Fuck the army

^ then enlist buddy, seems like ur all for it, so go ahead and go get killed.

the arms good for protecting us i will agree, but we arent being attacked anymore. fuck sakes its been over 3 years and we cant get our heads outta our asses for one second to pull out and make peace.

or wait, we can mak the decision, someone who has made a mockery of his time served gets to push all of us around and send our asses where ever he wants. he get s to call all shots and get people killed.

hey, atleast hes not going, BUSH = he, we wouldnt want anything to happen to a stuttering idiot would we?

who has done so much good for us, and brouhgt our economy to an all time low. but hey its all cool.

lets just fight for the rest of time, and see where that gets us.

maybe we can soon kill everyone off and be left with just a government of powerful, selflish, punk ass bitches know as autority.

hell if we need more authority over seas send cops and police men. they signed up for duty so ship them off. not peple in everyday life, who get an education to try and change the world and help.

lets send the idiots, police, over and fight... hell they dont even need education, i could be a bafling idot and be a cop

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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
Yes, that's exactly what I said, sim. And it's entirely consistent. The people I'm criticizing can say what they want, too. I'm not telling them not to post nor how to post. Only that I strongly disagree with the way they look at this thread. See how that works?

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I won't comment on the original post, it doesn't deserve a response. As far as what it has become... Some of you might know that I'm a Marine. I've already served in Iraq, and have done a tour in the far east, I know what it's like from the other side of the arguement. I can tell you that as goes for at least 98% of the military community that we don't fight for the honor and and glory of our country. First above all else, we do what we're called upon, and if we fight for anything it's for the other guys fighting with us. So many times some of the guys I went to boot camp, r met along the way come back from their time in Iraq and just want to go back because they fear for their friends over there. And I constantly hear dtories about guys from my base being severely wounded and the only thing they think about while recovering is going back to protect and fight alongside his friends. There's no doubt a bond not unlike a brotherhood is formed in a wartime situation, and it's nothing to be mocked. A soldier's reasoning to join is nothing to be speculated upon, my reason was I felt indebted to my country for the freedoms I enjoy, It never crossed my mind that I wanted to fight for the honor of my country. For the people that are over there right now, they're just doing what they're told to do, and not ne time when I was over there during the war iteslf did I hear a nationalistic pump up speach being made. The speaches that were given to us only stated that we were there for the sole purpose to oust Saddam and free the people of Iraq. I won't speculate what the speaches are about these days. J.D., you might be smart, you might be a philosepher, and you do have a point as to how our media and public at large portrays a fighting man/woman... But you should know more than most that you can't believe everything you hear, cause there's always a spin. Support your troops, because we support eachother, I think that sums up my thoughts...

'...Smoking's bad, smoking killed my dad. Yeah, he was driving down the highway one day and as he was lighting his cigarette, it blew out the window. So he jumps out the door to save it, and ran himself over. Uh, you mind if I smoke?' -Olie Ollaussen, Ski Bum extraordinaire
 
^ RIGHT ON... im tired of the news quite frankly. give me the weather and sports, not the bullshit lies day to day. i just tired of hearing the new say the same thing over and voer again, when they dont even know if its right or not. drowning the public with usless wrong info. i think their should be a law saying if you talk about false remarks you will be punished by law.

its getting out of hand with all the wrong info. i cant even believe 1 thing i hear.

so guess what, WHY LISTEN?

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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
Y talk? send the cops and fight? y dont u fight if all u can do is comolain and dont do anything?

Red Sox rule
 
^ME... are you speaking to me? cuz im anti-war and have stated i will never fight, cuz its wrong and not needed.

but if we must fight, since the public has no say in the decision, then im supporting troop even though i think its wrong. and their are other ways to solve problems, hence why i have never been in a fight

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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
actually...the public do have a say in the decision...they vote for who makes the decision!!

so they have the biggest say in it...as for your supporting our troops, i applaud you even tho you are anti-war bcz most of the anti-war ppl just make portests, which make matters worse, and put down the army which hurts their self-esteem and screws things up even more...i dont like going to war either, but i know it is a part of life and there will always be a war to be fought somewhere..i just wished it wouldnt be us, but since we are the superpower, it is our duty to protect the needs of other nations.

Red Sox rule
 
^ yeah but most of america is so clueless on what is actually going on that they listen to all the commericials and the news trying to decide.

when if you look at the commercials it sows each person as the bad guy. making remarks about one another that are stupid issues.

like do i really care if kerry served like he said he did?

