FUCK THE HOE-LICE. 16 Year old taserd 19 TIMES, after sustaining broken back. AFTER.
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freestyler540
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Tazers are used to often. A tazer is the mean BEFORE lethal force, not a way to put a leash on someone. The story was really poorly made, there were a lot of holes in the story. I can truly believe everything said, but the taser should be limited to prevent abuse.
ButteredToast.
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I agree with you and mercer, except for the cops part.
The kid obviously jumped. Next time you're on the highway, look at the guard rails on the side. They are at least above an average person's waist, and you can't "fall" over that shit accidentally.
And for the cops, who the fuck cares if the kid is saying "shoot cops, kill cops"? There's no immediate threat, no weapon has been pulled. The kid is fucking lying on a highway below an overpass, incoherent, and unable to move. You do the fucking math there Einstein.
The kid obviously jumped. Next time you're on the highway, look at the guard rails on the side. They are at least above an average person's waist, and you can't "fall" over that shit accidentally.
And for the cops, who the fuck cares if the kid is saying "shoot cops, kill cops"? There's no immediate threat, no weapon has been pulled. The kid is fucking lying on a highway below an overpass, incoherent, and unable to move. You do the fucking math there Einstein.
Snowcase
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I'm sorry to tell you this but every local cop I have met has been an ass to me. I could be walking through town and a cop pulls up and immediately assumes that because I'm young and in town when it's dark I'm making trouble. I've been followed by cops just waiting for me to make a mistake and after 10 minutes they give up and move on. Around here there aren't murders or many robberies so their only job is to bust parties and pull people over and they take their job way too seriously. We have alot of state cop friends and they're completely different.
Holte
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Here's another news article. From www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080728/NEWS01/807280342/1007
A Branson teen was Tasered after Ozark police found him lying on the side of the highway, seriously injured from a major fall.
His father says it was unnecessary and that using the electroshock weapon multiple times on the already-injured teen has delayed his son's recovery. But law enforcement officials, who are reviewing the incident, say the Taser was used to protect the teen from further injury.
Mace Hutchinson, 17, is at Cox South hospital recovering from a broken back and heel and a punctured lung. He was listed in stable condition on Friday afternoon.
About 2:30 a.m. July 19, police found the teen lying on the shoulder of a roadway underneath a U.S. 65 overpass in Ozark. He was battered and bruised, and it appeared that the teen had fallen from the highway above.
Neither police nor Mace's parents, Don and Stephanie Hutchinson, know what happened or how he ended up on the shoulder of the roadway.
What happened after the fall is contested as well.
Police officers were initially dispatched to the overpass because of reports that a man was banging on cars. Then, they came across the teen, who they say had already fallen from the overpass.
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The incident is under internal investigation at the Ozark Police Department, but Police Chief Lyle Hodges said he believes officers used the Taser to stop Hutchinson from running into the path of oncoming cars.
"From preliminary reports I've seen, I'm convinced this young man would have darted into traffic without this officer's intervention," Hodges said.
The police report indicates that Hutchinson was repeatedly shouting statements such as "cops, kill, shoot" and "smoke crack" and trying to move toward the road.
However, Don Hutchinson said he believes his son was trying to cooperate with officers but was unable to do so because of the extent of his injuries. He also believes his son was incoherent due to shock from the fall.
"They said he was noncompliant and thought he was going to try to lunge out into the road," Don Hutchinson said. "He was delirious. He was in shock. He just fell 35 feet, so you're going to have some shock. ... I don't think being Tasered 19 times is the solution."
A total of 19 shots were fired at Hutchinson from two Taser stun guns, although Hodges said it's still unclear how many actually made contact with the teen.
A Taser shoots two probes out that stick in the target's skin, and an electrical current is passed from the Taser to the probes.
Hutchinson's dad said surgery was delayed for two days because Mace's white blood cell count was too high -- a fact he blames on the Taser.
However, a spokesman for Taser International said he has never heard of a stun gun causing an elevated white blood cell count.
"This issue has not been described in any of the several hundred research exposures nor in the several hundred thousand volunteer training exposures," said Steve Tuttle, vice president of communications for Taser International.
Stephanie Hutchinson said her family plans to press charges against the Ozark Police Department over the incident.
"I've been sick about it," she said.
A Branson teen was Tasered after Ozark police found him lying on the side of the highway, seriously injured from a major fall.
His father says it was unnecessary and that using the electroshock weapon multiple times on the already-injured teen has delayed his son's recovery. But law enforcement officials, who are reviewing the incident, say the Taser was used to protect the teen from further injury.
Mace Hutchinson, 17, is at Cox South hospital recovering from a broken back and heel and a punctured lung. He was listed in stable condition on Friday afternoon.
About 2:30 a.m. July 19, police found the teen lying on the shoulder of a roadway underneath a U.S. 65 overpass in Ozark. He was battered and bruised, and it appeared that the teen had fallen from the highway above.
Neither police nor Mace's parents, Don and Stephanie Hutchinson, know what happened or how he ended up on the shoulder of the roadway.
