Fluoride & the Pineal Gland

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If you don't know anything about the pineal gland, you probably should. It's very important in hormone regulation, sleep cycles, dreaming, and theorized to be linked to near-death and mystical experiences probably related to DMT production. It has been called the "seat of the soul", as many believe that it is the bridge to the spiritual realm. It resides in the center of the brain, and is apparently the only part of the brain that isn't duplicated with left and right lobes of some sort.

It is literally the THIRD EYE, and has many of the same characteristics of your two better known eyes.

The pineal gland contains calcified tissue and crystals that are extroidinarily sensitive to flouride uptake and retention. While tap water with fluoride content up to 1ppm (and often 4ppm in parts of the US) is considered "safe" by regulatory agencies, the pineal gland has been shown to contain an average of 9,000ppm and up to 21,000ppm fluoride content in a small sample of Brits. And the UK only had about a 11% fluoridation rate compared to America's 70%. Not to worry though, the UK is now mandating that ALL water sources in the country be fluoridated (all cities in the US already are I believe).(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3018313.stm)

I'm considering buying a reverse osmosis filter to clean my water, or buying certain bottled water maybe. And using baking soda to brush my teeth. You can't totally get away from it in our society, but you could definately lower your intake substantially.

ITS FUCKING RAT POISEN FOR GODS SAKE.

Fluoride & the Pineal Gland: Study Published in Caries Research
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2006/12/30/fluoride_accumulates_in_pineal_gland.htm

The wheels of science grind very slowly. Finally, the first half of the work that was the subject of Jennifer Luke's Ph.D. thesis; presentation in Bellingham, Washington (ISFR conference) in 1998 and a videotaped interview I had with her (see www.fluoridealert.org/videos.htm), has been published in Caries Research.

In my view this work is of enormous importance and could be (or should be) the scientific straw that breaks the camel's back of fluoridation.

When Luke found out that the pineal gland - a little gland in the center of the brain, responsible for a very large range of regulating activities (it produces serotonin and melatonin) - was also a calcifying tissue, like the teeth and the bones, she hypothesized it would concentrate fluoride to very high levels. The gland is not protected by the blood brain barrier and has a very high perfusion rate of blood, second only to the kidney.

Luke had 11 cadavers analyzed in the UK. As she predicted she found astronomically high levels of fluoride in the calcium hydroxy apatite crystals produced by the gland. The average was 9000 ppm and went as high as 21,000 in one case. These levels are at, or higher, than fluoride levels in the bones of people suffering from skeletal fluorosis. It is these findings which have just been published.

It is the ramifications of these findings which have yet to be published. In the second half of her work she treated animals (Mongolian gerbils) with fluoride at a crack pineal gland research unit at the University of Surrey, UK (so there is no question about the quality of this work). She found that melatonin production (as measured by the concentration of a melatonin metabolite in the urine) was lower in the animals treated with high fluoride levels compared with those treated with low levels.

Luke hypothesizes that one of the four enzymes needed to convert the amino acid tryptophan (from the diet) into melatonin is being inhibited by fluoride. It could be one of the two enzymes which convert tryptophan to serotonin or one of the two which convert serotonin to melatonin.

Significance? Huge. Melatonin is reponsible for regulating all kinds of activities and there is a vast amount of work investigating its possible roles in aging, cancer and many other life processes. The one activity that Luke is particularly interested in is the onset of puberty. The highest levels of melatonin ( produced only at night) is generated in young children. It is thought that it is the fall of these melatonin levels which acts like a biological clock and triggers the onset of puberty. In her gerbil study she found that the high fluoride treated animals were reaching puberty earlier than the low fluoride ones.

We know from recent studies - and considerable press coverage - that young girls are reaching puberty earlier and earlier in the US. Luke is not saying that fluoride (or fluoridation) is the cause but her work waves a very worrying red flag. Fluoride's role in earlier puberty needs more thorough investigation. Of an interesting historical note, in the Newburgh versus Kingston fluoridation trial (1945-1955), it was found that the girls in fluoridated Newburgh were reaching menstruation, on average, five months earlier than the girls in unfluoridated Kingston, but the result was not thought to be significant at the time (Schlessinger et al, 1956).

When one considers the seriousness of a possible interference by fluoride on a growing child's pineal gland (and for that matter, elderly pineal glands) it underlines the recklessness of fluoridation. The precautionary principle would say, as would basic common sense, that you don't take these kind of risks with our children for a benefit which, at best, amounts to 0.6 tooth surfaces out of 128 tooth surfaces in a child's mouth (Brunelle and Carlos, 1990, Table 6).

