FOX ATTACKS IRAN!

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FOX ATTACKS IRAN

I remember very clearly the daily fearmongering led by FOX as they cheered for war with Iraq. The 24/7 images, sound effects, yelling and threatening were an ever-present drumbeat for war. We had to invade, and we had to invade now.. anyone who didn't see that was a traitor. They viciously attacked those of us who worked to get out the truth.

You'd think that with the complete failure in Iraq, those days would be behind us. Sadly, you'd be wrong.

FOX wants war with Iran.

It's shockingly real. We've already compiled over 4 hours of FOX footage... the same images, sound effects, yelling and threatening that led the U.S. to invade Iraq is happening right now to sell a war with Iran. They are saying the exact same things!!

Here is the video evidence, side-by-side with what they said about Iraq.

This time is different though. We're prepared, and we have the means to alert people to what FOX is doing. Everyone has seen the terrible tragedy and the awful price paid by so many Iraqis and Americans. We know this is coming, and we can stop it.

It was about this time in the lead-up to the Iraq war when the other TV networks started following FOX's lead. As CNN's Christiane Amanpour says in the video, they were intimidated by FOX into cheerleading for the Iraq war.

WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN.

This is a critical moment, and we must send a message to the major television networks urging them to ask tough questions, be skeptical, and tell us what is really happening. They must not follow FOX down the road to another war.

We've put together an open letter to the networks. Will you sign it?

Please pssst the video and forward it to everyone you know. We must raise our voices now. This is so important, we cannot let history repeat itself.

Sign the Open Letter

Tell the networks not to follow FOX down the road to war

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Dear ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN,

"My station was intimidated by the administration and its foot soldiers at FOX News."

That is CNN's Christiane Amanpour explaining why the major television networks failed to accurately inform the public in the lead-up to the Iraq war, choosing instead to follow FOX's lead.

Now, FOX is beating the drums for war with Iran. Robert Greenwald's short film, "FOX Attacks: Iran", outlines the evidence from the station's own broadcasts, comparing their reporting before the Iraq war with what they are saying now about Iran.

You have a sacred responsibility to the American people to provide accurate and reliable information so we can best make the decisions which affect our lives. We urge you to accurately and thoroughly report all sides of this important story.

Please do not blindly follow FOX down the road to another war.

Fox Attacks Iran
 
all of the major networks in america do this, not just fox.

But they are the most prevalent in doing so.

 
I havn't flipped FOX news on since......hmmmm.....no thats not it....let me think some more and I'll tell you later
 
fuck fox. Why dont they just take all their employees and go to war with Iran? What? Are they afraid to die? I hate propaganda
 
For once I agree with something you said.

Iran is not a fucking threat. Iran has never waged war on another country, ever. Even if they wanted to, they're still in the infancy stages of uranium enrichment... going nowhere fast. Once Bush is out, we won't have to worry about this bullshit.

If we went to war with Iran, we would get our asses handed to us so badly. You think Iraq was a tough cookie? Well try Iran where all they practice with their military is defense. It would be a turkey shoot.
 
"Iran is not a fucking threat. Iran has never waged war on another country, ever." -Tell that to our brave soldiers who are fighting Iran militants and Iranian made weapons everyday in Iraq. Tell that to the Kurds who just a few days ago were bombed by Iran.

"Even if they wanted to, they're still in the infancy stages of uranium enrichment... going nowhere fast." -I wish you were right.

"If we went to war with Iran, we would get our asses handed to us so badly. You think Iraq was a tough cookie?" -Where were you in 2003 when we crushed Iraq's military in just a couple of weeks?

I am not by any means saying that we should invade Iran. I just think that a government who has publicly stated that there ultimate goal is the ANNIHILATION of the United States and Israel should not be labeled a "non threat"
 
"Tell that to our brave soldiers who are fighting Iran militants and Iranian made weapons everyday in Iraq. Tell that to the Kurds who just a few days ago were bombed by Iran."

- Name one country that Iran has OFFENSIVELY attacked. If a country was invading one of our allies, we would get involved such as they are. Iraq in the first place was an unjustified war. That is fact. That makes it even worse for our brave men and women of the military. I pray for their well being everyday because they are doing something so that we don't have to so don't get me wrong on that.

"I wish you were right."

- Will you please enlighten me on why I'm wrong? Please.

"Where were you in 2003 when we crushed Iraq's military in just a couple of weeks?"

- Have you been with us in the past four years where we still face major resistance, only now making some progress?