What happened after the fall is contested as well.
Police officers were initially dispatched to the overpass because of reports that a man was banging on cars. Then, they came across the teen, who they say had already fallen from the overpass.
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The incident is under internal investigation at the Ozark Police Department, but Police Chief Lyle Hodges said he believes officers used the Taser to stop Hutchinson from running into the path of oncoming cars.
"From preliminary reports I've seen, I'm convinced this young man would have darted into traffic without this officer's intervention," Hodges said.
The police report indicates that Hutchinson was repeatedly shouting statements such as "cops, kill, shoot" and "smoke crack" and trying to move toward the road.
However, Don Hutchinson said he believes his son was trying to cooperate with officers but was unable to do so because of the extent of his injuries. He also believes his son was incoherent due to shock from the fall.
"They said he was noncompliant and thought he was going to try to lunge out into the road," Don Hutchinson said. "He was delirious. He was in shock. He just fell 35 feet, so you're going to have some shock. ... I don't think being Tasered 19 times is the solution."
A total of 19 shots were fired at Hutchinson from two Taser stun guns, although Hodges said it's still unclear how many actually made contact with the teen.
A Taser shoots two probes out that stick in the target's skin, and an electrical current is passed from the Taser to the probes.
Hutchinson's dad said surgery was delayed for two days because Mace's white blood cell count was too high -- a fact he blames on the Taser.
However, a spokesman for Taser International said he has never heard of a stun gun causing an elevated white blood cell count.
"This issue has not been described in any of the several hundred research exposures nor in the several hundred thousand volunteer training exposures," said Steve Tuttle, vice president of communications for Taser International.
Stephanie Hutchinson said her family plans to press charges against the Ozark Police Department over the incident.
"I've been sick about it," she said.
artfullydodged
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i dont think a taser is something you can relaod easily, this really makes no sense, the kid was probably just suicidal, which would explain why he was trying to run out into the road,
strongmark
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skateboarding told me that i should not like police officers.
so did mc hammer.
so did mc hammer.
even before i read the second article i thought it sounded like the kid definatley did not want to live. But trying to move towards the road way... im thinking the cops may have saved his life. And then his dad making claims about tasers raising white blood cell count.
Hmm, know what stops you from fealing pain (yelling at cops after falling off bridge, trying to move) AND raises white blood cell count? Heroin
Im not sure whose side to choose
Hmm, know what stops you from fealing pain (yelling at cops after falling off bridge, trying to move) AND raises white blood cell count? Heroin
Im not sure whose side to choose
Most cops I have run into a great people, but every now and then I meet a real asshole. I even know a specific crooked one who steps over his boundrys as a polic officer (walks into people's houses without warrants).
You're right, not all cops pick that career just to be assholes and fuck with kids, but to deny that some are crooked or even uneccesarily forceful would be astinine.
You're right, not all cops pick that career just to be assholes and fuck with kids, but to deny that some are crooked or even uneccesarily forceful would be astinine.
ChrisMercer
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asinine?
Yes there are crooked cops. I don't think anyone is arguing that there are no crooked cops in the workforce. But. to argue that an entire police department is crooked is asinine.
Yes there are crooked cops. I don't think anyone is arguing that there are no crooked cops in the workforce. But. to argue that an entire police department is crooked is asinine.
BASS_PRO_SHOP
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hahahaha, i love how people think that police actually SHOT him with tasers 19 times. a taser gun enters once, and what a police officer does is shock the person, see if they comply and give them another shock if they dont. thats two shots right there. if the kid kept being a dumbass saying "SHOOT COPS! KILL COPS!" of course they're going to keep shocking him- NOT shooting him like it was a gun or they actually had 19 tasers on hand. kid was fucked up, and the cops were being cautious for their own well being. fuck the kid, he was a prick and the cops have no idea he has a broken back and probably had no motivation to do a medical examination while he was threatening their lives. screw all the cop-hating douchebags, there's always two sides.
except for skaters. the man just hates skaters.
except for skaters. the man just hates skaters.
BeerGoggles
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Like people have been saying, most cops are good, rational people.
But then some people are just assholes. Some of those assholes choose to be cops and basicaly get a license to abuse their power.
Mercer, I agree with what you think. It's rational/logical. But I wouldnt put it passed some impulsive idiot with a badge to pull something so fiendish.
Just to upset people some more about cops; here's a video of one bashing a cyclist - just for the hell of it.
But then some people are just assholes. Some of those assholes choose to be cops and basicaly get a license to abuse their power.
Mercer, I agree with what you think. It's rational/logical. But I wouldnt put it passed some impulsive idiot with a badge to pull something so fiendish.
Just to upset people some more about cops; here's a video of one bashing a cyclist - just for the hell of it.
BASS_PRO_SHOP
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again, you dont know the whole story to that. i agree it was brutal as fuck but notice how they were looking ahead, then when that dude on the bike came rolling up, they aimed for him? he could have been causing shit on the way down and a cop who saw him raising shit just radioed ahead to have him taken out. video is so useless to determine an actual situation.
