Finally figured out what I’m doing wrong for 360s

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whatsamonad

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I know this probably sounds pretty dumb because most of you can cork, but I’m not nearly as good at park as I wish I was.

Just started watching YT vids and actually trying to figure your proper form instead of trying to feel it out as I go. I suck at 3s because I always land them off balance on one foot.

Been trying it out on the ground with my boots lately, and I finally figured out what I’m doing since it’s a lot easier to take a quick slow mo video.

Anyway I found out that I was throwing my hands to start the rotation and then during the rotation they were flying out both to the one side leading to me landing hard on that foot. I started pulling them in after I whip them around to about the front of my body and now the rotation is much more smooth. Can’t wait to try it out when I hit the park after work tomorrow.

Sorry if a dumb post. The moral is working on form when not skiing is so helpful, I wish I had started doing this earlier. I get intimidated throwing stuff in the park when I know is suck at it lmao

Also the Stomp It tutorials guy is amazing.

If anyone has any other tips for how to keep from landing off balance with rotations lmk

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Not a dumb post at all. Sometimes writing it out helps you process in your mind along with figuring out the technique! Hope it works out
 
14232998:nmwninjart said:
Not a dumb post at all. Sometimes writing it out helps you process in your mind along with figuring out the technique! Hope it works out
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Yeah I started writing out some notes for what I found so I can remember what to do correctly. Definitely helps
 
14233048:whatsamonad said:
Yeah I started writing out some notes for what I found so I can remember what to do correctly. Definitely helps
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I do the same thing. I have a list every season of my findings and accomplishments in a spot where I can see it every day. I did this in the martial arts also, which has a very similar training mindset... Repetition and just working at figuring out why something works or doesn't work.
 
Yea +1 for those stomp it tutorials, my sister is learning how to ski switch over I've shoulder and I sent her some of those, super helpful!
 
Hey homie, first of all I'm so hyped to hear you're having fun and progressing. I have some thoughts to keep in mind whenever you're spinning on jumps. The axis of your shoulders is the axis that you'll spin on. Your arms are an extension of your shoulders in many ways. Think of trying to keep your shoulders level while you wind and spin rather than your arms. That's a big difference on being controlled and looking like Tom Wallish at Windells circa 2010 vs looking like a T-Pose meme rolling into your local park jump. If you feel good, you look good. Skiing is all about confidence and control. You know how you get confidence and control? Repetition. Lap the jump as many times as you can for as many days as you can. You will progress VERY fast. Another small thing to consider is that landing going forwards on any jump spin, there is a tendency to land backseat. To master a spin landing forward is to land it standing straight up and down or leaned slightly forward in a nice and controlled position. Try to avoid landing backseat by correcting for that with the set of your spin as well as where you are balancing yourself in the air. I personally find myself using my head to balance me on forward landing spins. I try to think of it as keeping my head forward, and the rest of the body will follow.
 
14233255:Schoess said:
Hey homie, first of all I'm so hyped to hear you're having fun and progressing. I have some thoughts to keep in mind whenever you're spinning on jumps. The axis of your shoulders is the axis that you'll spin on. Your arms are an extension of your shoulders in many ways. Think of trying to keep your shoulders level while you wind and spin rather than your arms. That's a big difference on being controlled and looking like Tom Wallish at Windells circa 2010 vs looking like a T-Pose meme rolling into your local park jump. If you feel good, you look good. Skiing is all about confidence and control. You know how you get confidence and control? Repetition. Lap the jump as many times as you can for as many days as you can. You will progress VERY fast. Another small thing to consider is that landing going forwards on any jump spin, there is a tendency to land backseat. To master a spin landing forward is to land it standing straight up and down or leaned slightly forward in a nice and controlled position. Try to avoid landing backseat by correcting for that with the set of your spin as well as where you are balancing yourself in the air. I personally find myself using my head to balance me on forward landing spins. I try to think of it as keeping my head forward, and the rest of the body will follow.
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Bro, this was so useful. I think if I try to concentrate on keeping the shoulders level it will help, instead of concentrating on spinning the arms. I'll try to spin with the shoulders instead of whipping the arms. I tried it a few times on flat ground and I feel a lot more stable spinning concentrating on the shoulders vs. the arms. Do you have any suggestions on winding up the legs? Stomp it guy said to bend the leg opposite where you are winding up your hands a bit from the foot to the hip, which feels pretty natural to me. Not much, just a slight bend so I can edge and push off that way.

One problem I'm having is that I often go to mountains with jumps that are too big for lapping. Like I want a nice small jump where I can concentrate on having a good pop and rotating, but a lot of times the jumps are solidly medium size and it's a bit intimidating to be lapping working on something I'm not confident with doing in the air. Small jumps I'm fine wiping out a few times, I'll be fine.

Definitely going to have to work on spinning off the upwards trajectory. I am feeling fine with doing it on flat ground, and I am pretty comfortable hitting medium to medium-large jumps without spinning in the park, so I just need to lap it and get a good feel. I'll keep what you said about the head in mind, that's great advice for sticking the landing.

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topic:whatsamonad said:
I know this probably sounds pretty dumb because most of you can cork, but I’m not nearly as good at park as I wish I was.

