Fuck global warming...

Snow cover over North America and much of Siberia, Mongolia and China is greater than at any time since 1966.

The

U.S. National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) reported that many American

cities and towns suffered record cold temperatures in January and early

February. According to the NCDC, the average temperature in January

"was -0.3 F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average."

China

is surviving its most brutal winter in a century. Temperatures in the

normally balmy south were so low for so long that some middle-sized

cities went days and even weeks without electricity because once power

lines had toppled it was too cold or too icy to repair them.

There

have been so many snow and ice storms in Ontario and Quebec in the past

two months that the real estate market has felt the pinch as home

buyers have stayed home rather than venturing out looking for new

houses.

In just the first two weeks of February, Toronto received

70 cm of snow, smashing the record of 66.6 cm for the entire month set

back in the pre-SUV, pre-Kyoto, pre-carbon footprint days of 1950.

And

remember the Arctic Sea ice? The ice we were told so hysterically last

fall had melted to its "lowest levels on record? Never mind that those

records only date back as far as 1972 and that there is anthropological

and geological evidence of much greater melts in the past.

The ice is back.

Gilles

Langis, a senior forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa,

says the Arctic winter has been so severe the ice has not only

recovered, it is actually 10 to 20 cm thicker in many places than at

this time last year.

OK, so one winter does not a climate make.

It would be premature to claim an Ice Age is looming just because we

have had one of our most brutal winters in decades.

But if

environmentalists and environment reporters can run around shrieking

about the manmade destruction of the natural order every time a robin

shows up on Georgian Bay two weeks early, then it is at least fair game

to use this winter's weather stories to wonder whether the alarmist are

being a tad premature.

And it's not just anecdotal evidence that is piling up against the climate-change dogma.

According

to Robert Toggweiler of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory at

Princeton University and Joellen Russell, assistant professor of

biogeochemical dynamics at the University of Arizona -- two prominent

climate modellers -- the computer models that show polar ice-melt

cooling the oceans, stopping the circulation of warm equatorial water

to northern latitudes and triggering another Ice Age (a la the movie

The Day After Tomorrow) are all wrong.


"We missed what was right

in front of our eyes," says Prof. Russell. It's not ice melt but rather

wind circulation that drives ocean currents northward from the tropics.

Climate models until now have not properly accounted for the wind's

effects on ocean circulation, so researchers have compensated by

over-emphasizing the role of manmade warming on polar ice melt.


But

when Profs. Toggweiler and Russell rejigged their model to include the

40-year cycle of winds away from the equator (then back towards it

again), the role of ocean currents bringing warm southern waters to the

north was obvious in the current Arctic warming.


Last month, Oleg

Sorokhtin, a fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences,

shrugged off manmade climate change as "a drop in the bucket." Showing

that solar activity has entered an inactive phase, Prof. Sorokhtin

advised people to "stock up on fur coats."

He is not alone.

Kenneth Tapping of our own National Research Council, who oversees a

giant radio telescope focused on the sun, is convinced we are in for a

long period of severely cold weather if sunspot activity does not pick

up soon.

The last time the sun was this inactive, Earth suffered

the Little Ice Age that lasted about five centuries and ended in 1850.

Crops failed through killer frosts and drought. Famine, plague and war

were widespread. Harbours froze, so did rivers, and trade ceased.

It's

way too early to claim the same is about to happen again, but then it's

way too early for the hysteria of the global warmers, too.

 
Yes, global warming exists

Yes, it is over hyped

Yes, this article is pointless other than the bolded parts in the post above me which bring up a good point.

No, you cannot use one winter as the basis of an anti-global warming campaign (but the article agree)

No, there is absolutely no problem with caring for the environment in the first place.

Respect where you live. You live on planet earth. Take care of it.
 
my problem is the media frenzy around a planet that is constantly changing, who's processes we hardly understand, and attempt to explain these processes erroneously.

global warming is a theory, not a fact.
 
damn right evolution is a theory... people need to realize that there is a shit ton out there we just don't get, and randomly slapping a label or explanation on it is not going to solve the issue...theories are just that, a possible explanation, not the end all and be all.

I see nothing wrong with respecting the planet, although it is pretty typical behavior on our part to neglect something until we believe it is on the brink of destruction. Gore is a fear-monger, and he did his part expertly.

i feel like i just repeated my previous post...hrrrmmmmm...
 
and since there was a bolding party, i thought i'd give my contribution

Last month, Oleg

Sorokhtin, a fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences,

shrugged off manmade climate change as "a drop in the bucket." Showing

that solar activity has entered an inactive phase, Prof. Sorokhtin

advised people to "stock up on fur coats.

 
because mother nature works in strange and mysterious ways, which sometimes involve saying fuck you to a certain region for a period of time
 
well i think we're generally on the same page then. The media's version of Global Warming is a fear-mongering attempt to push a carbon tax in the future which people will most likely accept because they have no knowledge of what is actually going on not to mention the fact that it distracts people from how badly we are raping the earth itself, not just the atmosphere. I am still unsure of the extent of global warming that i believe in personally, but I do believe that it is incredibly over-hyped. Because of this uncertainty, people need to take action and make sustainable choices. Even if GW doesn't exist, we are still ruining the place all 6 billion of us live. hopefully this was all coherant.... i'm tired as shit.
 
