Folsom skis is getting lit up on Instagram

14412288:hunternay_10 said:
Leave it to the dumbass to shit on someone for grammar and then make a mistake his next post

Tf bro just leave me alone okay. I'm just trying to defend the native americans rn. All you racists out here are tryna flip the script and call ME hateful for calling all you retards retards
 
14412289:DeadB said:
Dude you clearly don't care about native-american lives so just go ahead and say it already. You're a nazi trump voter.

I’m actively dating a Native American, and have been for 5 years, and voted for Biden in Arkansas. What are you talking about dude.

And then call me a racist for asking a question that didn’t even have anything to do with race, but was actively trying to clarify, But claiming you’re the one being bullied, go back to your ultra-lib commune in Cali man, nobody thinks like you in the real world.

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14412064:DeadB said:
Folsom skis rock bro. All these haters need to go fuck off, bunch of broke ass liberal timberline kids with their 20k tuition just to work as a ski instructor, bunch of morons. They are just paying respec to the natives, idiots will defend skiing in a durag listening to nas. Then get all pent up when a ski company uses a indigenous art style. Piss off.

14412285:DeadB said:
Folsom quite literally stole them, copy and paste. Its an atrocity bro, I think folsom skis might be retards or siomething

Pick a side Kamala
 
14412292:hunternay_10 said:
I’m actively dating a Native American, and have been for 5 years, and voted for Biden in Arkansas. What are you talking about dude.

Funny how you can date someone of indigenous background and not support their artists. You make me sick, also you called me a libtard yet you voted for Biden? Somehow I don't believe you, stop lying. You don't date anyone ur single and probably 16 years old. Dummy.
 
14412295:DeadB said:
Funny how you can date someone of indigenous background and not support their artists. You make me sick, also you called me a libtard yet you voted for Biden? Somehow I don't believe you, stop lying. You don't date anyone ur single and probably 16 years old. Dummy.

Funny, my socials are in my account if you wanna go look, I’ll even throw you a follow if you want. Seems like you might need them

And again, How does me asking a question of what the issue is make me not support indigenous artists…you’re making so many assumptions for absolutely no reason

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14412292:hunternay_10 said:
I’m actively dating a Native American, and have been for 5 years, and voted for Biden in Arkansas. What are you talking about dude.

And then call me a racist for asking a question that didn’t even have anything to do with race, but was actively trying to clarify, But claiming you’re the one being bullied, go back to your ultra-lib commune in Cali man, nobody thinks like you in the real world.

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2022 at 12:35:50am

This dude definitely voted
 
14412297:hunternay_10 said:
Funny, my socials are in my account if you wanna go look, I’ll even throw you a follow if you want. Seems like you might need them

And again, How does me asking a question of what the issue is make me not support indigenous artists…you’re making so many assumptions for absolutely no reason

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he's trolling
 
14412291:DeadB said:
Tf bro just leave me alone okay. I'm just trying to defend the native americans rn. All you racists out here are tryna flip the script and call ME hateful for calling all you retards retards

Dude you're such an epic troll thank u for your valuable contributions to this site
 
14412297:hunternay_10 said:
Funny, my socials are in my account if you wanna go look, I’ll even throw you a follow if you want. Seems like you might need them

And again, How does me asking a question of what the issue is make me not support indigenous artists…you’re making so many assumptions for absolutely no reason

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do you think I'm stupid bro, I could tell by your remarks that you are a fucking racist. and now you're tryna get followers out of this?? really dude take a step back and think about how you sound right now, seriously you're such a clown. I'm not even gunna give ur profiles a look because you are so beneath me little man. to really own up to your mistakes is something you seem incapable of instead you just fall into a trap and bury urself. lets look at this my way... you come on here and ask a question but clearly having a bias to 1 side, of course I'm gunna call you out on it. now you get all defensive. you clearly don't understand ethics very well, do I have to spell it out for u this much?? Call me kamala again and you'll see the consequences, I have people on my side that are very strong and could mess u up if you said this to me in public.

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I think we should all calm down and take a minute. This isn’t a contest to prove who is better or anything like that. There is a long history that informs people’s experiences and honestly it’s pretty bitter and negative against indigenous people with few exceptions. I think it’s important to realize and understand who’s land you’re occupying- your house and mine was built on a parcel of land that was occupied for 10,000 years prior to our ancestors arrival so I don’t think it’s too much to ask to show a little respect.
 
