Gay nsers

[*TURBONERD*]

Dude, I live in Africa for most of the year. I am well aware of the human rights abuses directed at LBQTUZNAWUCOAS. I did not condone them. But comparing a limited few incidents of discrimination to thousands of years of enslavement and wholesale destruction of people by the billion and their culture is nothing compared to what homosexuals have faced.

A limited few incidents of discrimination? You're wrong again.

149 BCE or earlier – During the Roman Republic, the Lex Scantinia imposed penalties on those who committed a sex crime (stuprum) against a freeborn youth; infrequently mentioned or enforced, it may also have been used to prosecute male citizens who willingly took the passive role in homosexual relations.[15] It is unclear whether the penalty was death or a fine. For an adult male citizen to desire and engage in same-sex relations was considered natural and socially acceptable, as long as his partner was a male prostitute, slave or infamis, a person excluded from the legal protections accorded a citizen. In the Imperial period, the Lex Scantinia was revived by Domitian as part of his program of judicial and moral reform.[16]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_LGBT_history

 

[ModMommy]

Dude, I live in Africa for most of the year. I am well aware of the human rights abuses directed at LBQTUZNAWUCOAS. I did not condone them. But comparing a limited few incidents of discrimination to thousands of years of enslavement and wholesale destruction of people by the billion and their culture is nothing compared to what homosexuals have faced.

You do understand that homosexuals have been subjects to devastating crimes from near prehistory times correct?

Comparing those twos is to compare two different cultural aspects, and human rights issues. (PS. Slavery is still a thing, especially among sex workers.)

 

[*TURBONERD*]

For me this is a simple issue of whether you believe in the lord and savior himself jesus christ or not. If you look at the books of revelations and the gospel of Thomas you will clear see specific sections pointing out gods truth about quote unquote homosexulaty.

Genesis 2:18-25 says that god designed marriage between a man and a woman.

This is for a few specific reasons:

The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the normal husband-wife relationships. Clearly, design in human biology supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.

The combination of male and female enables man (and the animals) to produce and nurture offspring as commanded in Genesis 1:28 “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth.” This command is repeated to Noah after the Flood (Genesis 8:15-17).

But procreation is not the only reason God made humans as sexual beings. The gospel of Thomas affirms “that sexual intimacy between husband and wife is good, and is intended by God for bonding, pleasure and procreation.”

God gave man and woman complementary roles in order to strengthen the family unit. Woman was to be the helper that man needed (Genesis 2:18). However, the woman’s role as the helpmate is certainly not an inferior one. The enterprising, God-fearing woman in Proverbs 31:10-31 is an inspiring role model.

If your viewpoint is inspired by belief and not science and/or respect for your fellow human beings, I'm sure I'll make no headway with you. Still, I'll keep pointing out that homosexuality is not a choice and that the Bible is not the only book in the world without any factual evidence that people interpret in many ways.

 

[*TURBONERD*]

is speeding 5 mph over the limit more acceptable than 1000000000000 mph over the limit. Hell yes.

Check out this quote from the book of muhammad:

“For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the man, burned in their lust for one another, in bed…” (Muhammad 1:26-27)

Correct me if I'm wrong and this is actually part of the Christian Bible, but isn't that some form of idolatry to reference texts from another religion, which would imply you accept the text?

 

[ModMommy]

I turn to science to describe homosexuality and evolution, along with possible consequences.

 

[eheath]

For me this is a simple issue of whether you believe in the lord and savior himself jesus christ or not. If you look at the books of revelations and the gospel of Thomas you will clear see specific sections pointing out gods truth about quote unquote homosexulaty.

Genesis 2:18-25 says that god designed marriage between a man and a woman.

This is for a few specific reasons:

The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the normal husband-wife relationships. Clearly, design in human biology supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.

The combination of male and female enables man (and the animals) to produce and nurture offspring as commanded in Genesis 1:28 “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth.” This command is repeated to Noah after the Flood (Genesis 8:15-17).

But procreation is not the only reason God made humans as sexual beings. The gospel of Thomas affirms “that sexual intimacy between husband and wife is good, and is intended by God for bonding, pleasure and procreation.”