Do I believe is global warming, NO

Do I believe in global change, YES

What is a fact is the ENERGY CRISIS!

alternative energy sources need to become more efficient, YESTERDAY!

with a chance for there to be 4.00 a gallon gas prices, its going to kill the economy.

 
Well this is definitely NOT what I've been saying to everyone who's like "global warming aaah everyone buy super expensive veggie oil cars" for the past year now.

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but for real, there could be something else we haven't accounted for and we could be wrong. It's still not a bad idea to recycle and help protect our environment. I personally have had a great winter with a ton of snow, same with last year. So...global warming hasn't really affected us up here too much yet.
 
global warming does exist

my ant is head of noa in the cribbian (sp) heres what she says " the melting of the arctic glaciers and polar ice caps have caused the ocean to become diluted and that has messed up the deep ocean currents that bring warm water from the equator to colder areas
 
One thing global warming does is increase the snowfall arctic areas recieve. Its part of the process...
 
personal i like it we have sick snow not to be ignorant but it really doesant effect us it will probably be major problem in 500 years
 
One effect of Global warming is more precipitation (SNOW) in areas that already get a lot of precipitation (SNOW) so to a skier, it sounds fucking sick. PC is having record breaking snowfalls. I'm totally for global warming.
 
I really hate it when people on both sides of the argument cite isolated incidences. Global warming is a theory about GLOBAL temperature change, and colder or warmer in regions is absolutely piddles on this scale. We need to be watching stuff like ppM of particles in atmospheric layers and average sea temperatures. It takes an enormous amount of energy and effort to change any of these, and thats the shit we need to be aware of, not (as I read before) robins returning a week earlier or sea ice rebuilding.
 
Its a theory. So is gravity. Something can still be observed routinely and consistently and still be a 'theory'.
 
Not at all. Many people see "theory" and automatically assume its either unproven or absolute truth. Its neither. Theres evidence to support it, but also evidence against it, and the ratio of such changes nearly daily.

Theories and definitions be damned however for the more to the point topic. Pollution sucks. We need to keep our world cleaner.
 
well you havnt been properly enlightened, if the media keeps shoving it down my throat, and holds it to up be fact, it has to be true.... your just some closed minded polluter who doesn't care about our planet.. I mean if Al Gore said it, it must be true, right?

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good job dude!
 
i think it was shortandconfused who said that he believes in global change or something along those lines.....

i definitely believe in global climate change... our planet is billions of years old, our race is maybe 200,000 years, just to hammer the point home, do you think we really understand how our home planet works?
 
Yes, global warming exists, or maybe its just typical weather patternsYes, it is over hypedYes, this article is pointless other than the bolded parts in the post above me which bring up a good point.No, you cannot use one winter as the basis of an anti-global warming campaign (but the article agree)No, there is absolutely no problem with caring for the environment in the first place.

the rest of the argument is good. there is no good reason not to care for the enviro, we were given it to take care of
 
Does no one care abotu the fucking sunspots? The sun basically drives our climate, and this sun is changing and going into a period on inactivity where there about 50% less sunspots. The sun will always have more effect on the earth's climate than humans.
 
you are right, and i am down for taking care of planet, reasonably. what i mean by that is i will do practical things to help the environment, or at least not hurt it.

Examples: Carpool. Less pollution, but really it's just easier and costs less.

 
you are right, and i am down for taking care of planet, reasonably. what i mean by that is i will do practical things to help the environment, or at least not hurt it.

Examples: 1. Carpool. Less pollution, but really it's just easier and costs less.

2. Recycle, it's pretty easy to recycle your plastic bags and such and it's better for the planet.

3. Turn lights off to save energy. you usually don't need lights on when you are not in a room or at home so you might as well turn them off and save a little dough.

In all honeslty though, most things like these don't have much of an impact at all. basically just don't dp stupid crap that blatently harms the shit of the environment and i could care less.

What pisses me off is all of this fear mongering bullshit and innaccurate facts that everyone believes and simply isn't true. Also there are a lot of things that will supposedly save us from global warming!!! omgz!!!1!1! that are impractical, don't work well, expensive, and generally speaking don't have much of an effect.

Examples: 1. Replacing all incandescent light bulbs with compact flourescent light bulbs. This costs some money, the lights i don't believe can be place on dimmer switches, and they can be quite toxic if ever broken and require proper cleanup and disposal.

2. Living in a smaller house. There are actually people and companies dedicated to building and living in super tiny ass homes to try and single handedly save the world. There are people who are living in only couple hundred square foot homes, yes you heard that correctly, and companies dedicated to making them cus they want to stop "global climate change!" to me that is just plain stupid, and completely impractical.

3. Buy a smaller car. Believe it or not, buying smaller fuel efficent cars does not have as much of an impact on the envirmonment as you might think. Plus, have you ever seen a Prius? They look stupid, have pussy ass horsepower, no space to put anything, and if you get in an accident with anything larger than mo-ped, you are gonna get seriously messed up.

I have no problem with taking care of the earth and finding alternative fuel sources, but lets do it inteligently and with logic and please stop lying to everyone and trying to scare the shit out of them.

 
right and wrong.

the correct way to say that would be "the mass media's portrayal of global warming=biggest scam ever..."

To say that we, as humans, have no effect on our planet/climate is just ignorant.
 
we as humans dont effect the earth's climate.......the sun does..their are hot spots and cold spots on the earth....if we as humans had an effect on the climate/planet thier would be a hole in the ozone above every major city..
 
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