Fks question

jfrauen

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So i got my FKS mounted on my new AK JJs and i was just fucking around in my room with them on and if i lean forward the back of my boot will move up a little and it sends my breaks down a bit. Is the right with these bindings? I just messed around with my el rays with marker griffon bindings mounted on them and they don't move at all. Did i get fucked with the local ski shop mounted these for me?
 
more than likely your forward pressure is fucked up. one way to test is to clamp your boot into the binding without you wearing it. look behind the binding for the tab and the notches. when the boot is clipped in the tab should be lined up with the notches. this pic should help:

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hopefully these might give you an idea of whats going on here. If you look at the last image the black pics thats under the front of the heel of the boot, its sticking up and if i were to take the boot off it seems like it should be all the way down. But idk.

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yea it does when i lead forward its not coming out that bad, its just moving a little. And no matter how hard i try it won't come out
 
Where in my post does it say I'm blaming anything? I just want to get my shit fixed if anything is wrong. What sucks about anything i bought? I have boots that fit me and are comfortable and i bought a pair of powder skis that will do anything and everything i want to do

 
My guess would be they are mounted too short = Too much pre-load/not fully closing in the heel. Go back to the shop talk to them about it, they are usually very nice about fixing stuff like this.
 
My FKS did this on 1 pair of skis when I first got them. Solution was to crank the forward pressure up another few notches. They still come off completely fine and the tab is a little bit behind the notches. Massive disclaimer, if you do this and your leg snaps and you die, not my fault. But if you're riding FKS180's you should be OK with this.

Google FKS forward pressure, theres tons of stuff on the net about it, mostly comes down to the phase of the moon and the direction the wind is blowing when they are adjusted (or more likely it's to do with different thicknesses/wear on the heel/toe lugs).

You'll know if you've gone too tight because when you clip the boot in the toe will pivot forward slightly. It takes a bit of time with a screwdriver but you should be able to sort it.

For what it's worth, I skied for a couple of days with that little bit of play in mine, no issues, they never fell off or anything. Just wait until you have a big gnarly almost-crash and you'll see how far they will travel before they let you go.
 
Because you only have griffins on your other set up, So you can't be that aggressive as a skier.

And Generally, You'd just go straight to the shop and hope the techy knows what he is doing to sort it out. Instead of relying on the kids of NS to know what is up.
 
Well i am a pretty aressive skier, I have them mounted on my armada halos, I mainly ski park and that was for my very first set of skis. I just started skiing 2 seasons ago.

And i just got my new stuff the other day so now that i know something is wrong im going to take care of fixing it. Just seeing what people say the problem might be so i might be able to do something about it.

Plus i did my research on another binding when i bout them but the company sent me the wrong binding so thats how i ended up with the FKS 180s. Now I'm trying to do my research on these.
 
They sent you the wrong binding and you ended up with FKS?!?! Well, I guess worse things could happen, it's probably one of the burliest bindings you can get. But if you only started skiing 2 years ago, unless you're skiing like a man possessed, they're probably massive overkill.

As for adjusting them... a fair few newish ski techs have likely never worked on a pair, seeing as they were off the market for many years. So they may well be slightly out.

I'm not really sure what to say... obviously your shop hasn't got them quite right, adjusting them yourself is a slightly dodgy proposition if you don't know what you're doing but at the same time they're 180s, they're dangerous to your health in their own right if you don't know what you're doing.
 
ur such a little bitch

and yeah, you shouldn't have to ask about bindings if u have 180's. but u got them on accident, so whatever. talk about a score, they'll last forever

go to the regional forums and ask for a good shop in your area. bring them in and have them fix them. the amount of shops that know how to properly mount an fks binding is horrible.

 
this thread is hilarious. El rays with griffons and ak JJ's with fks 180s. Really nice quiver dude lol. Out of curiosity what din are the 18's set at?
 
That's my point exactly... it's a joke....

to justify having 18's you have to run your bindings at atleast 14....