NO, im going to pick him because i like his views not because of his services.

im trying to pick the best guy for the job and to help the US. not just pick someone that has served his country and done good.

look at the issues and believe what you want but the american population just believes everything said to them, and most is BS

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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
^Wow, are YOU a senator or something? I guess you're the one making the law right? Realistically speaking there's no way a draft would be enstated, but if you're into conspiracy and anti-government, and paranoid all the time, you'd probably believe anything you're told... Oh, like the other day I hear Japan was gearing up to invade Guam, did you hear that too?

'...Smoking's bad, smoking killed my dad. Yeah, he was driving down the highway one day and as he was lighting his cigarette, it blew out the window. So he jumps out the door to save it, and ran himself over. Uh, you mind if I smoke?' -Olie Ollaussen, Ski Bum extraordinaire
 
^actually buddy i stated back in the 10th grade 'i was against war in every manner and i would not fight since i feel was does no good. i will not kill for any reason.'

this statement with the witness of the teacher and 10 other people will keep me out of the draft. and im not tryig to bullshit you either. look it up for all i care. its stated that if someone has commented before, with the eye witness of others, that he is against the whole killing aspect of life he shall be not drafted for any reason.

so keep telling me im going somewhere, CUZ IM NOT.

plus ive had too many football injuries and baseball injurris with torn hip flexers to the max and bum knees. so theirs no way in hell they want me. plus i cant see :) an no lasers hitting my eyes.

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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
i'd just like to say thank you to the_friesz. marine, thank you for being as selfless as i hope to be someday. I dont know your rank, your name, or your MOS, but no matter what they are, you are still one of this country's finest and you dont get the respect you deserve from pigs like jaross. but the majority of America prays for people like you and will continue to do so. Thank you Marine.

-Joe

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You're welcome... Although, to me it's just a job... I'm a Cobra helo mech, I've been in for 3 years and have still yet to get past E-3, it's a slow MOS to get promoted... Opinions, never the same, an argument that'll never end. Speculations, truth, lies, and myths... What we will never know, everyone already knows all too well. But still, jaross, I saw your sig last week and saw this coming, and even though this is on the net, it's pretty disappointing that someone can think so low of a servant of your freedom, and at the same time claim to have the answers to our problems...

'...Smoking's bad, smoking killed my dad. Yeah, he was driving down the highway one day and as he was lighting his cigarette, it blew out the window. So he jumps out the door to save it, and ran himself over. Uh, you mind if I smoke?' -Olie Ollaussen, Ski Bum extraordinaire
 
Aggrosk8, that's exactly what I was talking about. And the fact that you say you hope to be like that too some day... Jesus, that scares me. I hate to think there are more people who think that way, but at the same time, I know there are. If you're going to join the army, don't do it to be a hero, don't do it because it's inherently and automatically noble and honourable to fight for your country, because it isn't. Do it for the right reasons.

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A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

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Always...
 
so, what i got for what the frisz said was that war is good becuase it creats commrodary. what were you thinking before you inlested or went to boot camp??? im assuming you were thinking that you were bing noble in fighting for your country and shit like that........

''I enjoy debating, not ragging on people. Ridicule is usually a waste of time and often falls on deaf ears. I avoid it when possible, unless I feel it is necessary. I only post in threads like this if I have a point that I feel is urgent to present. It is no secret indeed that people like to do a bit of 'ass ridding'. Sometimes, however, it can be unnecessary.'' - Quinney

since i didnt fully mean my first post and i did it to prevoke discussion and controversy, i like to think i sparked a rather nice debate.

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I dont know JD, thats an awfully thin line you're on there. By telling them to 'let it be,' it kinda seems like you're saying dont post. So you tell me if you see how I see how that works.

signatures are for pussies

 
modern armies are all wrong if the human race is to evolve in unity. and bro dont back down on your word, it makes you look pussy like heaps of fucked up liberals out there. bro just keep to your word. although it may not always be right, people will respect you more.. and true though fuck conservatives and guns!

Being from New Zealand means your from the best fucking country in the world!

Fuck Brash

Fuck Bush

Fuck Blair

Fuck Howard.
 
i dont support the troops heaps of them are fucked up egotistic freaks. fuck that.

Being from New Zealand means your from the best fucking country in the world!