Just started watching YT vids and actually trying to figure your proper form instead of trying to feel it out as I go. I suck at 3s because I always land them off balance on one foot.

Been trying it out on the ground with my boots lately, and I finally figured out what I’m doing since it’s a lot easier to take a quick slow mo video.

Anyway I found out that I was throwing my hands to start the rotation and then during the rotation they were flying out both to the one side leading to me landing hard on that foot. I started pulling them in after I whip them around to about the front of my body and now the rotation is much more smooth. Can’t wait to try it out when I hit the park after work tomorrow.

Sorry if a dumb post. The moral is working on form when not skiing is so helpful, I wish I had started doing this earlier. I get intimidated throwing stuff in the park when I know is suck at it lmao

Also the Stomp It tutorials guy is amazing.

If anyone has any other tips for how to keep from landing off balance with rotations lmk

**This thread was edited on Jan 25th 2021 at 8:28:21pm

**This thread was edited on Jan 25th 2021 at 8:29:05pm

**This thread was edited on Jan 25th 2021 at 8:31:22pm
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bro trust me, its easy for people to pretend on here, theres no way to prove that u can do something and vice versa. no matter how good u are u still have fun. I can't cork but i have as much fun as henrik when i'm skiing, just being outside is awesome, and sliding on snow with 2 planks strapped to my feet makes me laugh every time i think of it.
 
With your legs on the top, it depends whether you're doing a carving spin or straight spin. We'll focus on a straight spin. For straight spins you should widen your legs as you're coming in with your knees bent a little bit. Legs should never ever be locked straight. It's extremely dangerous. As you reach the takeoff you should be pushing up with your legs while you unwind your shoulders into the spin in one motion. Everything is smooth and should happen with a controlled effort.

Also as far as jump size, I would recommend the medium sized jumps. Tricks on small jumps do not work the same as on bigger jumps. In order to become comfortable with something new, you have to leave your comfort zone. Just wear a helmet and don't try tricks when the conditions suck.

Lastly, I linked a really good video that you should study on proper technique. The shoulders thing applies to rails and jumps alike. This is a friend of mine who I film with quite a bit. He has really good technique with his wind ups and pops. There are a few uncorked straight spins in this edit that you can refer to, as well as just watching how he comes in and out of spins, where his head is at while watching what his feet are doing etc. Also keep in mind that different grabs will require you to set a little bit differently on jumps to come out of the spin the same way. I know it all seems overwhelming right now, but by learning and doing things properly you can avoid injuries, have more fun and be a better skier.

[video]932659[/video]

14233264:whatsamonad said:
Bro, this was so useful. I think if I try to concentrate on keeping the shoulders level it will help, instead of concentrating on spinning the arms. I'll try to spin with the shoulders instead of whipping the arms. I tried it a few times on flat ground and I feel a lot more stable spinning concentrating on the shoulders vs. the arms. Do you have any suggestions on winding up the legs? Stomp it guy said to bend the leg opposite where you are winding up your hands a bit from the foot to the hip, which feels pretty natural to me. Not much, just a slight bend so I can edge and push off that way.

One problem I'm having is that I often go to mountains with jumps that are too big for lapping. Like I want a nice small jump where I can concentrate on having a good pop and rotating, but a lot of times the jumps are solidly medium size and it's a bit intimidating to be lapping working on something I'm not confident with doing in the air. Small jumps I'm fine wiping out a few times, I'll be fine.

Definitely going to have to work on spinning off the upwards trajectory. I am feeling fine with doing it on flat ground, and I am pretty comfortable hitting medium to medium-large jumps without spinning in the park, so I just need to lap it and get a good feel. I'll keep what you said about the head in mind, that's great advice for sticking the landing.

**This post was edited on Jan 26th 2021 at 11:28:00am
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14233297:Schoess said:
With your legs on the top, it depends whether you're doing a carving spin or straight spin. We'll focus on a straight spin. For straight spins you should widen your legs as you're coming in with your knees bent a little bit. Legs should never ever be locked straight. It's extremely dangerous. As you reach the takeoff you should be pushing up with your legs while you unwind your shoulders into the spin in one motion. Everything is smooth and should happen with a controlled effort.

Also as far as jump size, I would recommend the medium sized jumps. Tricks on small jumps do not work the same as on bigger jumps. In order to become comfortable with something new, you have to leave your comfort zone. Just wear a helmet and don't try tricks when the conditions suck.

Lastly, I linked a really good video that you should study on proper technique. The shoulders thing applies to rails and jumps alike. This is a friend of mine who I film with quite a bit. He has really good technique with his wind ups and pops. There are a few uncorked straight spins in this edit that you can refer to, as well as just watching how he comes in and out of spins, where his head is at while watching what his feet are doing etc. Also keep in mind that different grabs will require you to set a little bit differently on jumps to come out of the spin the same way. I know it all seems overwhelming right now, but by learning and doing things properly you can avoid injuries, have more fun and be a better skier.

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Thank you my man great advice, and videos of proper form are exactly what I need right now!
 
Thats awesome, way to be persistent. I feel you, I'm just finally figuring out clean & consistent 3's after 3 seasons of trying them.
 
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