Dr.Dank
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Cop on YouTube and off patrols
July 30, 2008
NEW
YORK — A rookie New York policeman was reassigned to desk duty after he
was caught on video sending a bicyclist sprawling with a shoulder check.
Officer Patrick Pogan, 23, who has been on patrol for less than a month, was filmed in Times Square
during Friday's Critical Mass bike ride. The tape was posted
anonymously on YouTube. His target, Christopher Long, 29, was charged
with attempted assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.
The video shows Long trying to avoid Pogan as the officer sends the New Jersey man off his bike in front of witnesses.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-nat-cop-assaultjul30,0,6660987.story
July 30, 2008
NEW
YORK — A rookie New York policeman was reassigned to desk duty after he
was caught on video sending a bicyclist sprawling with a shoulder check.
Officer Patrick Pogan, 23, who has been on patrol for less than a month, was filmed in Times Square
during Friday's Critical Mass bike ride. The tape was posted
anonymously on YouTube. His target, Christopher Long, 29, was charged
with attempted assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.
The video shows Long trying to avoid Pogan as the officer sends the New Jersey man off his bike in front of witnesses.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-nat-cop-assaultjul30,0,6660987.story
BeerGoggles
Member
Naw dude. It's nice to give people the benifit of the doubt, but at what point are you just lying to yourself?
The video is from a demonstration (like keep your car at home day... or something along those lines). Technically all the cyclist were breaking the law by not following the rules of road and being in the middle of the street. This does not merit to get your head bashed to the ground. Did you see how fast the cyclist was going? If the cop only wanted to stop him, he would have just gone in front of him and grabbed his handdle bars. This is pretty blatant cop brutality.
Had he been causing shit, he could have pretty much just speed pass the cops to avoid them.
The video is from a demonstration (like keep your car at home day... or something along those lines). Technically all the cyclist were breaking the law by not following the rules of road and being in the middle of the street. This does not merit to get your head bashed to the ground. Did you see how fast the cyclist was going? If the cop only wanted to stop him, he would have just gone in front of him and grabbed his handdle bars. This is pretty blatant cop brutality.
Had he been causing shit, he could have pretty much just speed pass the cops to avoid them.
BASS_PRO_SHOP
Active member
see there you go, the dude was charged with something, and as i said the officer was brutal with the incident but he didn't attack the guy for fun like the kid posting it said.
BeerGoggles
Member
"like the kid posting it it"
Get over yourself there buddy. I dont expect you to say that your wrong, but quit insisting.
"The biker, Christopher Long, of Hoboken, N.J., was arrested because he was obstructing traffic in the heart of Times Square, a criminal complaint said. He was charged with attempted assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. The complaint said Long, 29, deliberately steered his bicycle into the officer, causing both of them to fall to the ground."
He was arrested because technically, like everyone else, he was blocking traffic.
The cop also claimed that the cyclist " deliberately steered his bicycle into the officer, causing both of them to all to the ground".
We both watched the video; does it look like he was trying to ram into the cop?
As for the charges brought before him "attempted assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct"; would you not be resisting arrest if some douche cop wanted to see your head splatter? They are pretty clearly made up as an excuse to arrest the cyclist.
Oh, and kid, for the record, the cop was discharged. Clearly the video isnt that far away from the truth.
Get over yourself there buddy. I dont expect you to say that your wrong, but quit insisting.
"The biker, Christopher Long, of Hoboken, N.J., was arrested because he was obstructing traffic in the heart of Times Square, a criminal complaint said. He was charged with attempted assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. The complaint said Long, 29, deliberately steered his bicycle into the officer, causing both of them to fall to the ground."
He was arrested because technically, like everyone else, he was blocking traffic.
The cop also claimed that the cyclist " deliberately steered his bicycle into the officer, causing both of them to all to the ground".
We both watched the video; does it look like he was trying to ram into the cop?
As for the charges brought before him "attempted assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct"; would you not be resisting arrest if some douche cop wanted to see your head splatter? They are pretty clearly made up as an excuse to arrest the cyclist.
Oh, and kid, for the record, the cop was discharged. Clearly the video isnt that far away from the truth.
This story is pretty sad, but this part just made me laugh...
thenakedcellist
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thats nuts vibes to that family
comeatmebro
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he police report indicates that Hutchinson was repeatedly shouting statements such as "cops, kill, shoot" and "smoke crack" and trying to move toward the road.
hahahahahahahahaha smoke crack, i fucking lost it when i read that.
hahahahahahahahaha smoke crack, i fucking lost it when i read that.
user098123
Active member
You realize its not the actual SHOT that fucks you up? It's the 10000 volts or whatever it is that they shoot straight into your heart, repeatedly.
morocco_mole
Member
fuck the police
Black-Bandanna
Active member
It quite honestly would not surprise me with the experiences I have had with cops. Some cops are out doing the right thing and then unfortunately I've personally found out that a large sum of them get off by bullying kids around. It's only human. When someone holds a position of power it can easily go to their head, so I really don't see this story as being far fetched.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.