14412306:Casey said:
I think we should all calm down and take a minute. This isn’t a contest to prove who is better or anything like that. There is a long history that informs people’s experiences and honestly it’s pretty bitter and negative against indigenous people with few exceptions. I think it’s important to realize and understand who’s land you’re occupying- your house and mine was built on a parcel of land that was occupied for 10,000 years prior to our ancestors arrival so I don’t think it’s too much to ask to show a little respect.

Fr all these mountains we ski on belongs to the native peoples Casey has a very valid point

So many racists on this forum though I got kinda angry I apologize for my actions

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14412303:DeadB said:
do you think I'm stupid bro, I could tell by your remarks that you are a fucking racist. and now you're tryna get followers out of this?? really dude take a step back and think about how you sound right now, seriously you're such a clown. I'm not even gunna give ur profiles a look because you are so beneath me little man. to really own up to your mistakes is something you seem incapable of instead you just fall into a trap and bury urself. lets look at this my way... you come on here and ask a question but clearly having a bias to 1 side, of course I'm gunna call you out on it. now you get all defensive. you clearly don't understand ethics very well, do I have to spell it out for u this much?? Call me kamala again and you'll see the consequences, I have people on my side that are very strong and could mess u up if you said this to me in public.

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Scary, for some odd reason, I now feel like you are the single 16 year old

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14412309:hunternay_10 said:

Yo I'm sorry we can agree to disagree, I think native artists should be able to make a livlihood and you don't its all good we can just put it in the past bro, we good?
 
14412309:hunternay_10 said:
Scary, for some odd reason, I now feel like you are the single 16 year old

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2022 at 1:02:12am

WOOOOWWW, really buddy. I'm turning 15 in april first of all, and my best subject in school is social studies so you can shut up.
 
14412311:DeadB said:
WOOOOWWW, really buddy. I'm turning 15 in april first of all, and my best subject in school is social studies so you can shut up.

Oh congrats, glad to hear you got to puberty! And you got your grade up from a D to a C!! You’re making big progress buddy
 
14412310:DeadB said:
Yo I'm sorry we can agree to disagree, I think native artists should be able to make a livlihood and you don't its all good we can just put it in the past bro, we good?

and i agree with you, you’re the one who assumed I didn’t.

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14412313:hunternay_10 said:
and i agree with you, you’re the one who assumed I didn’t.

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Then why do you keep arguing with me about it??? somehow I'm more mature then you, and I have an 96% in social studies dude, best in the whole district. You're pretty much talking to the guy who knows the most about indigenous peoples, You're a bad partner to your girlfriend and you can't even drop ur ego for a second and take a lesson. Embarrassing for u honestly.
 
14412315:DeadB said:
Then why do you keep arguing with me about it??? somehow I'm more mature then you, and I have an 96% in social studies dude, best in the whole district. You're pretty much talking to the guy who knows the most about indigenous peoples, You're a bad partner to your girlfriend and you can't even drop ur ego for a second and take a lesson. Embarrassing for u honestly.

Between your obvious jokes and your less obvious jokes I really can’t tell if you’re being serious or not anymore
 
meanwhile.. just a few years ago

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14412316:hunternay_10 said:
Between your obvious jokes and your less obvious jokes I really can’t tell if you’re being serious or not anymore

I don't recall telling any jokes. The only joke here is you, you're the kind of guy to just follow the crowd. I can tell by the way you type ur sentences, I eat sheep like you. I'm a wolf, I have strong opinions that u just can't handle, cause ur a sissy boy.
 
14412319:DeadB said:
I don't recall telling any jokes. The only joke here is you, you're the kind of guy to just follow the crowd. I can tell by the way you type ur sentences, I eat sheep like you. I'm a wolf, I have strong opinions that u just can't handle, cause ur a sissy boy.

I actually identify more with a turtle as my spirit animal
 
14412295:DeadB said:
Funny how you can date someone of indigenous background and not support their artists. You make me sick, also you called me a libtard yet you voted for Biden? Somehow I don't believe you, stop lying. You don't date anyone ur single and probably 16 years old. Dummy.

looks like this dudes literally not lying hahahaha
 
14412326:Jems said:
looks like this dudes literally not lying hahahaha

Only fans of Call her daddy can have that opinion. I do fuck w the milfhunter quote. Core as fuck.

