Fuck The herd

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skipimp_

Active member
well.

you're not the only one who thinks the same. i for one, am in complete agreeance, and have even written very similar words.

Now, no one is a product of themselves.

no one is truly an individual.

The quest to become an individual can quickly become dangerous, alienating, and lonesome.

The further you stray from the pack the more succeptable to the dangers of ONE.

It depends on how strong you are, and if anyone follows you.

I can go be alone, away from the pact, and love it. But eventually you desire...NEED....others. Thats why you have to find something better than the alternative.

I truly believe I have.

I am now trying me hardest to show that to others, to see who will follow. I'ts not a blind following, it's just a smaller pack to stray from ;)

and this smaller pack has more fun that the big pack.

but most of the small pack's fun comes at the expense of the larger pack (reblliousness, using their toys such as roller coasters and movies...but using them differently. Sneaking into amusement parks...getting around the rules. Getting drunk in the theatre and pissing all the lemmings off.)

Now the small pack needs the large pack. They have built a very comfortable infastructure, and when the small pack runs into trouble, they can rejoin, recharge......but this becomes dangerous....there are many ingenious distractions the large pack has created to keep the small pack from leaving again. True, how many times do people stray from the large pack in their lives (? once? briefly? they 'see' what the small pack has to offer, and they choose the large pack? no, they just don't see.)

And the large pack needs the small pack to maintain a reasonable sanity in the world..that alternative always has to exist, even if the large pack never uses it.

And another thing:

Lots of people arent physically built to be strong enough for the small pack..they would die. Fat people, disabled people, old people...

Well, maybe old people could, but only if they've lived with the small pack for a long time...

and old people can slip back into the large pack with great ease...the elderly are always welcome..

but who wants to get old anyways?

They devices of the large pack are most evidently found in cities.

This is where the pack is bred.

Cars, toys, shiny things.

FISH LIKE SHINY THINGS!

And then they're hooked.

what will it be? Girlfriend? Kid? Morgage? car payments? Full time job? Rent?

too much materilistic crap that you become immobile?

Take your fucking pick guys...

or don't.

I won't...not yet.

All that shit can wait.

Life is so much more.

so much more.

Fuck clubs and getting loaded and scoring with faceless chicks.

Fuck morning latte's and espresso shots.

Fuck cigarettes to 'calm my nerves'

Fuck your psychiatrist, whose job it is to make you feel good about the choices you haven't made in your life. (you like that one ;)

Fuck your mazda protege

Fuck your toyota echo.

Fuck your 3/4 ton ford pickup truck.

Fuck your v8 diesel.

Fuck your piles of dishes in your cupboard...why the hell do you need so many?

Fuck your dishwasher.

Fuck your MSN addiction.

Fuck trying to make your parents proud the way they want.

Fuck living for others who won't understand you.

Fuck your white socks and nike basketball shoes. You don't even play basketball, do you?

Fuck TV, which feeds of your mediocracy.

Fuck the laws, fuck the fears that keep us chained.

Fuck your fear of change.

Fuck your blind 9-5.

Fuck your lack of creativity.

you know what?

Fuck the herd. Don't try to save them, for our small pack will become overrun by a blind stampede...

breathe. now.

be conscious of each breath.

climb something.

Build something.

save someone who needs it,

bring someone who wants it.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
This was in response to this thread by kamikaze_00:

'People have been working for so many years to make the world a safe, organized place. Nobody realized how boring it would become. With the whole world Property-lined, speed-limited, zoned, taxed and regulated. With everyone tested, registered, addressed and recorded. Nobody leaves much room for adventure, except the hired kind you can buy, on a roller coaster. At a movie. Still it’s always that kind of faux excitement. And because there’s no possibility or real disaster, real risk, were left with no chance for real salvation. Real elation. Real excitement, Joy. Discovery. Invention. The laws that keep us safe, these same laws condemn us to boredom.

We can spend out lives letting the world tell us who we are.

Sane or Insane.

Heroes or victims.

Letting history tell us how good or bad we are. Letting out pasts decide our future

Or we can just decide for ourselves.

And maybe its our Job to invent something better.'

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
aye

Hey Jesus, did you order a cab? -Robin Williams

You could snort ice... -My friend's mom not realizing what she just said.

It's all about the coke! -My woodwork teacher fully aware of what he just said.

ARMADA
 
wanna short form all that and give us the just, cuz there is no way im readin all that

Merse you sexy potatoe you better be doing some thing fucking crazy up there, see yea soon br-ah

Too many Rookies not enough PROS !!!