God gave man and woman complementary roles in order to strengthen the family unit. Woman was to be the helper that man needed (Genesis 2:18). However, the woman’s role as the helpmate is certainly not an inferior one. The enterprising, God-fearing woman in Proverbs 31:10-31 is an inspiring role model.

Well I official have no respect for you, got fuck off bigot.

 

[cool_name]

is speeding 5 mph over the limit more acceptable than 1000000000000 mph over the limit. Hell yes.

Check out this quote from the book of muhammad:

“For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the man, burned in their lust for one another, in bed…” (Muhammad 1:26-27)

i would of preferred you to use a moral example instead of just a legal one, but it will still work

is speeding 5mph over the limit still illegal though, or did it become legal just because speeding 10000000000 mph is worse?

bible quotes fuck ya

Leviticus 19:27 states:

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

hope you havent ever gotten a hair cut

Corinthians 14:34-35 states:

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

better keep your women in check

lets move onto the deadly sins, which i am sure you can agree are more important than any single verse

lust, lets hope you havent ever really wanted something

gluttony, so ever single fat person is a sinner, so that prom date of yours is going to hell

greed, better stay the fuck away from wall street then because that is what it strives on

sloth, have you ever hit the snooze button because if so you are going to hell

wrath, lets hope this post doesnt make you mad because if so, hell

envy, like how you are envying my superior knowledge and argument skill, yet another reson you are going to hell

pride, well ever single time you mentioned harvard on here is yet another strike against you

damn dude you really arent doing to well when it comes to following the instructions of the bible, or arguing your case

 

[Such_Doge]

I don't really care about this topic but I might as well say my opinion. For any of you non believers that think god is wrong, then why has evolution (if you believe in it) also proven that homosexuality is unsustainable for life. Two males can't reproduce and neither can two females. Now that proves without heterosexuals there isn't life. But if two people of the same gender want to "make love" then that's their choice.

 

[*TURBONERD*]

i would of preferred you to use a moral example instead of just a legal one, but it will still work

is speeding 5mph over the limit still illegal though, or did it become legal just because speeding 10000000000 mph is worse?

bible quotes fuck ya

Leviticus 19:27 states:

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

hope you havent ever gotten a hair cut

More Leviticus; let's not forget the sinful shellfish.

9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.

10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

 

[DaysToCome]

For me this is a simple issue of whether you believe in the lord and savior himself jesus christ or not. If you look at the books of revelations and the gospel of Thomas you will clear see specific sections pointing out gods truth about quote unquote homosexulaty.

Genesis 2:18-25 says that god designed marriage between a man and a woman.

This is for a few specific reasons:

The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the normal husband-wife relationships. Clearly, design in human biology supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.

The combination of male and female enables man (and the animals) to produce and nurture offspring as commanded in Genesis 1:28 “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth.” This command is repeated to Noah after the Flood (Genesis 8:15-17).

But procreation is not the only reason God made humans as sexual beings. The gospel of Thomas affirms “that sexual intimacy between husband and wife is good, and is intended by God for bonding, pleasure and procreation.”

God gave man and woman complementary roles in order to strengthen the family unit. Woman was to be the helper that man needed (Genesis 2:18). However, the woman’s role as the helpmate is certainly not an inferior one. The enterprising, God-fearing woman in Proverbs 31:10-31 is an inspiring role model.

Do you really believe the pinnacle of human relationships is procreation? I personally would hope that we have a lot more to gain from an intimate relationship than just offspring. Didn't jesus teach a "live and let live" philosphy? Matthew 22:39 quote jesus as saying "Love your neighbor as yourself" that seems like a pretty strong argument for equality in my opinion.

 

[*TURBONERD*]

I don't really care about this topic but I might as well say my opinion. For any of you non believers that think god is wrong, then why has evolution (if you believe in it) also proven that homosexuality is unsustainable for life. Two males can't reproduce and neither can two females. Now that proves without heterosexuals there isn't life. But if two people of the same gender want to "make love" then that's their choice.

Read the link immas posted a few posts above and say this again with a straight face. Homosexuality is exists outside Homo sapiens.

 

[ModMommy]

I don't really care about this topic but I might as well say my opinion. For any of you non believers that think god is wrong, then why has evolution (if you believe in it) also proven that homosexuality is unsustainable for life. Two males can't reproduce and neither can two females. Now that proves without heterosexuals there isn't life. But if two people of the same gender want to "make love" then that's their choice.

please refer to the article I linked. Homosexualtiy in species (except for those lesbian lizards) is unsustainable for the species, however practicing it for sexual stimulant is frequent and practiced by many species.

