French school lunches stomp American shit

you don't need to make everything about the US vs. Canada. no one fucking cares! it seems like every time i come on here these days this incessant bullshit is going on. we know it's your national pastime to compare Canada to the US, but this thread is about fucking school lunches in France and man do they look good. i could never front and say i would not want that type of food every day for lunch. i never bought the school lunch when i was in school b/c it was so gnarly. i think they have a really good program going in France and it seems to work for them. Unfortunately, I don't think that would fly in the states. and i am just curious, where in Canada are you from?
 
If you notice I do say that I'm not even suggesting that Canada is that much better than the states (my only real comparison was the debt figures to be honest). When I said inbred hick fuck I was referring to the gnarly women who worked in the kitchen in my high school (rural Ontario). My original point like 4 posts ago was the the food looked fucking bomb compared to anything I'd ever seen at a highschool so why wouldn't anyone want that instead? Wasn't trying to turn this into a Canada vs. USA thread, just surprised by the stupidity of certain members is all.
 
ok ok ok i have calmed down since my last post. we're cool now. i never really read the whole thread and just post wherever. im gonna work on that
 
I love France. French people get a bad rep - so what their a little arrogant giving the food, culture and basic all around lifestyle winning they have I don't blame them.

They also brought me the croissant and the pain au chocolat. For that they have my undying gratitude.

Vive La France!
 
Haha, like there aren't people from anywhere else than Canada critizing the US on here.

Yes, people do care. It's the world's national pastime to compare.
 
railbomber, I have to ask, do you know at all what the fuck you're talking about? You just linked me to wiki you dumbass- I can tell your intelligence doesn't fall far from your resources. I never said we wouldn't have to pay it back, but tell me this, when was the last time we were forced to? Uhh it hasn't happened. Everyone tweaks out cause the numbers are out of control, oh god, China is going to overtake Amurica cause we couldn't pay off debt! Everyone operates on debt- debt that probably will never be paid back- a point any economist past the age of 16 would realize. And in case you've ever watched t-bill auctions (which I doubt you have, based on your resources) you'd realize that over the past few years, we've actually borrwed money on 0 interest at times. 0, and the auction sold within minutes. Tell me about something thats not worth its value, you uneducated jackass. People are willing to give us money with no return, you wanna talk about risk- I'll dance, but bring me something that makes you sound a little more educated.
 
if they parents dont care why should we. Since I'm paying for it, feed the kids flavored nutrient enriched cardboard.
 
Tensions between France and America date back to the ending of WW2, when the Americans liberated France and French generals took all the credit. Since then it has just been blown out of proportion.

Like it or not France's (and many other countries) high tax system works. Why do you think they have done so well economically speaking through the recession and the USA is racking up debt in the trillions?

There are two sides to the coin, the reasonable one and the ignorant one, guess we know what side you're on.
 
haha why so much french hatred? people boosting like candide and kevin rolland should make u realize that ur probly a bigger pussy than the average french person...all because of ww2... nobody ever stops to think maybe the french just didnt care?
 
Like it or not, many US companies have done alright though the recession. As well, almost every single US company rebounded and are now past their 07 numbers, before the recession. The funny thing is, America sentiment has been 41% seeing the economy getting worse over the last year while only 31% said it was better... yet we've been in a bull market for the past, umm 15 months. The reasonable side is just as ignorant as the side I'm on, its just people like you that feel the need to act like your side is better. I was just throwing out a valid, highly arguable point above, but I can see that the "reasonable side" has 'clearly' shot it down with figures and stats. The problem is too many people that aren't educated on economics, business, and finance in general weighing their opinions where they probably shouldn't.
 
yeah alright, guess the reasonable/ignorant statement was not warranted, some people just seem close minded until they explain themselves.
 
and frodo france is in as deep if not deeper trouble than the us financially. calling france an economic success is rediculous... they are about to be the next greece along with spain and ireland
 
No problem- I'm not as close minded as it comes across as, I just like to spark up debates. Is the US system flawed? Certainly. Is the high tax, high government service approach flawed? Certainly. I just like participating in (taking the minority side) of arguments like this.
 
Tensions between France and America date back to the 18th century when we fought a war with them. Then we fought a quasi war with them at the turn of that century.

We also fought against the French in WWII, as well as plenty of other small instances between 1801 and 1943.
 
which war in the 18th century would that be? Oh shit the...naval battles, i think?

Tension first came about in 1793, when the US refused to help France fight britain and the various other nations trying to invade france after their revolution. And i can understand why. Basically the French saved the US in the revolution, and then they needed a bit of help and the US refused. Though in 1793 i can understand why the US might not help. They barely functioned as a nation yet.

World War II was defeated France, the puppet government the nazis used in vichy. I think thats a bit of an exception.

The real problems seem to come from the US remaining neutral and making money off both sides of various wars. It also seems like most of the tension over the years just comes from misunderstandings and personal grudges because one side or the other didn't reciprocate something.

overall though its been one of the longest lasting foreign relations the US has had with anyone.

