Flatspin and Cork 180s, Double 540 On The Way?

Johngreenacre

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Grigory Furseev socked the laws of physics last season when his totally legitamate cork 180 went viral.

This year, Henrik Harlaut and a few others did some of the first few flatspin/rodeo 180s.

As an avid trampoliner, I am able to do flat 1s (not cork 1s (legitamately)) and double flat 7s. So a little while ago I thought of combining the 2. The trick would be flat 3 to flat 1. A double flatspin 5. I've tried the trick and personnly cannot do it (yet), but I think this is on the horizon on the tramp and on the hill.

If you think this has been done and or have a video bless us all and cough it up but if not, I'm handing the task of the double 540 onto the great people of NS
 
13657632:georgen12 said:
this nearly happened

[video]https://vimeo.com/70042582[/video]
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that's pretty much a dub backflip 180.

It's cool but flatspins these days are pretty much backflips with a japan
 
I feel like this is what comps might turn into, no one really seems to care about the quad anymore, and triples and doubles are cool, but imo the sport is moving more towards technical, and more stylish tricks
 
13657859:Shoey-Ski said:
I feel like this is what comps might turn into, no one really seems to care about the quad anymore, and triples and doubles are cool, but imo the sport is moving more towards technical, and more stylish tricks
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That would be sort of sick, I'm sick of dub 12 mutes to switch dub 10 japans.
 
topic:Johngreenacre said:
Grigory Furseev socked the laws of physics last season when his totally legitamate cork 180 went viral.

This year, Henrik Harlaut and a few others did some of the first few flatspin/rodeo 180s.
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Where are these videos?
 
[VIDEO]https://vk.com/video_ext.php?oid=2092628&id=170560987&hash=07b8a7f47e080b25&hd=3[/VIDEO]

[VIDEO]https://vk.com/video_ext.php?oid=2092628&id=170588887&hash=6e11aef81df5388b&hd=3[/VIDEO]
 
13657632:georgen12 said:
this nearly happened

[VIDEO]https://vimeo.com/70042582[/VIDEO]

landed here @ 1:38


+k for embed, i suck
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That's just a fucked up double underflip
 
Friendly reminder that:

A. Cork 180's don't exist.

B. Tweaking your grab on a 180 in order to make it look corked is not the same as an actual cork.
 
13657632:georgen12 said:
this nearly happened

[VIDEO]https://vimeo.com/70042582[/VIDEO]

landed here @ 1:38


+k for embed, i suck
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None of those are double 540s, both are variations of 900 doubles.
 
13657859:Shoey-Ski said:
I feel like this is what comps might turn into, no one really seems to care about the quad anymore, and triples and doubles are cool, but imo the sport is moving more towards technical, and more stylish tricks
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How is flapping to revert your rotation stylish in the slightest?
 
13658039:Heart said:
Friendly reminder that:

A. Cork 180's don't exist.

B. Tweaking your grab on a 180 in order to make it look corked is not the same as an actual cork.
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I agree with part B of this, but I would definitely say that Berman is corked on the shot at 1:30

[VIDEO]529887[/VIDEO]
 
13658039:Heart said:
Friendly reminder that:

A. Cork 180's don't exist.

B. Tweaking your grab on a 180 in order to make it look corked is not the same as an actual cork.
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Ok. [video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/764185/Sw-Drag--Sw-misty3--Cork1[/video]
 
13658202:cory.iyoob said:
Ok. [video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/764185/Sw-Drag--Sw-misty3--Cork1[/video]
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Last trick? 180 spread eagle is not a cork 180...
 