807 Army 4life
 
yeah: FUCK YOU.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
if you don't need any of that shit, then what are you doing on the internet? if you're going to get nihilistic, then get fucking nihilisitic. i know plenty of good caves where you can hang out and be anti-establishment.

song of the week to download: 'Streets Of London' by Ralph McTell

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman : God has a hard on for Marines, because we kill everything we see. He plays His games, we play ours. To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls. God was here before the marine corps, so you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the corps.
 
besides you treat things with such conceptual destruction, and yet you tell people to step out and build something - regardless of whether you mean physically or in essence - its contradiction.

song of the week to download: 'Streets Of London' by Ralph McTell

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman : God has a hard on for Marines, because we kill everything we see. He plays His games, we play ours. To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls. God was here before the marine corps, so you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the corps.
 
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man, it's not about denying what is there

it's not supporting it.

I will use it when it is there, because it is there weather I support it or not.

When people believe in Starbucks

BELIEVE in convienence....

they lose something in life. most don't even know

build something.

yeah, physically.

yeah, mentally.

Work a 9-5, but only if you have a definitive goal to work towards.

Don't fucking criticize me.

I saw a bumper sticker in Vegas:

'I want it all, and I want it now' - on a huge pick up, with not a single scartch on it.

That's not the way I choose to live, and who the fuck would hold that against me. Oh yeah, those people who think like that would.

Why are you so exreme?

a cave?

what the fuck?

Did you even read what I wrote.

I doubt it.

Read it again.

unbiased and with an open mind

Fuck your Resistance.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
You know, the title of this thread sounds very wrong somehow. But great thread, nonetheless.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
i read that.. and i felt.. like shit.... dude its your fuckin fault that there are two differant groups bitchy peopel like you draw lines at people that they are jelous off,,, its your owns damn fault in life where you are. take some responsabily.. and just live life.... if your always fighting the power how will you ever have any time to live... really....... this is not an attack on the person who wrote this thread. but i think that people who draw lines and give people labels.. need to get there fuckin heads out of there asses..

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
i respect what your saying...but yeah some of it is dumb. fuck your toyota echo? um i dont know eventually your little group would turn right back into the big group.

w.m.h
 
the first little bit of your post reminded me of this little excerpt. im sure we all know it well.

No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece

of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by

the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as

well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's

death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and

therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for

thee.

-you think you can take us on... you and your cronies-
 
Actually, I seriously doubt more than a handful of people could even tell you who wrote that.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
eh, youre probably right, but when i saiy, 'we all' i guess i really meant people who have been alive more than 15 years, and who have read a book before.

-you think you can take us on... you and your cronies-
 
yo skiPIMP....beautiful. I loved it and I felt every word of it. keep it up because I love your writing...espically that deep shit

-> Colleen

So fuck the critics

Fuck the news

And if you sit and let it happen

Then fuck you too

nwft sucks
 
I'm punching myself for knowing the author...

Brings up an interesting statement I was reading about when I researched utopian societies:

'Society REQUIRES deviance as it sets moral bounds for the majority.'

Which is, in of itself, the very source of domestic progression.

-AndrewP

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Go Fishing. Go Ride.

 
I like the way you think, man.

Smoking pot leads to uhh... I forget.

50 nuts in your mothafuckin' mouth

What's with all the hate?

 
That's great, and its not all about fighting the powers that be, its just about ignoring them and doing what you want. Thats punk right there.

...No, it's J.F. Cusson.
 
nonconformity is the new conformity

black is the new black

woohoo

-Lauren

Lauren and Ella: together changing teenaged boys lives since 2001.

THE FIST OF FURY

Fistin' Mad Bitches!

Skiing's not a sport, it's a lifestyle.
 


'Society REQUIRES deviance as it sets moral bounds for the majority.'

Which is, in of itself, the very source of domestic progression.

-AndrewP

Thats a good quote...I was trying to put that idea into words and couln't quite do it.

yeah, it's not about fighting the power, it's about taking the power back.

just like rage said.

And hoodratz........thats wrong...and you're wrong.

Toyota echo:

These are cars designed to make you feel good about driving..because they're 'good' for the environment.

I saw an ad for one, where leo dicaprio said 'I have four of these in my driveway..the world is a greener place'

or something similar..

made me laugh..

If you live in a city, use a fucking bicycle, and live close to where you work.

Take your bike on the bus.