 
I actually include the 7 years war as an American war with France. While we may have been under a britsh flag, the local population was very much Americans. There was latter the quasi war with france in the late 18th century over shipping in the west indies.

Moving on to WWII, in the initial invasion of North Africa it was the French Army we were fighting against. At times we were also fighting the French Navy. It was not untill affter securing the surrender of the French in North Africa that we moved on to fight the Italians and Germans.
 
You never conducted war with cafeteria food? Pretty sure I threw some food at a French kid or two. Those deep fried Brock balls look like they would make some great missiles.
 
Wow... It's people like you that are the problem with the economy in your country (in a long term sense). If foreign countries decided to withdraw their invested money in your national debt your on the road to national bankruptcy and potentially (very likely) a stock market crash. Your stimulus package (financed with money your government doesn't REALLY have) ended this month and the worlds been waiting to see what happens (I myself withdrew my equity investments in favour of safer long term investment strategies so that IF your economy does tank without the stimulus package I don't lose as much of my money). I'm not an "uneducated jackass" as you've so eloquently stated above although I admit I'm not an economist. But I digress; The fact that your so ignorant about your national debt frankly scares me slightly, although I highly doubt most Americans who have any opinion on the subject are quite as misinformed as you.

I linked Wikipedia because I believed you to be an idiot, although now I'll toss out some real information if you'd prefer to read it instead.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL34314.pdf

From above pdf document by James K. Jackson Specialist in International Trade and Finance Foreign Affairs, Defense, and Trade Division:

Sudden Withdrawal from U.S. Treasury Securities:

The large holdings of U.S. Treasury securities by foreign governments have led some observers to consider the prospect of a withdrawal from the U.S. Treasury securities market by a single foreign government. At the first hint that a foreign government was attempting to liquidate all or even a large part of its holdings of U.S. Treasury securities, the price of such Treasury securities likely would plummet in U.S. securities markets and the market rate of interest would rise, perhaps appreciably, in the first few hours or days. For instance, on November 7, 2007, a report, that was later repudiated, asserted that Chinese officials were considering shifting some of China’s foreign currency reserves, reportedly worth $1.4 trillion, in dollars and in such dollar-denominated assets as Treasury securities, out of dollar-denominated securities. Acting on the report, investors sold securities and the dollar. As a result, the broad Dow Jones industrial average plunged 360 points in one day and the dollar sank against other major currencies.14 In response to the fall in the exchange value of the dollar, indexes of equities markets in Europe and Japan also fell.

quoted from economist Bruce Bartlett of Forbes: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/196135/foreign-ownership-our-debt-threat-u-s/veronique-de-rugy

“While the U.S. Treasury has never issued bonds denominated in foreign

currencies, it is conceivable that it could be forced to do so if the

dollar falls sharply and foreign demand for U.S. bonds wanes. That will

be the point at which our debt problem becomes more than theoretical and

we are really on the road to national bankruptcy.”

So yes, you might not have to pay back your debt right now, but the implications of such extreme foreign debt ownership are very long term and serious.

Yet again, Lrn to Economy

To everyone else sorry for the mammoth post, just can't handle when people are this ignorant

 
post wasn't intended for you or anyone other than ThomasJefferson

Bolded the part at the end where I said sorry to everyone else for the mammoth post
 
my school lunches are hoem cooked everyday, we hired 2 chefs from a restaurant and he cooks lasagna, chicken pesto with brown rice, grilled cheese, beef dip, and dope soups. I haven't brought a lunch all year. way to fucking good and healthy
 
I'm sure the preschoolers are really enjoying their gourmet sustenance. /sarcasm I feel this is one of the reasons they're given the snotty attitude stereotype, because they're grown up on 1st class shit.

Also, unless that second school in the video has a huge budget, I wonder what percent of it goes to just lunches while it could be used for textbooks/other learning essentials.
 
fuck that, keep school lunches shitty. if you dont like it, bring your own food. we dont need yet another thing to waste our money on. i honestly did not give a shit what our school lunches were like, no fucking 4th grader is going to bitch because their food isnt prepared by some world class chef, and made out of organic/ doesnt mean its good for you, expensive ass ingredients..
and honestly school lunches usually arent bad. sure the food isnt "high quality" whatever that means, and organic. but what we call organic food is arguably worse for you anyway, not only that but it doesnt last as long and costs more.so my vote, keep serving cheap food, kids will still get their protein and veggies, just not in an attractive looking form.. oh and yay for us being america and not france! nothin against france, but im happy with america being america and we do not need to try to be someone else by wasting money on useless food for snobby kids.
 
