I like my public enemies, good all mountain, mine are 06/07s and they are broken, but still skiable after 250+ days skiing and alot of that is backyard setups/urban, so extra abuse. they are a pretty tough ski, I find they are pretty easy to butter but I'm 180 lbs and have pretty strong legs. They are kinda heavy for fast spins, but not bad and really stable. good all mountain ski, good switch . not as good as Karmas though for all mountain. this is a good deal though. someone grab em.