Fuck Brash

Fuck Bush

Fuck Blair

Fuck Howard.
 
ive maintained for quite some time now that jaross would be the one to inherit the banner of lagwagon-esq thought. i see now that instead, they may be forging an alliance. this will be for the entertainment of the ns community.

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
wow, jd. just because i want to be completely selfless, doesnt mean im gonna join the army. to be selfless means, you DONT care for the glory or honor or respect. to be selfless means to work in the dark where noone will ever know what youve done. and to do it with that attitude in mind. i want to live my life doing right and helping others, and i want to be able to live my life without caring if i ever get credit for anything

im sorry i want to help this country jd, maybe its just an inherant flaw in my recessive genetic makeup, i only wish my children will be as perfect as you. i prob wont end up as a soilder, but i do plan on someday joining the FBI, to serve domestically.

-Joe

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Rollers of NS unite!!!

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I'm conservative, just so you all know.

Member Number: 5172

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im not nessisarly bakcing down. i posted it to spark debate and to see how pissed off people will get. and while i may beleve what i said, if i was jsut trying to say it, and not spark such a dabate (and see what happens when people get pissed off) i think i would have said it in a less offensive way. oh well, whatever.

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dude, no matter how you state it, you'll get backlash

-Joe

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Rollers of NS unite!!!

603 for life

I'm conservative, just so you all know.

Member Number: 5172

Golden Wheel Chair Award 2004-09-21

 
I would like this Jaross fucker to go to France and walk the graveyards of Normandy full of crosses as far as the eye can see and say to those graves 'you were all idiots'

Jaross, you disgrace my past and present family.

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Hey, now he's backing down from backing down! What a loser. (Sarcasm)

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
''I would like this Jaross fucker to go to France and walk the graveyards of Normandy full of crosses as far as the eye can see and say to those graves 'you were all idiots'

Jaross, you disgrace my past and present family.''

WW2 is a totally 100% differnet issue. although i probably wouldnt have suppoerted that one either becuase we only got into the war becuasse hitler was gonna take over the world if we didnt; we didnt actually care about the jews. and also, my satatment does not appily to people who were drafted!!! (you will also notice i say 'this post does not appily to people who signed up to the army jsut for money or educational reasons'. what i am refering to is known as the poverty draft (getting poor people to fight for us becuase the army pays them) so naturally i would be sympathetic to people who were drafted.

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many who volunteer sign up to serve their country, I don't think any sign up because they want to kill people

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well mabey not many but some sure do. this kid at my school is serous and he is like, 'im oging to be a sniper in the merines. i cant wate till i kill someone'

but you have to EXPECT to be violent and kill people if you join the army, especially if your country is in a war.

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chances are he will probably be weeded out within the first few weeks. Contrary to popular belief, SF are not blood-thirsty rambos, rather diplomats that can fight. I know this because I read a book that was about 700 pages long about their training and such.

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Well, the Army is paying 100% of my University tuition plus books. My entire undergraduate degree, with possibly more.

I've gotten to see much of the world because of the army. I have received good training, aquired good skills, and have 'world' experience.

So, hope you enjoy your HUGE loan and paying back your education for the next 10yrs after graduating.

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'this statement with the witness of the teacher and 10 other people will keep me out of the draft. and im not tryig to bullshit you either. look it up for all i care. its stated that if someone has commented before, with the eye witness of others, that he is against the whole killing aspect of life he shall be not drafted for any reason.

so keep telling me im going somewhere, CUZ IM NOT.'


And someone else will be going in your place. I'm a conscientious objector too, but I still oppose the draft because it means that people (who may even be unaware of the attainability of C.O. status) will be sent against their will to another country to kill and die. I can't and won't stand for that.

'WW2 is a totally 100% differnet issue. although i probably wouldnt have suppoerted that one either becuase we only got into the war becuasse hitler was gonna take over the world if we didnt; we didnt actually care about the jews.'

No, WWII really wasn't that different. We just look back at it through rose-tinted glass, but it was a horrible war and there were better ways to win than using nuclear force. For more on that see my article 'A Memorial to the 42,000' here

To quote the Hippies: war is not the answer.

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I'm an atheist/moralist.

My parents were hippies. Both my grandfathers were Mennonite conscientious objectors in WWII. It's complicated.
 
Hmmmmm.

The states were isolationist and they didnt do anything anywhere. They only went to war because they were attacked first. This pissed people off.