As for your last statement, show me something to give that some validation as that Iran wants to annihilate the U.S.

 
just because you think we could militarily defeat iran makes you think we should go to war with them? irans army is far more powerful than saddams army, and do you think we are winning this current war, militarily or morally? and besides, most of the weapons the insurgents use have, at one point or the other, passed through some sphere of us influence. we are the largest arms dealer in the world, period. besides, since when is there any arms shortage at all? it would make no difference if iran, china, or we were supplying insurgents with arms, the fact of the matter is that weapons are easy to find. iran has nomeaning behind there statements, and iran has NEVER promised to annihalate the us. they pose no signifigant threat to us, i am sorry.
 
newsflash: ALL OF THE NETWORKS WANT WAR

i'm so sick of all the talk from conservatives about how the media is liberal-contrlled and from liberals about how the media is conservative-controlled. the networks are not liberal or conservative, they are corporations. their goal is to make money. war with iran would help all of their ratings.

as for the networks blaming fox, that's just a convenient way for them to help their own ratings by taking advantage of the conception that "fox is conservative." fox is not pro-bush, they're pro-money, just like all the others.

 
Four hours?! No way!! It's almost like they're a news network, trying to sell news!! It kinda like they're using shock value to gain viewership!!

It's Fox. Don't worry about it. Believe it or not, Fox News was not the reason the US at war in Iraq. Nobody takes Fox News seriously, and four hours isn't that much on-air time spent discussing Iran for any network.
 
"Name one country that Iran has OFFENSIVELY attacked. If a country was invading one of our allies, we would get involved such as they are. Iraq in the first place was an unjustified war. That is fact. That makes it even worse for our brave men and women of the military. I pray for their well being everyday because they are doing something so that we don't have to so don't get me wrong on that." -That's not the point. The problem with Iran is that they will arm and harbor terrorist organizations that can potentially attack the United States, just like the Taliban in Afganistan.

"Will you please enlighten me on why I'm wrong? Please." -Nearly all estimates show that Iran will have the capability to produce a nuclear weapon in the next 5-10 years. That is a fact. Just google it. Also there is a very distinct possibility that they could surprise us with a bomb just like Pakistan and South Africa (South Africa has since dismantled the program).

"As for your last statement, show me something to give that some validation as that Iran wants to annihilate the U.S." -Ok, here you go http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/27/ahmadinejad.reaction/index.html Read down the page and you will see that Ahmadinejad said that he wishes to wipe Israel off the face of the earth he looks forward to a day without Zionism and the United States.

 
1. irans president never said he wanted to destroy israel. that is 100% bullshit. the media lied and twisted his words

2. our government has misplaced hundreds of thousands of weapons. where is the proof iran is arming any insurgents? there is no fucking proof

if we were to go to war with iran it would be for israel. plain and simple. iran is one of the most moderate muslim countries, it is ridiculous how bush's goal is to turn iraq into a stable moderate democracy then makes it clear he would bomb iran. wtf? why? i posted the video yesterday of faux news spewing out pentagons propoganda, most of you dont see it but we most likely will go to war with iran. this country is so fucking stupid and so apathetic , we will not stand up and deny the neocons another war, we will let them fuck us up the ass again. our best chance is honestly Ron Paul. not fucking barack obama or hilary or any of the libtards, they are just as corrupt as giuliani and romney. the media and government lied us into iraq, they are so arrogant they are doing the same thing about iran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-eyuFBrWHs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Erys2sense%2Ecom%2Fanti%2Dneocons%2Fviewtopic%2Ephp%3Ft%3D8367

stupid teenage kids will keep joining the military, stupid fat americans will keep voting in neocons, we will keep the whole thing going because we are stupid.
 
another thing, for all those people out there who say dont take fox seriously or themselves dont take it seriously. go watch The Goebbles Experiment. Propoganda is a weapon.
 
"That's not the point. The problem with Iran is that they will arm and harbor terrorist organizations that can potentially attack the United States, just like the Taliban in Afganistan."

- Saudi Arabia is invested in a little over two percent of our entire economic system, naturally, with that comes our support to them. Funny how we do not associate Saudi Arabia as a terrorist state. We are the biggest arms dealer in the world to other countries. We have armed terrorist states and do support them. We can't afford not to.

"Nearly all estimates show that Iran will have the capability to produce a nuclear weapon in the next 5-10 years. That is a fact."

- The capability to produce a nuclear weapon; do you know what that even means? That means in five to ten years, they will have just figured out to make one, not have what it takes to do so. And this is all assuming that Iran is even pursuing this. Last time weapons inspectors were in there-

A little side note: UN weapons inspectors were allowed in Iran to inspect their program with the promise they could continue it. After everything was given the go ahead, America perused sanctions still on Iran to stop their program breaking that promise. This is why Iran is not letting in anymore UN weapons inspectors because of that. Can you blame someone for not cooperating with us?

- they found out that Iran couldn't even get one centrifuge running correctly to separate the uranium in order for the purification process to begin. In Bush's word, he said that it would be only a few years until they are capable of producing a bomb; yes but that is assuming that Iran figures out how to get a correctly running centrifuge, and to have a few thousand of them running 24/7 for that many years. This is why it's highly unlikely Iran would be a nuclear armed power because they are still figuring out the basics.

"Read down the page and you will see that Ahmadinejad said that he wishes to wipe Israel off the face of the earth he looks forward to a day without Zionism and the United States."