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2022 at 1:30:43am
 
guys i think we need to stop and consider all the indigenous skiiers who have been harmed by a lack of consultation here
 
14412334:mrk127 said:
Still no pics of the graphic in question

id like to imagine its something actually horrible like having "residential skool is kool" in a script with a penis shaped totem pole just so that everyone in this thread is wrong
 
14412338:iced said:
id like to imagine its something actually horrible like having "residential skool is kool" in a script with a penis shaped totem pole just so that everyone in this thread is wrong

Ya, that would be incredibly ironic
 
And here i was thinking ski gabber ran out of good threads.

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2022 at 2:34:25am
 
Wow this thread has gone to absolute garbage. What a surprise.

Im still waiting to see the graphic in question. While I do agree that supporting an appropriate artist within a certain culture is a good idea, when is cancel culture going to stop.

How dare any ski company exist that isn’t Norwegian (or Chinese I suppose since the origins of skiing are up for debate). Any ski company not owned, manufactured in or by Norwegians / the Chinese are profiting off someone else’s culture and it needs to stop.
 
Somebody should tell these lunatics about this praxis topsheet called “Navajo” before some Indians get offended

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14412198:IsaacNW82 said:
Lots of hearsay going on here, Nahanni's (who is in fact Native btw) IG story isn't up anymore but this is the gist of it (from memory, take the details with a grain of salt):

She was doing some type of project (school maybe?) about indigenous graphics and the ski industry and came across a ton of Folsom graphics labelled "cultural" like a dream catcher. She asked if the artist was indigenous in an IG comment and they DM'd her basically saying this should be an email and that she was cyber-bullying them. So, she deleted the comments and sent them an email asking the same question.

They replied super defensive, indicated they don't care what ethnicity makes their graphics (and implied it was wrong for Nahanni to ask), the graphics where legally Folsom's IP, there was a hang up about a ski graphic based off the Hudson Bay Blanket design. Apparently, Folsom was defending it saying an employee from upstate NY came up with the idea, and Nahanni replied saying that the Blanket was used to intentionally spread disease to Natives in Canada, and gave them a few book titles about the matter.

I personally have never heard about the Hudson bay Blanket before but here's an article about its complicated history if anyone is interested:

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/unreserved/uncovering-the-complicated-history-of-blankets-in-indigenous-communities-1.5264926/the-complicated-history-of-the-hudson-s-bay-point-blanket-1.5272430

I don't remember if Folsom responded or not but they did block her on IG and removed the graphics from their website, which prompted her posting about this publicly. She said she doesn't like cancel culture and didn't think she'd go after someone like this but after their interaction she thought it was justified.

quoting for visibility.

idk, seems uninformed and fucked up to me. this is not a case of ambiguous indigenous symbols being used on a ski; this is a situation where a symbol of violence is unintentionally being glorified. imo, it's like putting a noose on a ski and then being salty when someone calls you out on it. doesn't sound like folsom responded very gracefully either.

not sure why people are so interested in defending folsom on this one lol
 
14412388:mattytru said:
quoting for visibility.

idk, seems uninformed and fucked up to me. this is not a case of ambiguous indigenous symbols being used on a ski; this is a situation where a symbol of violence is unintentionally being glorified. imo, it's like putting a noose on a ski and then being salty when someone calls you out on it. doesn't sound like folsom responded very gracefully either.

not sure why people are so interested in defending folsom on this one lol

Was it the Bay Blanket design that people are claiming Folsom "culturally appropriated"? Still no one has posted a single photo of this offending artwork, so I'm not sure. But what you're talking about is the Bay Blanket and its "violent" history. The Bay Blanket isn't a native American design. It was created in England, by wHiTe PeOpLe, and traded to natives. So to the extent it is now being used for profit by canadian or american "natives," they are the ones culturally appropriating it from Europeans.

But its also been debunked the blankets were intentionally used to spread disease at all. And to the extent it occurred unintentionally, there is only a spotty record that it may have happened a single time ever.

So what did Folsom do wrong again? They weren't nice when they sent an email defending themselves?
 
14412266:DeadB said:
Are you retarded or what? you need a lesson in ethics little man. " I just wanna buy what I like" okay retard go buy some heroin then, clearly you've done so much of it that your frontal lobe is severely damaged, you get confused over basic ethics. You really think that some belegana can just swoop in and make money off of native culture and ancestry, whites have already taken so much.

Man we really out here comparing ski top sheets to heroin eh?
 
yea definitely think that folsom had a really bad reaction to the criticism but god damn this graphic goes so hard

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who is behind coalition snow anyway

I have never seen the skis before and they were trying get get msp #canceled a year after releasing the film all in which was mostly female skiers
 
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