If foreign countries decided to withdraw their invested money in our debt and there was a stock market crash, what exactly do you think would happen to those foreign countries? No, we wouldn't go to war with them, yes we'd be in trouble but did you ever begin to realize how intertwined everything is? Those countries pull out, the stock market crashes, US crashes as does the rest of the world. You won't get back all the money you put it because we simply can't fund it. You wanna talk about a world wide disaster other countries aren't willing to take? And you're really wondering why it hasn't happened yet? I won't begin to argue that the stimulus package wasn't dumb, I was in favor of companies failing.
 
haha no way man, it doesn't last as long because it isn't chemically preserved. it costs more because it's more expensive to produce using crop rotation and without pesticides. In no way could you argue that organic food is worse for you.
 
organic farmers still use pesticides, but because they cant be synthetic pesticides, they are restricted to using "natural" pesticides that can be more harmful. the word pesticide and chemical have turned into this bad word that everyone associates with bad health cancer and disease. 99.9% of the chemicals humans ingest are natural, chemicals produced by the plant to protect itself. just because its a chemical doesn't mean its bad, just like because something is natural doesnt mean its good for you. notice the chemicals plants produce are for defense, meaning, in most cases to harm predators/insects, protect from fungi etc... the pesticides we spray on are for the same purpose, but because we can develop them and arent restricted to using "natural" chemicals, we can make it more safe to consume than the pesticide that the plants naturally produce to harm insects/predators(us).
the word natural is bullshit anyway. i dont really see how you can eat something that isnt natural, if it exists, it came from the earth in some way or another. we just have the ability now to combine and produce these chemicals to be more effective and safer than all the harmful chemicals that exist in nature.
if you really think that "organic" is safer, go completely organic (not the bullshit definition of organic most hippies shopping at whole foods buy into) go eat your fruit/veggies straight from the ground, where they grow wild, without any human influence, drink your water straight from streams before we have the chance to harm it with our purification process using our chemicals. go kill your own food, eat the meat raw, hell even cooked. dont use any of our processed goods and see how long you last...i actually think it would be badass to see people living like that still, but it is no way healthier, your lifespan will be about half of what it would be now. but still, it would be a pretty cool way to live. until you died at 50.
 
That is one of the most ridiculous 'paragraphs' I have ever read. I agree with the first part of your post about people misinterpreting 'chemical' etc... but what is your rationalization between eating wild meat and veggies and fruit and dying young? Just because someone wants to 'live off the earth' why would they be unable to boil their water? cook their meat? From what you are saying if I eat food that I have hunted in the wild I will die at a young age. Are you effing serious? What does purified water have to do with 'organic' food? I ask because I seriously want to hear the rationalization behind your argument.
 
I agree the dying young part doesn't make much sense to me, but he's saying there's a difference between what most people think organic is vs. what natural is.

@xtrene11, you're water from the streams argument doesn't make sense. You're saying for a person to go completely "organic" they need to drink water straight from streams/other bodies of water, but water is inorganic.. Unless you meant to say "natural" there instead which would make more sense.
 
what i meant is that for someone to be/eat totally organic, consume nothing that isnt what we(or I)interpret as natural or organic. meaning only eating things as they come in nature. sure you could boil water and cook your meat. but there are so many more parasites and bacteria that you would be exposed to. and you wouldnt have our processed medicines to help you get better when you do get sick.look at our average life expectancy today compared to 200 years ago, we live over 20 years longer today. i know there are many factors, but our food/medicine has more to do with it than anything else, because we have a much lower risk of catching some disease because our food, water, and everything we consume is grown, purified and prepared in a controlled environment, usually using chemicals, even in the case of "organic" farming. and we have extremely effective medicine for when we do get sick.

 
im still gonna have to disagree. unless your eating the shittiest food, like mcdonalds and tv dinners for every meal. if you eat, for the most part good quality food your harming yourself less than if you were eating it straight out of the ground.
 
i know a shit ton about it. my uncle owns a farm and ive spent many years working on his as well as a couple others, organc farms included.
 
What if it's food that you've grown yourself? is that bad for you? Just wondering... I understand some issues surrounding "organic" food and how it has comparatively low yield, different chemicals, etc. but I'm not sure I understand the argument that eating stuff out of the ground is bad for you. I grow my own vegetables in the summer and the only thing we use is potato bug powder and that's only if we get an infestation. I also harvest wild foodstuffs like fiddleheads, wild garlic, berries, marigolds, etc. and would like to hear reasoning behind the dangerousness of this (other than 'mistaking it for the wrong plant') so I can take it into account.
 
I spent two weeks in Serre Chevalier visiting my sister this winter. She's an English TA at a large highschool, and I ate the French lunches everyday. They were bomb. Everyday you'd get a big piece of fish or some meat, a pile of vegis, a piece of bread, half a wheel of cheese, and a bunch of other goodies. Some of the stuff was a little weird, but thats expected when you travel and are eating things you haven't eaten before.
Everyone I met was really nice. my sister and I were invited to a few dinner parties, where everyone (even the teenagers) would sit around and get tipsy, telling stories, and eating food. Everyone in France is much more social then here in the US. The ladies were also fineeee. Virtually no one is obese in France. They eat real food, and they actually exercise regularly because they walk around everywhere. I hated leaving, it was amazing over there.
 
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