I have a copy of Luke's Ph.D. thesis and would be willing to share it with those who have a serious scientific interest in this issue. The other references cited above can be found in my Statement of Concern which is published on the FAN webpage: http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-statement.htm

 
Heres the first video in a series on fluoride (Part 1 of 3).

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Btw, 98% of western Europe has rejected water fluoridation, and their teeth are just as healthy as those of Americans.
 
Hmm... I saw Bellingham in there, and I can safely say we don't have flouride. But actually, countries w/o flouride in their water tend to have way higher cavity rates and shit like that.

 
No fluoride added to our water in Portland, Oregon. But the industry sure is trying to push it on us. If people want fluoride they have the choice to go to the store and fucking buy it. Stop trying to put it in our water!
 
what does this mean for us who already have hit puberty? Is there "recovery" so to speak of reducing fluoride intake?
 
since most of us arent 10 year old girls (although plenty of us act like them on this site) is there a major risk for us?
 
I'm at work right now and dont have time to respond with a detailed

post, so I'd just want to tell readers to be cautious of what some of

the original poster wrote. I'm not saying he's wrong, just that there

have been many studies that say that adding fluoride to drinking water

will help prevent cavities. It especially benefits impoverished areas,

where people will not visit dentists as often as they should.

Once

again, I cant argue point for point on what a safe/acceptable amount of

fluoride per litre is; just dont necessarily take what he wrote as a

given fact. As is the case whenever non-natural substances are added to

frequently used products, there will always be alarmist who may

sometime exaggerate some claims. On that note, there are many articles to support the claim that fluoride may be dangerous.
 
I guess the closest public water around me is Philly's..and that's got fluoride in it. It's great for your teeth when placed directly on them (like the dentist does) but it's poison for the rest of your body. Which is why the water's so bad for you. And which is also why the dentist requests that you don't eat or drink anything for half an hour after you get it.
 
Haha, hell yeah, if anyone gets Deer Park water.. on the label it says where it's bottled.. South Coventry, PA
 
You probably won't get acute fluoride poisoning like little kids sometimes do, but that doesn't mean that you won't get less noticable effects.

There have been studies that have shown that higher fluoride intake reduces IQ and makes people docile. I can't imagine having 10,000ppm fluoride in your pineal gland is good for you. Apparently Nazis fluoridated the shit out of the prisoners in their camps.

Also, if you brush your teeth correctly and floss, you're not gonna get cavities anyway. You don't need forced fluoride medication to keep your teeth clean.

 
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

I'd be way more worried about dihydrogen monoxide.

Why is it bad?

Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.

Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.

Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.

DHMO is a major component of acid rain.

Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.

Contributes to soil erosion.

Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.

Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.

Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.

Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.

Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.

Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.

Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.

Its water you retards.
 
Nowadays when I go to the dentist they tell me that good dental health is mostly genetic. Some people can do endless brushing, flossing etc. and have the worst teeth, while other lucky fucks can do basically nothing and never have any real dental problems.
 
You're just trying to piss everyone off and cause controversy. These findings, while important, aren't nearly enough to cause the panic you're suggesting.
 
What kind of panic am I suggesting? I woke up and brushed my teeth with fluoride toothpaste and fluoridated water. I've been drinking it for 20 years so I'm not exactly going to panic, and you shouldn't either. But I'm going to do what I can to reduce my intake as soon as possible.

I just thought that people should know that added fluoride is causing huge concentrations of it in their brains. There are some people who will understand the significance of the pineal gland and may deduce why it could be a bad thing.
 
Yea, if you stop using fluoride toothpaste and start drinking unfluoridated water, the concentrations of fluoride in your body will be diluted and will start to flush out somewhat. There are probably some herbal detoxes out there too, but I have no idea how/if those would work. I've seen some suggestions that iodine binds the fluoride and helps flush it from your body. I'd have to look into it more though.
 
The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)

The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist:

"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930's, Hitler and the German Nazi's envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years' research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically."

CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.

 
but what exactly is it doing to harm you? it is proven to prevent tooth decay, and tooth erosion. with the high sugar diets of many americans today, the acid levels in the mouth have become much higher, thus making a need to use fluoride to strengthen teeth against this. i'm all for fluoride. but maybe instead of drinking it, try using a fluoride rinse, or toothpaste, that you spit out instead of ingesting.
 