- As Eleven said, that could easily been taken out of context and if not, going to war on an off-hand comment... may God have mercy on us.
 
someday you will realize how wrong you actually are. do you think these people hold these kinds of feelings for no reason. NO THE REASON IS ISREAL AND THE UNITED STATES HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SCREWING WITH THESE COUNTRIES FOR YEARS AND YEARS. THEY ARE FED UP WITH IT AND WANT US TO LEAVE THEM ALONE ITS REALLY NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX YOU FUCKING COOKIE CUTTER ASSHOLE
 
How about you do something called getting educated. Most of what I learned about Iran was from a former UN weapon inspector who was part of the group to go in to Iran. He continually visits Iran.

I'm not shooting down what you call the truth, I'm just telling you that it isn't the truth with some FACTS of my own. So, when are you going to grow up and realize that there's more to it than what a White House representative tells you?

I believe the term for what just happened to you was, pwn3d, sir.
 
And may I add that your idea of going to war with someone because you think they're evil is downright foolish. This is how we ended up with the giant blood-fed mess formally known as Iraq.
 
I never said I wanted to go to war with Iran. War is absolutely always the last option. All I am saying is that Ahmadinejad and his government is evil, and I am not basing that off of a "white house representative" or whatever you said. I'm making my judgments on what the guy has to say. I respect your opinion and you have some good things to say but I think disregarding Iran will cost American lives in the future.
 
And we are not. Thus the constant watch. The problem is that Bush is pushing for more severe sanctions, and the evident goal of military action on reasons that extend no further than that "they don't seem like good guys".
 
And we are not what? Also more severe economic sanctions does not mean war is imminent. All Iran has to do give up its nuclear arms program, adhere to the NPT, and stop supplying terrorist organizations with arms and manpower.
 
i agree with everything they are saying, but i think it's a bit ridiculous that they are saying fox caused the war with iraq
 
Why should they? They're getting fucked over more times than you think and they economic repercussions of all that would destroy them. It's not an option. You have to have some concept that things are not as easy, cut or clean as they may seem. It's also a little hard to adhere to someone that has already fucked you over once.
 
Whatever economic repercussions are caused by the terms that I listed can easily be reversed by the lifting of sanctions that are already in place and the business that the United States and other countries could do with Iran, especially through the oil trade.
 
I thought of something different and valuable to this thread, but it seems like most of it has been said... surpizingly too i'm agreeing w/ skiierman a bit here.

but for mr d[ouche]bag- "when all [we] do is shoot down the truth by calling it propaganda" please read a book called The Best War Ever. To the rest, isn't it sad how our government has created propaganda based off a different interpretation of a "fact" and have promoted it SO much that they now can no longer tell the difference between what is true and what they've twisted.
 
I think we all know about how bad the American news networks are, nothing more needs to be said on that subject. But I wouldn't pait Iran in such an innocent light.

Is Iran a worldwide threat? No of course not, but are they innocent? No. Everyone knows the Rev. Guard Corps is supplying the Shi'a insurgency with weapons and support, its been on the news, and despite what's normally on the news, this bit is actually true. I don't agree with the Iraq war, but if you have issues with something, the proper way is to engage in diplomacy or engage in regular warfare, not underhandedly supporting an insurgency. Iraq is a Shi'a majority long ruled by the Sunni minority, and Iran has everything to gain from arming the Shi'a groups there to push out the last bastions of Sunni influence in the area.

Moreso than the nuclear issue (who cares about that honestly, we're not bombing North Korea are we?) I'm concerned with them arming the bad guys. The only remaining question is does the Gov't of Iran actually calling for this or is it the Rev. Guards acting on their own.

I could go on but nobody would care.
 
no one would care? why bother going through this reponse then?

obviously we all care if we're engaging in such discussions on a site dedicated to skiing.

and no one said Iran's government and policies were innocent. Just like ours is not, nor nearly every other nation for one various reason or another. The point of this thread though as been to hopefully not make the american people slightly responsible (don't read into "responsible" like it sounds... i'm trying to say that there was hardly any dissenting to the Iraq war in 2003 and if the american people had protested much harder and not been fooled by propoganda, than perhaps we'd be in better shape here)... again, slightly responsible for another uncalled for, unethical war.
 
Wholly responsible, no doubt. But, it's only because the youth have been trained to realize the futility of their dissent. In modern America, it is illegal to assemble without a permit, and you will never get a permit for a 'large-scale anti-war protest', so nobody really does it, and nobody has the balls to risk getting jailed for it either given the current climate.

And I only said nobody would care because I could write and have written hundreds of pages about the mid-east theater and I think its beyond the scope of a ski forum ;P

I know in reality everyone's concerned genuinely and that's a good thing.
 
so the 200k ak's and 50k pieces of body armor that were meant for the iraqi police missing dont bother you? dont you think that THAT might be whats arming the "insurgency"? also i wouldnt say we shouldnt worry about irans nukes because we havent done anything about korea, iran is alot closer to israel then north korea. its not just ak's and bodyarmor missing either.
 
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