gear, great stuff!

Step Five - Pictures!

This is the key part! Once you have taken your pictures and loaded them

onto your computer you have two choices to get them into your thread. The

first and favored by me, Image Shack.

I) When you have your pictures loaded on your computer go to this site
http://www.imageshack.us/ Once there you will see this menu;

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Click on the "Browse" button to navigate through your computer and

find where your picture is. Once you find it double click and the picture

will start to load. If not click the "host it!" button

below. After it loads this menu will pop up;

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Highlight the last line on that page which I highlighted, this will be your

image link. To do that drag your mouse across to highlight it, right

click and select copy. Then go back to your thread listing and

description and type After that right click and hit paste. Your

image link will appear and then you type after it. Make sure there

are no spaces between the
tags and your picture or it will not

work! That's it for that method. You can do the same thing to post

the rest of your pictures.

The other method is using more of the NS features. It works much the same

way but is all done internally on the site.

ii) You do the same thing as the first method. Unload the pictures onto the

computer. Then you go to your new thread and click that image button I

talked about in the previous step, this menu will appear;

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You will see the same item bar where you can click "Browse" and look

for the picture on your computer. Do this, find it and double

click. Then choose a category. Find one that your item matches.

Next you have to put in a Title for the item, like the item name. Next

there is a optional description box where you can type a description.

After that there are three other ones, photographer, skier, and location, all

of which are optional. The last thing is where you want to send the

picture, to your own private gallery where no one can view or in the public

one, your choice. Once the info is entered you can click "Add

Picture" and your done.

Step Six - Sum It up

This last step isn't a must but it makes it look good. Check your spelling and

grammar! do't tpe like a fuking idiot w/ dub abbreviations. Type

right. Also include your email address if

you wish to. Or if you want just tell people to pm you for questions or

comments if they need to. List the ways you will accept payments such as

PayPal or money order. When the deal is done be sure to go to the

Good/Bad Buyer list and leave some feedback for others to read.

That's about it! It's a lengthy read but that is how you can make a

proper thread to sell your gear. I might have forgotten something which I

will post after if necessary, so check back for updates. If you have any

questions just drop me a pm and I'll see how I can help you. Hope it's

useful, enjoy.

Shipping

So since I buy and sell lots of things, I decided I would

make a sticky (or at least general thread) stating the shipping costs for all

different kinds of ski gear to help transactions on NS run more smoothly.

So, I will state the Item to be shipped, then the approximate price (based on

weight). All prices are assuming: 1) You use USPS, which is far cheaper

than UPS or FedEx in my experience, especially on larger packages 2) You

use the smallest box possible. 3) You are shipping Priority Mail unless

otherwise stated 4) You are not purchasing insurance or tracking. Insurance

is generally $1.50 for every $100 of the content value.

Some shipping points of advice:

1) Do not buy tape or packing materials at the post office, it is more

expensive than any office supply store

2) Do not buy a box from them. If it is a smaller item to be shipped,

they have free boxes. If it helmet sized or bigger, go to the back of a

Walmart, shoe store or liquor store to obtain a quality box.

3) If it is a heavier item like a pair of bindings, use a Flat Rate Box, and it

will always be $9.80

4) Use the smallest box possible. If the box is over 108 inches (= 2W +

2H + length) you will pay a balloon charge of $3-$5 extra

5) Use Airmail when shipping internationally if the total package is below 4

pounds. It is nearly the same amount of time, but substantially cheaper.

Anyway, on to the costs:

Item to be shipped: Skis (with no bindings)

- Inside US, east to west coast: $17-$22

- US to Canada: $27-$31

- US to Europe or Australia - $150 plus (can be much more, as well)

Item to be shipped: Skis with bindings

- Inside US. east to west coast: $22-$28

- US to Canada: $26-$38 (depending on location in both US and Canada, obviously

Florida to Vancouver will cost much more than New York to Toronto)

- US to Europe: honestly, don't bother

Item to be shipped: Goggles

- Inside U.S.: $4.60

- US to Canada: $4-$6 (using Airmail) or $9-$12 (using Priority Mail)

- US to Europe: $7-$10 (Airmail) or $15-$19 (Priority)

- US to Australia/NZ: $11-$14 (Airmail) or $17-$20 (Priority)

Item to be shipped: Bindings

- Inside U.S.: $9.80

- US to Canada: $17-$21 (using Priority Mail)

- US to Europe/Australia/NZ: $38.95(flat rate box)-$60 (Priority without flat

rate box and heavy bindings)

Item to be shipped: Helmet or Poles

-Basically the same as goggles, but add a dollar or two to each catagory

Item to be shipped: Boots

- Inside U.S.: $17-$22

- US to Canada: $28-$32 (using Priority Mail)

- US to Europe/Australia/NZ: $60-$65

Item to be shipped: Jacket or Pants (under 3 lbs, so not heavy down jackets)

- Inside U.S.: $9.80 in a flat rate, or $12-$15 if doesn't fit in flat rate

- US to Canada: $11-$14 (using Airmail) or $18-$24 (using Priority Mail)

- US to Europe: $23-$28 (Airmail) or $32-$40 (Priority)