Letter from Dr. Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D., Chemist, Researcher for 18 years, Professor of Chemistry for 33 yrs.

April 2002

Dear Government Executive and Employee:

We can all stop spending billions for American dental work and research. Let me tell you why: I have learned the real causes of dental cavities and gum infection. People, including you, will now be able to take care of their own dentistry with insignificant cost, and end with perfect teeth. Cavities and gum infections are ended!

A great amount of REPUTABLE DENTAL RESEARCH proves the following:

1. Tooth cavities will be ended simply by rinsing acids off the teeth. ACIDS ALONE EAT THE ENAMEL. THERE WOULD BE NO CAVITIES IN THE WORLD if all people rinsed acids from their teeth promptly. Just sip water, milk or other liquid while eating. Water reacts with acids.

2. Foods and drinks, other than those containing acids, have no action on tooth enamel. SUGARS HAVE NO ACTION ON THE ENAMEL.

3. Bacteria cannot damage the enamel (calcium hydroxy phosphate). There is no such thing as decay of the enamel since bacteria require carbon and hydrogen to live. Billions of human and animal remains show teeth and bones are resistant to earth-bound organisms.

4. Teeth reenamalize when clean. TO MAKE TEETH CLEAN ONE BRUSHES WITH ANY BAR SOAP. Soap washes off in just 2 rinses. What about toothpastes? Glycerine in all tooth pastes is so sticky that it takes 27 washes to get it off. Teeth brushed with any toothpaste are coated with a film and CANNOT PROPERLY REENAMELIZE.

5. Taking calcium and phosphate in the diet results in reenamelization of the teeth, but only when they are clean. Bar soap does a perfect job in cleaning the surface. The enamel thickens and becomes less sensitive. Adenosine diphosphatase furnishes phosphate to teeth.

6. Gums are disinfected by brushing with any bar soap. Not only bacteria and viruses are destroyed promptly by small amounts of soap in water, but also white flies and aphids. Gardeners: Spray 1 tsp of dishwashing soap in 1 gallon of water to kill white flies and aphids.

7. Plaque, a poorly formed crystal stuck to the bottom of the enamel, is prevented and eventually removed by brushing with bar soap. Dental procedures to get the badly formed crystals off dig holes through the enamel. These cavities catch food and cause gum infection.

8. Prevention of plaque retards gum pockets. GUM POCKETS are formed as the plaque pushes the gums away from the teeth. GUM POCKETS, from 1 to 8 mm deep, ARE ALSO FORMED BY FLUORIDE, WHICH SEVERS THE PROTEIN MOLECULES ADHERING THE GUMS TO THE TEETH. SOAP PREVENTS GINGIVITIS caused by bacteria which is lodged in the gum pockets.

9. VITAMIN C AND PHOSPHATE help knit the gums back to the teeth. Pressing against the gums with fingers forces adhesive materials from the gums onto the teeth, which helps the process. Abscesses can be offset by holding Cepacol (14% alcohol) in the mouth 5 minutes.

10. 'Receding gum' surgery will end when the GUM POCKETS cease. The very mention of the procedure, which involves transferring flesh from the roof of the mouth to the excised area of the gums, is a heinous and useless procedure which ought to pass into oblivion.

11. REMOVAL OF FLUORIDE FROM DRINKING WATER, PASTES OR GELS SAVES THE ENZYME ADENOSINE DIPHOSPHATASE so it can deliver phosphate to calcium at the tooth surface, RESULTING IN A BEAUTIFUL, SEMI-FLEXIBLE ENAMEL.

12. As stated above, THE GUMS CAN BE RECONNECTED TO THE TEETH BY TAKING VITAMIN C (ASCORBIC ACID) (1 tsp) with Arm and Hammer baking soda (1/2 tsp) in 1 inch of water, letting it fizz and then diluting to 1/2 to 1 cup with water, then drinking. The resulting SODIUM ASCORBATE is non-acid, very pure and a thousand times more soluble than vitamin C. SODIUM ASCORBATE IS MORE REACTIVE THAN ASCORBIC ACID (C) in building connective tissue and antibody structures and more effective in killing some viruses and bacteria.

13. Receding gums and plaque are ended when soap is used for brushing and VITAMIN C IS TAKEN DAILY AS DESCRIBED IN #12.

14. 30% of American youths ages 8-10 have no cavities. 100% of Ugandan youths ages 6-10 have no cavities. What does this tell us?