What the hell is wrong with everyone............oh yeah, they're all fuckin lazy.

me too, but i still bike everywhere.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
shut up hippy..... your just some peroson who just sits and thinks about all the flaws of human kind.. jeasus. your on big ass negitinve nancy... so pretty much i need to get away form the 'group' i have to not watch tv. not eat cerial.. not drink pop. not drive cares.. not listen to music, oh yeah not ski. i just gave up skiing casue you convinded me i half to fallow all these lemmings.. i realy hope your a happy person riding your bike to your job(if you have one.) you need to live life and have fun. dont be concerd What group your in.... if u do you need some help to accept who you are.... peace bitches....

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
im jealous of no one. Accept responsibility for my life?

ok, no problem.

you're really the type of person i don't like...why you keep posting in my threads i dont understand..

I say fuck those things as a belief system..not to throw them away and never use them

i think your focus is way to small...you're standing too far from the window...go closer and you will see more.

oh yeah,

FUCK YOU.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
im sorry i dont live in a world with windows. i live outside it.. and i post casue i can... casue i want to.. have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
fuck to live, live to fuck.

'No its okay, I'm shaved' White Women

'I heard of Trimin the hedges, but you done scorched the earth..' Dave Chapelle.

patj
 
you are soo sleftritous.... it amazes me.. and yes iam a prick and i love it.. maybe if you did not write like in a poem form the entire time it woudl be more understandable...

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
''sleftritous''? Flagrant invention of a word. Shame on you. And Skipimp_ has been musing over the corporate structure for some time, and he's almost always right. All he's saying is that certain brands (no pun intended) of consumerism as a lifestyle are extremely societally irresponsible. Quit buying so much you don't need, quit listening to the ads and the companies trying to pressure you into keeping up with the Joneses, quit buying and buying and buying just because everyone else is, and we'll all be better off. Conformity breeds conformity, and in this case, that's not healthy.

Stop being a pawn on the corporate chessboard

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
I Write in a poem?

you, outside the house?

but you claim to love the house

need the house

clever, little gnome

your brain's like a little mouse

just make sure to wear a dome

cause I don't want your kids

inside of my home

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
what ever man.... just quit bitchign about human flaws of wanting to be accepted,,,,,, ill shut up now.

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
i believe pot opens th mind up so you are able to use more than 10% at a time. the shit i think of when blown is unreal, maybe i should write it down and make some moeny off it.

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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform
 
d-loc... do that and get back to us with it, thats gonna be interesting

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if your floating down a fiver in a cement canoe, and the wheels fall off, how many pancakes does it take to shingle a dog house?

NONE! ice cream doesnt have bones.....

 
i second what whoever it was who said keep it up. I enjoy your work.

'i' before 'e' except in Budweiser
 
Well some of the things you said 'fuck you' to are necessities, but I agree. The things is the 'small pack' just wouldn't last very long, even if when 'the small pack runs into trouble, they can rejoin, recharge' cause if you're talking about illegal stuff (even small stuff like sneaking into places) you would get caught and end it.

But living alone (I assume you are living above the poverty line) makes you materialistic (to different degrees), do you only have one set of clothes and wash it every night? Do you wash it by hand? If your five in your family, you need dishes... no dishes? Eating by hand? No table? Eating on the floor? It's kinda hard to merge into the 'herd' when you live like a hobo.

So I agree with the large and small pack idea, but I would have trouble finding friends who do, and you would have to still act and look relatively normal at school for example, or at your job...

**********

'Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.'

'I understand small business growth. I was one'

-Dubya!
 
skipimp i respect your non stop questioning of everything that is established or societally legitamized. but good god man, i can't remember the last time you posted something besides that. i urge you to explore other forms of philosophical ponderings.

song of the week to download: 'going up the country' by canned heat.

Jimmie Dimmick: 'I'm not a cob of corn, so you can stop buttering me up. I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is, all right? I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is. When Bonnie goes out shopping she buys SHIT. Me, I buy the expensive gourmet stuff because when I drink it I like to taste it. But you know what's on my mind right now? It AIN'T the coffee in my kitchen, it's the dead nigger in my garage.'
 
Wow, that was pretty intense.Skipimp, that was definately one very far end of the spectrum, too far for me to use in my life, but i definately like the idea.

My whole life I've had an underlying feeling that so much of the 'filler' in our lives is pointless. We keep focusing on all the things that we are told will make our lives complete and full, and then we are suprised to find out we are just as empty afterwards (and usually a little less respectable). Everyone says 'Live for yourself' or 'Be what you want to be' but almost no one (in the popular media at least) means it. They mean 'Be who we are, its slightly different than your parents. Not better, just different.' Its a little like junkfood I guess. It briefly satisfies our craving, but it doesnt fill us up and it actually leaves us worse off than before. What it all boils down to is that MTV can burn in hell.