 

[Phil-X-]

You do understand that homosexuals have been subjects to devastating crimes from near prehistory times correct?

Comparing those twos is to compare two different cultural aspects, and human rights issues. (PS. Slavery is still a thing, especially among sex workers.)

My only issue with this is that literally every single society, religion, race etc since the start of recorded history has suffered similar, if not much worse then sexual deviants

 

[Such_Doge]

Read the link immas posted a few posts above and say this again with a straight face. Homosexuality is exists outside Homo sapiens.

I never said it didn't exist outside of Homo sapiens. I guess I should have said creatures instead of people. My bad. Also I am posting this with a straight face so do I win an award for best skier on the mountain?

 

[ModMommy]

My only issue with this is that literally every single society, religion, race etc since the start of recorded history has suffered similar, if not much worse then sexual deviants

Oh absolutely, it just tends to be the even smaller minorities in a weaker civilization that get the harshest punishments of all. Unless of course we're discussing acts in which an entire population is subject to cruelty regardless of differences inside the culture. (crusades and slavery for example)

 

[*TURBONERD*]

My only issue with this is that literally every single society, religion, race etc since the start of recorded history has suffered similar, if not much worse then sexual deviants

Do a little research and you'll find it leans toward either the former or homosexuals suffering more; I posted a link earlier of a general history (Wikipedia, I know) of such discrimination. Temporally, few aside from Jewish people have experienced it.

 

[*TURBONERD*]

I never said it didn't exist outside of Homo sapiens. I guess I should have said creatures instead of people. My bad. Also I am posting this with a straight face so do I win an award for best skier on the mountain?

Nah, you get the 'best at accepting church dogema' award.

 

[Phil-X-]

please refer to the article I linked. Homosexualtiy in species (except for those lesbian lizards) is unsustainable for the species, however practicing it for sexual stimulant is frequent and practiced by many species.

and the massive problem with this is that animals almost always performing non-consensual sex.. You cant just compare animals to humans when it benefits your case.. ..

monkeys/apes are massive rapists, dolphins are known to surround females and rape them, ducks rape females and corpses, the list goes on forever

Because animals are unable to make "conscious" decisions such as consent, they are equally unable to be "gay" or "straight"

 

[ModMommy]

and the massive problem with this is that animals almost always performing non-consensual sex.. You cant just compare animals to humans when it benefits your case.. ..

monkeys/apes are massive rapists, dolphins are known to surround females and rape them, ducks rape females and corpses, the list goes on forever

Because animals are unable to make "conscious" decisions such as consent, they are equally unable to be "gay" or "straight"

I havn't thought of that take. I think I was looking more at the behavioral side than conscious side.

Add humans to that list too.

With the exception of the asexual Cnemidophorus neomexicanus (or New Mexico whiptail Lizard) that is true.

 

[sampsihoyos]

For me this is a simple issue of whether you believe in the lord and savior himself jesus christ or not. If you look at the books of revelations and the gospel of Thomas you will clear see specific sections pointing out gods truth about quote unquote homosexulaty.

Genesis 2:18-25 says that god designed marriage between a man and a woman.

This is for a few specific reasons:

The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the normal husband-wife relationships. Clearly, design in human biology supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.

The combination of male and female enables man (and the animals) to produce and nurture offspring as commanded in Genesis 1:28 “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth.” This command is repeated to Noah after the Flood (Genesis 8:15-17).

But procreation is not the only reason God made humans as sexual beings. The gospel of Thomas affirms “that sexual intimacy between husband and wife is good, and is intended by God for bonding, pleasure and procreation.”

God gave man and woman complementary roles in order to strengthen the family unit. Woman was to be the helper that man needed (Genesis 2:18). However, the woman’s role as the helpmate is certainly not an inferior one. The enterprising, God-fearing woman in Proverbs 31:10-31 is an inspiring role model.

You really need to try LSD and expand your mind. Or go back to Georgia. All of you

 

[Such_Doge]

Nah, you get the 'best at accepting church dogema' award.