15. THE REASON UGANDAN YOUTHS HAVE 3 TIMES BETTER TEETH THAN AMERICAN YOUTHS IS BECAUSE they do not consume as many acid foods, have no fluoride in their drinking water, have regular meals rather than sipping acid drinks all day, have more calcium and phosphate in their diet, and have fewer dentists to 'WORK ON' their teeth.

16. DENTAL LITERATURE says 42% OF AMERICANS OVER 65 HAVE NO NATURAL TEETH while 25% OF THOSE OVER 43 HAVE NONE.

17. Dental literature says AMERICANS AGE 43 AVERAGE 32 CAVITIES, those AGE 17 HAVE 13 CAVITIES, blacks and poverty stricken (without calcium and phosphate) have twice this and the native Americans have four times this amount. The NATIVE AMERICAN PLIGHT CAN BE BLAMED ON THEIR POOR NUTRITION, EXCESSIVE FLUORIDATION AND FREE BUT IMPROPER DENTAL CARE.

18. IF FLUORIDATION WERE EFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING CAVITIES, NATIVE AMERICANS WOULD HAVE THE LEAST CAVITIES OF ANY GROUP. THEY HAVE HAD FORCED FLUORIDATION FOR APPROXIMATELY 62 YEARS.

19. Spokesmen for national groups are beginning to notice AN ALARMING RISE IN CAVITIES AMONG CHILDREN AND TEENS. Some dentists recommend DENTAL SEALANTS, especially for older teens not previously considered candidates for the treatment. But if sealants are now ordered, AREN'T DENTISTS ADMITTING NO CONFIDENCE IN THE ABILITY OF FLUORIDE TO PREVENT CAVITIES?

20. FLUORIDE in water at I part per million INCREASED TOOTH CAVITIES in four large reliable studies 7.22.45 and 10% (average 21 %). The reason far these increases has to do with the fact that adenosine diphosphatase is destroyed by fluoride and CALCIUM FLUORIDE which slips into the enamel, IS ALIEN TO THE TOOTH COMPOSITE AND MAKES THE ENAMEL WEAK, BRITTLE AND DISCOLORED.

21. THE HEALTH OF AMERICAN TEETH WILL INCREASE TO BE VERY NEARLY PERFECT if the regimen of WATER RINSING, SOAP BRUSHING AND TAKING CALCIUM, PHOSPHATE AND VITAMIN C IN THE DIET is implemented.

22. Fortunately, we now know the current 'teeth perfecting protocol' of dentistry with fluoridation is flawed. IF THE EARLY ESTIMATES OF 80% TOOTH IMPROVEMENT IN CHILDRENS' TEETH BY AGE 13 WERE TRUE, EACH AMERICAN WOULD NOW HAVE LESS THAN ONE CAVITY. That is far from true. The teeth in America are in a sorry state, AND AT THE PRESENT TIME ARE GETTING WORSE.

23. Numerous top scientists over the past 60 years have discarded the theory that fluoride helps teeth, or is a nutrient helpful to man.

24. TO AVOID FLUORIDE IS TO PREVENT MORE THAN 114 AILMENTS listed with references in a book Good Teeth Birth to Death by Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D.. These 114 MEDICAL SIDE EFFECTS extend all the way from cancer down to headaches CAUSED BY 1 PPM FLUORIDE IN THE WATER. Thirteen of these side effects are proved by a double blind study on 60 patients by 12 physicians, 1 pharmacist and 1 attorney.

25. The mechanism for destruction of enzymes by fluoride has been proven by x-ray studies. Hydrogen bonds are broken by fluoride.

26. Fluoride is the smallest negative particle on the face of the earth. Since the FLUORIDE PARTICLES ARE SO SMALL and so intensely negative, THEY CONNECT WITH THE HYDROGEN BONDS HOLDING THE ENZYME COILS IN PLACE and ruin every enzyme molecule at very low concentration, around 1-3 ppm. These enzymes are often 3,000 or more times the small size of the fluoride. The effect is ruinous.

27. To avoid fluoride is to prevent the destruction of 83 enzymes listed with references in Good Teeth, Birth to Death, by Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D.. FLUORIDE IS A SEVERE BIOLOGICAL POISON. Being intensely negative, it unlatches positive hydrogen bonds in enzymes AND proteins.

28. It is fortunate we have learned fluoride is a nerve poison. FLUORIDE CAUSES CAVITIES. There is not the slightest doubt.