The thing that drives me nuts about this whole topic is that if you mentioned the idea of thinking for yourself and living for yourself to anyone at your local high school they will immediately conjure up images of drinking all the time and sleeping with countless girls. I love skipimps schpiel so much because thats not what it says - 'nonconformity' and 'individuality have become so mainstream and homogonized that they have lost all their meaning. At this point, in my opinion, not conforming is going to church every week, wearing clothes you like (instead of what is 'cool' or simply what will piss your parents off), not drinking, and not being promiscuous. Im not saying everyone here should do these things, I just think that everyone should decide for themselves, with serious thought and consideration of consequences.

The last point to my ramblings (and possibly the only relevant one) is that skiing, to me, fulfils so much of skipimps post. On skis I can go out alone or with friends, and do what I want, and make it fulfilling for me. I can have adventures with my friends, the kind they portray in both movies and on roller coasters, except my adventures remain embedded in my memory forever as that time we almost died in the backcountry, or my first frontflip, or simply the most beautiful day ever. To me, this embodies living for yourself in its purest form.

I hope someone took the time to read through my long and sometimes asenine ramblings. Theres so much more I have to say, but sometimes you just have to realize when to cut yourself short.

Anyway, the moral of the story is: Fuck MTV!

 
moral odf everything on this post.. ski... have fun. be smart and know whats the machine is dooing to you..

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
yes it is... unless you give so little a fuck that you almost flunk out of shcool

___________________

Silly Rabbits. Pink is for cheese! –stevexs2

i love watching people get nutted. i hate seeing naked fat people getting the box munched - BallinBU

numbers are for jewish investment bankers - sleezemcfly

Basically, you have to fly planes into buildings before anyone listens to you these days. - Jib_This
 
yo

well, the first thing i have to say is Im a hypocriate....or maybe Im an idealist. Im materilistic according to the definition. I like the same shit..kinda...and have a lot of crap that ties me down. But i don't live for it. It's just an added bonus for being alive in this era. This time. I don't wish for a different time. I am here now, and i love now.

Ways of living I feel would work better for me, well, I like to put them into words.

I think a cupboard with less dishes would work beter for me, becuase then I wouldn't haev 2 sinks (who needs 2 sinks) piled overflowing with dirty crusty dishes..and sdon't say 'well just wash them after you use them' we all know that doesn't work..

unless you're an idealist.

Hoodratz. Im not really bitching. I don't feel so strongly about it as you think I do. I have found out that saying that stuff helps some people. It also pisses a lot of people off.

Alpinecowboy. You say it's time for me to move on. Oh, i assure you i have pondered many philosophical ideas and roads. Im ready to talk about anything you throw in the ?ring? on the table?

But thats the problem, i don't see many threads where other people are stepping up and posing those kind of ideas. True, I don't look that hard, there's a lot of crap to sift through..

but try me.

and pete (i think that was the name)

good summary, i dig where you're coming from.

anything else?...

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
well then im sorry for lashing out at you..... i just jumped to conclusions..

one more stoner thing....

hypocrocy is they only turth.. if your a hyporcrit you are not bond down by one thing.. your free to change your mind as you will and need to.. so i can say im a proudn hyprcrite.....(yes i relized i spelled it 3 differant ways but really who gives a donkey dick about it)

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
^ that is quite possibly the smartest thing ive heard you say... but yes... go be an idealist, theres nothing wrong with it... unless you grow out of it and are left disillusioned and worse off than before.

___________________

Silly Rabbits. Pink is for cheese! –stevexs2

i love watching people get nutted. i hate seeing naked fat people getting the box munched - BallinBU

numbers are for jewish investment bankers - sleezemcfly

Basically, you have to fly planes into buildings before anyone listens to you these days. - Jib_This
 
thanks.

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
Although I need more time to put my thoughts into a coherant structure I just wanted to let you know you articulated many of my thoughts very nicely, and I repsect the amount of time,effort, and thought you put into this.

 
your velcommen

apology accepted.

im used to the first impressions where people think (and rightly so) that im arrogant and outspoken.

But my only hope is that what i have said is enough for you to get past the first impression and go a bit deeper.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
well it made me think about not being such a doush to people.. so i guess your thing worked

/'/'/'/'/'/'/'/''Ultimately, almost all guys learn this truth for themselves: The best way to never score with a woman is to show too much interest in her.'
 
ha.

good shit then.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
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