Not sure if troll or being nice? But you used the word "doge" so I'm think it's nice but idk and I'm still the best skier on the mountain with or without a award

 

[*TURBONERD*]

and the massive problem with this is that animals almost always performing non-consensual sex.. You cant just compare animals to humans when it benefits your case.. ..

monkeys/apes are massive rapists, dolphins are known to surround females and rape them, ducks rape females and corpses, the list goes on forever

Because animals are unable to make "conscious" decisions such as consent, they are equally unable to be "gay" or "straight"

Bonobos are at least sometimes an exception to this.

 

[cool_name]

i dont see why choice is always brought up as such a big matter in these decisions. Am i the only one who thinks that even if it was choice(i dont think it is a choice, but that doesnt matter right now) they should be free to act however they want? If i want to be a dinosaur and roam my garden with my elbows stuck close to side to give myself little t-rex arms why they hell shouldn't i be allowed to, presuming i dont go around a try to eat people like a dinosaur would because that would clearly infringe on their right to be alive?

if it doesn't affect you who are you to tell me that how i act is wrong!

 

[*TURBONERD*]

i dont see why choice is always brought up as such a big matter in these decisions. Am i the only one who thinks that even if it was choice(i dont think it is a choice, but that doesnt matter right now) they should be free to act however they want? If i want to be a dinosaur and roam my garden with my elbows stuck close to side to give myself little t-rex arms why they hell shouldn't i be allowed to, presuming i dont go around a try to eat people like a dinosaur would because that would clearly infringe on their right to be alive?

if it doesn't affect you who are you to tell me that how i act is wrong!

I see it as just one flaw in an argument full of them.

 

[cool_name]

You really need to try LSD and expand your mind. Or go back to Georgia. All of you

you dont need try lsd to have an open mind

 

[Bodhisattva_]

In really surprised nobody has mentioned Reese (loveninja) or Wyatt ( Arabian). The former is gay and the latter a transsexual lesbian (forgive me if cis privilege lead me to use the wrong term for your gender identity, Wyatt). Anyway, I have friends who happen to be gay and I fully support the movement. Just because NS is good by the internet's horrific standards doesn't mean it couldn't be substantially better.

Wtf mind blown I always though Arabian was simply homosexual. Good to know.

Oh gosh, I think I ranted about this notion to Sean the other day. Bi ≠ threesome haha

Why not? Just curious.. I mean hell I feel like if I was in to both boys and girls why not both at the same time? Seems like a win win to me.

 

[ModMommy]

Why not? Just curious.. I mean hell I feel like if I was in to both boys and girls why not both at the same time? Seems like a win win to me.

haha guess I wasn't that clear. I mean it doesn't always mean you're down for a threesome. I lean towards girls more anyways so...

But I really don't have any problems with them. Sometimes I'm to jealous to share my partner ya know?

 

[Bombogenesis]

Homosexuality is wrong because a bunch of glorified cavemen said it in a fairy tale a couple thousand years ago.

 

[yelsel]

Why shouldn't it be applicable to private matters? There is a huge double standard if someone where to get fired because they choose to be gay people there would be a law suit at the bear minimum and possibly criminal prosecution( in the united states at least). But if someone thinks that the choice to be gay is not a correct one they can be fired with no repercussions whatsoever. The blur between speech and non-discriminatory charastics is very strong. You only know someone is gay because they tell you, that is a form of speech.

#bigots

You think they chose to be gay?

So, when did you chose to be straight? Just wondering....

 

[infedel_one]

Why is there anything with wrong being "homophobic" in todays society?

Just cause I think it is disgusting for a man to make the choice to stick his penis up another man's excrement hole doesn't mean I'm a terrible person. It is a sick lifestyle choice that I don't approve of.

I hate how the homo supporters are like EQUAL RIGHTS for EVERYONE, except for people who don't support them. Hypocrites.

yoski, youre really going to go there? There is so much I could say about you, but most of it would get me banned so I will refrain, and say this...Everyone is entitled to their own personal views and that includes you, so if you want to continue laying down fatty chicks thats your choice and I wont bash you for that. Enjoy your rotten tuna

 

[theabortionator]

I tried snowboarding once. Now I'm gay.

None of my friends care. Some people are shitty about it but for the most part most people are at least civil which is all you can ask for.