The states are now cosmopolitan, or seemingly 'aggressors,' going into areas that is in the worlds' interest to make better. This pisses people off.

Hmmmmm.

signatures are for pussies

 
to the ignorant asshole who started this post... first off, if i ever meet you, i'm gonna punch you dead in the face. bottom line. i have no idea where you got this half-cocked notion that the state of whats goin' on over there is peachy... i've had an uncle over there for over a year, and it isn't fuckin' peachy. You try wakin' up everyday in 135 degree heat, puttin' on 80 lbs of gear and protecting the integrity and values of what you believe in, not to mention, the 150 soldiers my uncle commands in Tikrit, and their families back home, as well as his, and all the while you have those motherfuckers planting bombs as our EOD teams (explosive ordinance disposal) have to go find them before they kill another half dozen troops, or themselves. The guys over there may not agree with the war itself, or how its being conducted, but they honor the vows they took to protect a country that's been violated, as well as our own, and they are standing to not let it happen again. I'm not starting a 'agree with the war or not' arguement, but regardless you ill-minded jackass, you should support every fucking soldier we have over there, and the civilians that are working for haliburton, ya know, the guys getting kidnapped and beheaded... if you took your immature uneducated head out of your own ass, and listened to what is going on and took the time it would take to understand it, you wouldn't have opened your mouth and proved how fucking ignorant you are.

if you have the inclination to even try to have a response to that, i gladly await the opportunity to read more mindless fuckin' banter from an idiot.

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^ you must be right

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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life
 
no, i'm not saying i must be right, but considering i get emails monthly from my uncle vaguely telling me about the missions he commands and how many people he knows that have died, and the conditions... shall i keep going? without being there myself, i have a pretty solid base of knowledge on whats goin' on... i'm not stating any personal opinions.

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QuikRYDE44, i have all the respect i can give for you and your uncle, i appreciate his service and your loyalty...May God help you both

Red Sox rule
 
your a piece of shit....your prolaly just too much of a pussy and didnt make it in you fucking pussy

ripple chip, 180 dumpshoot, reverse, rewind, grab
 
^Please avoid your ingenious comments in the future.

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T-Money: brbrb
 
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''oh ya, one more thing, we are hypacrytical assfucks becuase we make ou like everything is peachey and that our soliders in iraq are doing jsut peachey.''

that is the quoate of mine where i mention peachey. if you notices, i was saying that we act like they are peachey, when they are not! Bush acts like everything is going over well, just as planned. Fuck dude, rumsveld says that a crappy election in iraq is good enough. he said somthing to that extent, i saw on the Daily show. now i know it is the daily show but they dont change what people say when they show video clips....

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i thought you were jewish

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
Well, I get to respond! I think you as well as many other on this site have a love for misconstruing crystal clear statments. I said we only fight when we're called upon, so where in there did I say we fight when our county's honor is under attack? I remember about 3 years ago a couple planes we're driven into some buildings in NYC, that, was a physical attack. A war on terrorism was declared, and since Saddam was a known harborer of terrorists, and a financier we attack them. Since you're basically focusing on our present situation I used that as an example of being called upon. Now, that we were sent there to fight, and we're still there I used the comraderie that is formed in the heat of battle for the main reason to carry on. Do you really think that if everyone couldn't give a fuck about everyone else that anyone would be out there fighting today? I think I spelled it out pretty clear that I joined the military to give back to my country because of my inherent debt that all of us owe to those who have fought and died for what we have today. Just a side note on that jaross, WW2 was not started because of the threat from Hitler, remember Pearl Harbor? FDR was doing everything in his power, negotiations, trade agreements to keep our country neutral. It wasn't until the Japanese attacked our country and killed thousands of our fighting men and civilians in an unprovoked surprise attack that we came into WW2. Because of military alliances that were in place back then; by declaring war on Japan we were also declaring war on Germany because of their alliance with Japan, although I think it was Hitler that declared war on us before we officialy targeted them... Please just read the post, I personally can't believe this thing is still going, were there pictures of hot girls on this thread earlier or something?

'...Smoking's bad, smoking killed my dad. Yeah, he was driving down the highway one day and as he was lighting his cigarette, it blew out the window. So he jumps out the door to save it, and ran himself over. Uh, you mind if I smoke?' -Olie Ollaussen, Ski Bum extraordinaire
 
they may harbour terrorists, but you dont see a connection to 'al kaida' think about that statment for a second.

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
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