- US to Australia/NZ: $24-$30 (Airmail) or $33-$45 (Priority)

Anyone who has lots of experience and wants to add things may. Also, if

someone has read through this entire post and still has a question, feel free

to PM me. I hope some find this helpful for reference.
 
just to add, this is something i wrote in a different thread about scamminggreat thread tho, someone sticky this to replace the old one
BUY/SELL/TRADE RESPECTOne of the things that is so special about NS is how tight the community is. Freeskiing is a relatively rare sport and to see a congregation of so many people bonding and interacting over a certain rare sport is an incredible thing to have. Let's not go fuck it up by scamming. The B/S/T forum is a place where I've bought most of my gear and where lots of people entrust their money and information with other NS'ers. Whenever somebody gets scammed it chips away at the amazing community that has been built up around skiing and it lowers members trust in eachother. B/S/T should be a place where everyone can trust one another and where gear can be passed along without issues. Not all of us have lots of money so when someone saves for a long time and gets fucked by some douchebag it really sucks. Now I know scamming will happen everywhere but I just hope you guys will think twice before stealing money or gear from fellow skiers

 
here here papasteeeez!!! ghettoball3r and shredtillurdead please read!!!

lets all be the friendly ns'rs we think we are!
 
Great thread, this will really help the newer members if they are smart enough to read it. I have only made one transaction on the site and all the advice on this thread will really made a transaction go over smoothly. It SUCKS when somebody reads your PM's but doesn't respond to your questions. Good work!
 
Good stuff papa. I think the idea about personal information is fantastic and should be included in every transaction.
 
Great thread! Everyone should read this before buying or selling anything here. Even though most of it is common sense (at least to me it is).
STICKY!!
 
bump to sticky this

and no SAC/TD/WM/Brociety flippage. if you get caught, you will probably be banned. this isnt a site to make giant profits, if you want to do that go on ebay.
 
real good advice... just don't forget about the sac/td/wm flipping that goes on sometimes... not cool, although passing on deals you got + shipping is all good.
 
It's when people haven't fully decided if they want to sell an item. Most often it's when they put something up and wait for an offer they like. In essence they are "feeling" out the market.

And no worries on questions. This isn't NSG people don't tend to get flamed in Site Discussion.
 
Ok first off, thank you so much, I'm looking to sell my old gear (will be making a thread tomorrow) and I really really don't want to fuck it up because the absolute last thing I want to do is screw someone over, so this helps a HUGE amount.

Second, does sticky mean to stick the thread to the top of the thread list? Just a guess
 
If I'm a new seller how can I make sure that buyers aren't scamming me? Because I have a lot of stuff to sell/trade and I don't want to get screwed out of it.
 
Not sure how a buyer can scam you unless they ask you to go through some sketchy escrow service.

Get paid first and there will be no trouble with anyone scamming you. To be honest though, you're the one who is going to have to convince other that you are legit. Most people don't like dealing with members with such few posts. Posts mean that you are here a lot and will be around if there is a problem.

 
get the money firstsellers dont really need to worry about getting scammedits the buyers that generally worry

as long as you have the money before you ship i dont think its possible to be scammed
 
Bump = Bring Up My Post (or whatever other acronym you choose)

PM'ed = "Private messaged" It's when you message the individual rather than post in the thread.
 
ok so i have a bunch of stuff that i'd like to sell, but i dont know how to go about that.

-how do i recieve money for the products?

-do i recieve the money before i send the product?

please, give me some advice
 
Receive the money however you want. Ask for check, money order, cash, it doesn't matter. Most people prefer paypal because it's quick and easy.

And yes, I would get the money before you send the product. If you send out the order before you get the money anyone could scam you. Sad to say, it's been done too many times before on NS.

 
QUICK QUESTION

Can i mail a Bandanna in a standard letter envelope with a regular postage stamp on it?

42 c i believe?

thanks

 
I know i speak for alot of people on this site when i say that something needs to happen to all the WTB threads, they fucking suck, and they waste alot of space. I know this was mentioned in Site Discussion, but this is alittle closer to the problem, so hopefully it works. Ideas?
 
How do you reply to the person directly but still see that blue box with the person that you are replying to you?
 
Bumping your thread is basically a way to send your thread to the first page where more people will look at it, cause the threads are listed by most recent activity, and other people "help" them by posting bump to increase their post count.
Hope I helped you out.
 
Not dealing with new members sort of concerned me. What if someone is new and finds a great deal, legitimately wants to buy, say...a pair of skis, and knows that they will sell quickly. Isn't he kind of screwed because he has to build up his post count/karma/experience etc...before being considered to sell to? Or is that just supposed to mean dont BUY from new members?
 
nice...i will be posting stuff on here to sell shortly and this will definitely help.

Hopefully my low post count wont affect me as I am on here daily just dont ever bother to post.

I haven't looked into yet but anyone have advice on paypal...do I just go set up an account?
 
there should be a sticky in the b/s/t where it explains all the different way you can ship an item. Always having to explain how the shipping is done is a real PIA.!
 
good advice. i've had skis stolen on the mountain and that fuckin sucks, but i can't imagine paying for skis and they never come.
 
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