so i was browsing around online, and wandered across powder.com where they have a follow up piece about an article they ran last year. in this piece steve cabellero has a response about the whole "cab" deal in skiing. pretty cool to read, and on the next page they link you to the original article. well worth your time to check it out.
Found this interesting article...
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NickMartini
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linkage?
TheButterHashira
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for the lazy
In our December issue, Derek Taylor wrote a humor piece called “Tricked Out,” in which he calls out skiers for stealing names from skateboarding. Key to this story was the fact that skiers have been calling backwards tricks “Cab” after skateboarding legend Steve Caballero. As expected—even intended—the story generated a few angry letters from young skiers who didn’t like being compared to Stuart from Beavis and Butthead, one of which appears in our upcoming September issue.
This made us a little curious. How does the Man himself feel about skiers using his trick name? So we decided to find out. D.T. dropped an e-mail to Steve, who is famously humble and approachable. This was his response.
I think it’s pretty cool that my name or trick has crossed over to the skier scene/industry. It’s an honor to be recognized in another sport for something I invented in 1980 for skateboarding. My question to skiers is: Do they even know why it’s called a Cab 9 and where the name of the trick stems from?
BMXers, rollerbladers, wakeboarders and snowboarders have also used my name in reference to tricks that start fakie and spin a 180, 360, 540, 720 and 900. I think it’s pretty cool that they refer a fakie 180 to a half Cab, even though part of doing a half cab or a full Caballerial (a fakie 360 ollie) requires a person to do an ollie, and I don’t think you can actually ollie in any of those others sports I just mentioned!
The Caballerial was first invented in a pool in 1980, then the half-cab (half of what I had done) was invented a few years later by either Kevin Staab or Tony Hawk. I’m not sure which one it was, but I think Kevin did it first before Tony.
But back to your initial question, I just think it’s pretty funny, because other sports have twisted the meaning of the trick to fit into what they were doing to mimic skateboarding, which is pretty cool and very flattering to me that our sport is so highly recognized, even in other sports.
I’m honored and very blessed to have influenced so many people with the gifts and talents that God has given me in my lifetime.
Thanks,
Stevie Caballero
In our December issue, Derek Taylor wrote a humor piece called “Tricked Out,” in which he calls out skiers for stealing names from skateboarding. Key to this story was the fact that skiers have been calling backwards tricks “Cab” after skateboarding legend Steve Caballero. As expected—even intended—the story generated a few angry letters from young skiers who didn’t like being compared to Stuart from Beavis and Butthead, one of which appears in our upcoming September issue.
This made us a little curious. How does the Man himself feel about skiers using his trick name? So we decided to find out. D.T. dropped an e-mail to Steve, who is famously humble and approachable. This was his response.
I think it’s pretty cool that my name or trick has crossed over to the skier scene/industry. It’s an honor to be recognized in another sport for something I invented in 1980 for skateboarding. My question to skiers is: Do they even know why it’s called a Cab 9 and where the name of the trick stems from?
BMXers, rollerbladers, wakeboarders and snowboarders have also used my name in reference to tricks that start fakie and spin a 180, 360, 540, 720 and 900. I think it’s pretty cool that they refer a fakie 180 to a half Cab, even though part of doing a half cab or a full Caballerial (a fakie 360 ollie) requires a person to do an ollie, and I don’t think you can actually ollie in any of those others sports I just mentioned!
The Caballerial was first invented in a pool in 1980, then the half-cab (half of what I had done) was invented a few years later by either Kevin Staab or Tony Hawk. I’m not sure which one it was, but I think Kevin did it first before Tony.
But back to your initial question, I just think it’s pretty funny, because other sports have twisted the meaning of the trick to fit into what they were doing to mimic skateboarding, which is pretty cool and very flattering to me that our sport is so highly recognized, even in other sports.
I’m honored and very blessed to have influenced so many people with the gifts and talents that God has given me in my lifetime.
Thanks,
Stevie Caballero
NickMartini
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leggit, but a pretty typical response
well with all those other sports he talked about, skateboarding is the only one where it isnt really "attached" to the body..all those other ones use bindings or boots of sort, in biking you hold the bars and through that help with jumping and shit...i guess if you factor that into the whole definition of an ollie then yeah, skateboarding is the only one that you can ollie in. but in most aspects i guess ollie-ing is just jumping eh?
snowboardersrule
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the editor's reply to steve's letter shows how little most people know about this topic. even the editor doesn't understand what an ollie is. technically, you have to move your front foot forward on a skateboard to ollie. so, that can't be replicated in other board sports. maybe wakeskating though.
michael_bc
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I think the Derek Taylor article is pretty useless. This discussion is so pointless.
Snowboarders take names from skateboarders, I think it's obvious why. And then I don't see why skiers and snowboarders shouldn't use the same names for the same tricks, they're practically doing the same sport different equipment. Why complicate things?
PS. I've always wondered what happens when you show up to a snowboarding competition with two snowboards strapped to your feet.
Snowboarders take names from skateboarders, I think it's obvious why. And then I don't see why skiers and snowboarders shouldn't use the same names for the same tricks, they're practically doing the same sport different equipment. Why complicate things?
PS. I've always wondered what happens when you show up to a snowboarding competition with two snowboards strapped to your feet.
emopoppins
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they call you a skier, and disqualify you because your skiing.
thanks for the read, interesting article
thanks for the read, interesting article
I like the story. It provides clarification for everyone--skiers, snowboarders, wakeboarders, and others.
Taylor's right in that we can't, technically speaking, do a trick switch or fakie or Cab when skiing. We're going backwards.
And I'm pretty certain the editor's comment at the end was a total joke about olleing off the lip.
Taylor's right in that we can't, technically speaking, do a trick switch or fakie or Cab when skiing. We're going backwards.
And I'm pretty certain the editor's comment at the end was a total joke about olleing off the lip.