There will always be bigots but whatever.

choice

People don't choose to be gay broski.

I don't feel I'm naive as much as hopefully I wonder sometimes if we could get beyond race, gender and sexuality issues. Even better just see people as people and realize that we're all connected on this spinning piece of rock in the middle of space.

People who carry all this hate and contempt for fellow humans need to realize that it's not helping them, and isn't healthy. We're never going to like everyone, this isn't a utopia but you'd be amazed at how much many friends you can find if you strip away labels.

We spend far too much time judging other people.

 

[Scaredwhiteboy]

Why is there anything with wrong being "homophobic" in todays society?

Just cause I think it is disgusting for a man to make the choice to stick his penis up another man's excrement hole doesn't mean I'm a terrible person. It is a sick lifestyle choice that I don't approve of.

I hate how the homo supporters are like EQUAL RIGHTS for EVERYONE, except for people who don't support them. Hypocrites.

This. The biggest hypocrisy is that most gay marriage supporters claim they support marriage equality for everybody, but don't support legalizing incestuous marriage or polygamy.

Claiming equality as a reason for gay marriage is extra ridiculous because gays and straights already have exactly equal marriage rights. A gay can marry a woman just like any straight man. Saying gay marriage laws discriminate against gays is like saying cocaine laws discriminate against cocaine users. Just because you want to do something that you're not allowed to doesn't mean you're being discriminated against.

 

[yelsel]

This. The biggest hypocrisy is that most gay marriage supporters claim they support marriage equality for everybody, but don't support legalizing incestuous marriage or polygamy.

Claiming equality as a reason for gay marriage is extra ridiculous because gays and straights already have exactly equal marriage rights. A gay can marry a woman just like any straight man. Saying gay marriage laws discriminate against gays is like saying cocaine laws discriminate against cocaine users. Just because you want to do something that you're not allowed to doesn't mean you're being discriminated against.

I cant believe you just compared gay marriage to incest. You truly are a moron. There are not equal marriage rights for gays right now. Not sure if you've read the news or anything but a lot of states still ban gay marriage along with whatever rights a "traditional" marriage would have as well. So, no, it isn't equal yet.

 

[theabortionator]

Why shouldn't it be applicable to private matters? There is a huge double standard if someone where to get fired because they choose to be gay people there would be a law suit at the bear minimum and possibly criminal prosecution( in the united states at least). But if someone thinks that the choice to be gay is not a correct one they can be fired with no repercussions whatsoever. The blur between speech and non-discriminatory charastics is very strong. You only know someone is gay because they tell you, that is a form of speech.

#bigots

Again it isn't a choice. I didn't wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to become something that sends me to hell, my parents and pretty much all my family will hate me for, my friends will bail on me for, and other negative things"

I didn't decide "I'm tired of seeing the same pair of tits over and over, dump my girlfriend and start getting off to dudes"

If you were working a job with a black guy and you made it known that you had a problem with him, and made it a repeated thing, do you think it would be fucked for a company to get rid of you? It really doesn't matter what you believe, if you make an environment where other people can't work because of your prejudices, that's on you.

Nobody is saying you can't hate gay people, or black people, or think that eating turkey is a sin. Just don't start shit in the workplace or fuck up my thanksgiving dinner.

As far as the workplace, I've only experienced it from the other side. One mountain I worked at for 3 years had to deal with a douche boss going around and telling kids to not be friends with me because I was gay. I drove over an hour each way on shit roads to work my ass off and barely make any profit after gas to try and build a good park for the kids. I didn't do anything about it because I did want the attention from people like you. "Gay man tries to ruin the careers of everyone around him because he's gay....."

You can believe what ever the fuck you want to believe, but if it's ignorant as fuck you might want to keep it to yourself.

 

[Barefootin_Fiend]

it would be impossible for me to care any less what someone else likes to do in the confines of their bedroom....

 

[Scaredwhiteboy]

I cant believe you just compared gay marriage to incest. You truly are a moron. There are not equal marriage rights for gays right now. Not sure if you've read the news or anything but a lot of states still ban gay marriage along with whatever rights a "traditional" marriage would have as well. So, no, it isn't equal yet.