29. Methylmercury formed from amalgams in the body is deadly. It causes brain disease. Fillings made of quartzite and epoxy are a safe substitute.

30. Fluoride harms the economy by MAKING PEOPLE PURCHASE OTHER THAN CITY WATER to avoid it. It also harms the economy by making people dependent on undependable professions that know nothing about it. Ignorance about fluoride and what it does is worldwide.

31. Keep the teeth moist. Teeth that are dry 'craze' (crack). If you chew ice, teeth may crumble. Teeth do have a breaking strength.

32. LOOK IN YOUR MOUTH. Tell the dentist(s) what you want done and get several bids for examination and work. Save your fortunes.

We now know we can cancel the green light given by Harry Truman with the help of Congress TO SUBSIDIZE DENTISTRY. BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEING WASTED in this regard (Public Law 755, June 24,1948) CAN NOW BE RETURNED TO THE TAXPAYERS.

I hope you will put this information in the hands of your Congress persons so they and we may alert the newspapers, radio and TV stations, magazines, and all other news media as well as their friends, families, and associates about this giant leap in dental technology.

I ask for your feedback on this letter and I would also like you to ask for feedback from the ones you contact. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!

Respectfully yours,

Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, Chemistry

PARTIAL CREDENTIALS OF DR JUDD -- as of March, 2005 -- 6615 West Lupine, Glendale AZ 85304

1. Ph.D. from Purdue University.

2. Researcher in industry: 18 yrs.

3. Prof of chemistry: 33 yrs; retired professor emeritus.

4. Fluoride laboratory studies: Linde, Purdue, Wright Field and Phoenix College, 13 yrs.

5. Author, revised: Good Teeth Birth to Death, 117 pp. July 1997.

6. Author, revised: Chemistry, Its Uses In Everyday Life, 305 pp. July 1997.

7. Author, Workbook, Self Quizzes and Laboratory Assignments for Chemistry, Its Uses In Everyday Life, July 16, 1997.

8. Author, Chemical Hygiene Plan, 89 pp., 4-23-1998.

9. Speaker, writer, radio host, bookseller, age 79, continuing as of March, 2005.

10. Fighter for truth in practical uses of chemistry.
 
25. The mechanism for destruction of enzymes by fluoride has been proven by x-ray studies. Hydrogen bonds are broken by fluoride.

26. Fluoride is the smallest negative particle on the face of the earth. Since the FLUORIDE PARTICLES ARE SO SMALL and so intensely negative, THEY CONNECT WITH THE HYDROGEN BONDS HOLDING THE ENZYME COILS IN PLACE and ruin every enzyme molecule at very low concentration, around 1-3 ppm. These enzymes are often 3,000 or more times the small size of the fluoride. The effect is ruinous.

27. To avoid fluoride is to prevent the destruction of 83 enzymes listed with references in Good Teeth, Birth to Death, by Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D.. FLUORIDE IS A SEVERE BIOLOGICAL POISON. Being intensely negative, it unlatches positive hydrogen bonds in enzymes AND proteins.
 
so for the first 18 years of your life you didnt have fluoride and neither did i. so i think we'll be ok. yay well water. oh and how long has fluoride been in our drinking water? and how many deaths or retardations has it caused? if it was anything substantial they would have gotten rid of it. how many cavities has it gotten rid of? i think we're fine
 
They don't exactly keep a tally of people adversely affected by fluoride intake, so I don't think even substantial problems would be recognized for what it might be, but rather attributed to something unrelated and/or unknown. Doctors just treat symptoms, they usually don't do a very good job of addressing the underlying problems. And industry workers seem to get fired for attempting to reveal negative effects. There are a few in academia that have shown some very serious problems though.

And fluoride got rid of about 0 cavities that couldn't have been dealt with more effectly in a healthy manner.

Btw, if 1-3 ppm has been shown to cause damage to enzymes and proteins, I can't imagine what 10,000ppm is doing to our pineal gland's functions in our brains.
 
I'm glad my house has it's own well, but I still probably get soem fluoride from water at uni. plus there's fluoride in toothpaste, no?
 
you can buy flouride free stuff, i think it costs a little bit more though.

adding flouride to the water must be pretty expensive right? How do they justify doing it and since they know that it is toxic, and actually will end up harming your teeth what motive do they have to keep putting it in the water?

 
you dont swallow tooth paste... and you dont swallow the fluoride teeth whitening stuff either...

bot yeah the dihydrogen monoxide doesnt look too safe i should probably cut that out of my diet entriely. haha
 
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