13658263:Oxcilic said:
It's definitely corked. It's spread b/c it has to be. Still a cork 180.
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Dude thats not a cork, look at every part of his body except for his one leg way up in the air, not corked. If he grabbed safety with his legs together it would just be a method 1, unless he could get his lower leg to the same height as the top spread one, that's not a cork. It's a 180 spread
 
Just watched again and paused when he's in the air, I guess it is a little off axis but I defi would call that a cork 1 by any means, untill he can get his legs togather it's just a spread 180 a little off axis, just like how some people make there "double" 720's look double by spreading the fuck outta there legs, looks double but really isnt
 
13658331:M.M said:
Just watched again and paused when he's in the air, I guess it is a little off axis but I defi would call that a cork 1 by any means, untill he can get his legs togather it's just a spread 180 a little off axis, just like how some people make there "double" 720's look double by spreading the fuck outta there legs, looks double but really isnt
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A little off axis?

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In order to be "corked", one must become inverted completely (or at least damn close to be considered legit). Now if one were to do ANY FLIP, during which they became completely inverted, they MUST have completed 360 degrees of rotation in order to have "gone full circle". Based on this dandy logic of mine, I conclude that any double flip automatically makes it a 720. Therefore dub 540s are not possible.

Go ahead, tell me that corks dont have to be inverted, idc
 
13658413:Cambrewski said:
In order to be "corked", one must become inverted completely (or at least damn close to be considered legit). Now if one were to do ANY FLIP, during which they became completely inverted, they MUST have completed 360 degrees of rotation in order to have "gone full circle". Based on this dandy logic of mine, I conclude that any double flip automatically makes it a 720. Therefore dub 540s are not possible.

Go ahead, tell me that corks dont have to be inverted, idc
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You're right about the doubles having to be at least 720 degrees, but corks are never inverted. An inverted cork is a D-spin, close to what the old guys call full-fulls.
 
13658448:Elg said:
You're right about the doubles having to be at least 720 degrees, but corks are never inverted. An inverted cork is a D-spin, close to what the old guys call full-fulls.
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I feel you
 
13658359:Johngreenacre said:
A little off axis?

View attachment 820233
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i think that lower angle makes it look more of axis. if you pause it on the last frame on the top angle which is basically at the same point in the rotation as you posted there^ and it doesn't look nearly as corked. he definitely goes a off axis but to me it isn't a cork. like i said if he could throw that other leg up like his right leg it would be. just looks like a cheater cork/ spread to me. he does go off axis though, will give him that.
 
13658528:M.M said:
i think that lower angle makes it look more of axis. if you pause it on the last frame on the top angle which is basically at the same point in the rotation as you posted there^ and it doesn't look nearly as corked. he definitely goes a off axis but to me it isn't a cork. like i said if he could throw that other leg up like his right leg it would be. just looks like a cheater cork/ spread to me. he does go off axis though, will give him that.
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yeah i guess you are right but then again some cork 3 are less off axis than he goes so idk
 
13658413:Cambrewski said:
In order to be "corked", one must become inverted completely (or at least damn close to be considered legit). Now if one were to do ANY FLIP, during which they became completely inverted, they MUST have completed 360 degrees of rotation in order to have "gone full circle". Based on this dandy logic of mine, I conclude that any double flip automatically makes it a 720. Therefore dub 540s are not possible.

Go ahead, tell me that corks dont have to be inverted, idc
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Sorry, but corks definitely don't have to be inverted, I'd say that in an ideal cork you should be somewhere from 65° to 125° from vertical axis. Take a look at these sequence shots, they're all legit cork 7s and none of those guys is completely inverted:

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13658413:Cambrewski said:
In order to be "corked", one must become inverted completely (or at least damn close to be considered legit). Now if one were to do ANY FLIP, during which they became completely inverted, they MUST have completed 360 degrees of rotation in order to have "gone full circle". Based on this dandy logic of mine, I conclude that any double flip automatically makes it a 720. Therefore dub 540s are not possible.

Go ahead, tell me that corks dont have to be inverted, idc
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uhm.. corks are not inverts. An inverted cork is called a d-spin.
 
13658903:Adolf_Skitler said:
People are throwing really inverted corks all the time and no one calls them d-spins tho.
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and 90% of what are called flat 3's are actually wackflips. Just cause it's called a cork doesn't mean it is a cork.
 
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