Read more carefully next time. I'm well aware that many states still ban gay marriage. However, gay people can still marry people of the opposite sex completely legally, and straight people still cannot marry people of the same sex. Whether you're gay or straight, you still have the exact same marriage rights.

And I didn't really compare gay marriage to incest. I simply said that if you support gay marriage on the basis of equality, it would be intellectually dishonest not to support incestuous marriage.

 

[theabortionator]

Haha, did anyone not notice the made up books of the bible?

Nah i didn't read much or your posts. I just came for the argument. Anything with religion turns into something great.

 

[1337]

so if you want to continue laying down fatty chicks thats your choice and I wont bash you for that. Enjoy your rotten tuna

Fucking owned.

 

[Laurent.]

bhahahahahaha, I lost.

Also, I hope you guys realized that I was trolling.

 

[GayWolf420]

bhahahahahaha, I lost.

Also, I hope you guys realized that I was trolling.

the definite go-to when you lose an argument.

 

[theBearJew]

because it makes no sense, and shows the whole ridiculousness of how seriously people take a word

If you don't understand how a word can be important you should have paid more attention in history class. Sure we would love to think they are just words, but its pretty naive to think that words carry no weight.

Read more carefully next time. I'm well aware that many states still ban gay marriage. However, gay people can still marry people of the opposite sex completely legally, and straight people still cannot marry people of the same sex. Whether you're gay or straight, you still have the exact same marriage rights.

Lets flip this argument around. Lets say you were only allowed to marry the same sex. Men could only marry men, women could only marry women. Would you have a problem with that? It is equal, everyone has the same rights. By the argument you posed you would be okay with only being able marrying someone you will never be attracted to, love, or be intimate with. Do you think straight people would be okay with only being allowed to marry the same sex?

 

[.Hugo.]

Dude, I found some dumb christian website changed their quotes to useand was using fake books of the bible "the book of muhammad," if that isnt trolling I dont know what is?.

Trolls dont admit theyre trolling... Retarded shitstains use it as an excuse for their stupidity

 

[Scaredwhiteboy]

If you don't understand how a word can be important you should have paid more attention in history class. Sure we would love to think they are just words, but its pretty naive to think that words carry no weight.

Lets flip this argument around. Lets say you were only allowed to marry the same sex. Men could only marry men, women could only marry women. Would you have a problem with that? It is equal, everyone has the same rights. By the argument you posed you would be okay with only being able marrying someone you will never be attracted to, love, or be intimate with. Do you think straight people would be okay with only being allowed to marry the same sex?

Well, I could still have sex with women and I could still live with the woman I loved. Not having the government recognize our union would be a mild nuisance, but nothing I couldn't live with. And as long as I could still marry just the same as everybody else, I wouldn't call it discriminatory or unequal.

In most states, however, it is a felony to have sex with somebody in your family. Why is that so? For the same reason many people oppose gay marriage: they find it disgusting. Why are gay marriage supporters so adamant about freedom and equality when it comes to gays but so quick to change the subject when it comes to incest? Incestuous couples are actually being incarcerated for their sexual preferences. Surely this is a more important issue than gays having fewer hospital visitation rights because of their sexual preference.

 

[Bombogenesis]

Not having the government recognize our union would be a mild nuisance, but nothing I couldn't live with.

Well you're clueless

 

[Scaredwhiteboy]

Well you're clueless

Enlighten me.

 

[TheBigApple]

Oh god why did I click on this thread.

 

[Bombogenesis]

Enlighten me.

You can start here
http://www.hrc.org/resources/entry/...ts-and-protections-granted-to-married-couples

 

[GayWolf420]

Dude, I found some dumb christian website changed their quotes to useand was using fake books of the bible "the book of muhammad," if that isnt trolling I dont know what is?.

nice damage control, bud.

 

[Scaredwhiteboy]

You can start here
http://www.hrc.org/resources/entry/...ts-and-protections-granted-to-married-couples

As an unmarried man, I currently don't get any of that, and I'm still doing just fine. Like I said, it's a mild nuisance.

 

[theBearJew]

Well, I could still have sex with women and I could still live with the woman I loved. Not having the government recognize our union would be a mild nuisance, but nothing I couldn't live with.

So then why get married at all if you dont love the person and they mean nothing to you but a tax advantage? What would the marriage mean to you in that situation?