I have Px18s on my big mountain set up... Jesters on my pow skis and STH 16s on my everyday skis.
 
I dunno... I run my 18's at 11 or 12, I'm around 190lbs and ride fairly hard and have broken 3 pairs of Jesters, got fed up with their plastic BS so now I ride FKS. I feel like I justify it, having wrecked those Markers...
 
I can see that... I was at 14-16 when i was racing, and tried going down when i quit but kept pre releasing when i had tyrolia 15s... and the only thing people could suggest wast getting a burlier binding. tbh biggest regret was mounting jesters on my hellbents. but such is life. And i broke my px 18s 4 times over 2 seasons. so i tried to avoid them... thought id try the STH this year to see how it compares.
 
The 180s are set at 9 and 9. I havent touched them since i recieved them and thats what the ski shop who mounted them for me had them at i was planning on turning it up but i came across this problem first.
 
Ok so i took my skis to my local ski shop who mounted them for me and the guy in there said there was nothing they could do thats how the binding is. He also went on to tell me it was probably the boot and i still wasn't satisfied on what he was telling me so he went on to take me to the back of the shop to prove to me that he was right so he started tweaking things and i noticed something he did which was screw out the screws in the back of the binding and this made it worse, so he put it back to where it was. I got home and tightened them and now it seems like my problem is fixed i just was someones advice to see if i fixed this problem or some of the consequences of what i did.

I screwed these down

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Which made these go down

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And my shit is not moving like it was. Sorry i don't know the proper terminology so don't bitch at me about it, What do you guys think did i fix it or just set myself up for a disaster if i go down!
 
typical ns..kid comes on here for help and the whole thread turns into hate. NEWS FLASH, you have to start somewhere as far as getting a par of FKS. I am more than sure that you guys didnt know everything about the binding when you first got it. Some people dont care about the technical side of the binding, they just want a bomber binding and trust the shop to set them up properly. There is nothing wrong with that.

But to the op, you should take them back to the shop and ask them to help you. If they do not know what they are talking about then take them to another. Also TGR has alot of threads about this topic.
 
You guys are assholes.

Also what is wrong with AK JJ's? JJs are one of the best-selling pow skis out there?
 
like i said before, do this

u guys are bitching at him about his jj's? he said earlier they're on halos.

ur bitching at him about having fks 180's? he said earlier they were sent to him on accident instead of a different binding. im guessing 140's.

nice job ripping on him assholes
 
I would take it to a shop that knows what they are talking about but there is only one shop local and i don't have the time to go anywhere else to see whats up. Now after i thought i fixed them the white indicator isn't lined up with the notches, its not off by much. is this bad or will it work for me
 
Making any adjustments to your bindings without knowing exactly what you are doing is risky business. I would take them to the one local shop.
 
i did yesterday and they said thats how the binding is and they couldn't do anything about it. I'm going to breckenridge in december to ski so i doubt ill have any big pow days here in cali by then. ill just have someone over there fix them unless i figure something out.
 
What you did is adjust the forwards pressure. Which is what like 5 people in the thread (including myself) suggested you do.

Just be aware that if you adjusted it too far, it will amplify the force required to get out of the binding or may make it not release at all under some circumstances.

Make sure those arms are exactly even as well.
 
So another fks question how do I know when the foward pressure is right I free handed them and I dont know if the heel peices are fully down.
 
maybe try reading the thread because it has clearly been stated.

CLIP BOOT INTO BINDING(YOU SHOULD NOT BE WEARING THE BOOT)

LOOK AT WHITE/YELLOW/RED TAB AND THE TWO SMALL NOTHCES NEXT TO IT

MAKE SURE TAB IS FLUSH ON BOTH SIDES WITH THE NOTCHES

IF IT IS NOT GET TWO SCREWDRIVERS AND ADJUST THE SCREWS ON THE ARMS

MAKE SURE TO ADJUST THEM EQUALLY

CHECK AND SEE IF THE TAB IS LINED UP WITH THE NOTCHES

IF NOT REPEAT
 
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