Film Cameras to Hop On

Hey Media and Arts,

Im not a heavy poster but thought this thread might be useful at some point. It may already exist or some of you may think it is a stupid idea and if so, someone please remove it and point me in the direction of the existing one.

I spend a bit of time scrolling through classified ad and in thrift shops looking at traditional film cameras. I have become a sort a hoarder for them. I want this thread to become a guide to what is worth buying and what is complete crap. Similar to the antique glass thread but for the whole package. There are always great deals on unwanted cameras it is always just a gamble on what is worth it or not.

Posts could look like:

The camera

Maybe a picture of one in good quality

and a good price

once again if this exist please remove this.
 
Look in SD, there'll be a thread created by Bishop called "Why Does No One Call First Anymore"? Or something to that effect. It's pretty stupid, but fun.
 
I think M&A is relatively safe.

I've done it twice in here and regretted it immediately because this is one of the few troll free forums.
 
interested in this too, while im posting here, anybody know where to pick up super 8 film stock in bulk? I don't care if it's expired i just don't wanna pay a ton
 
kodak has an education discount of 30% on motion picture film. Fill out this form as if you are shooting a project for school, scan it along with a pic of your student ID, and email it to them:
http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/Educ_Allow_Order_Form.pdf

I'm just assuming you're a college student. If not, shouldnt be hard to find someone with a college ID. With the discount it shouldn't be bad, 8mm film is pretty damn cheap to begin with.
 
And in response to the thread, the film cameras I use are:

Canonet QL17 GIII

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It's a 35mm Rangefinder from the 70s. Fixed 40mm f1.7 lens. Leaf shutter with speeds from B-1/500. Built in meter with aperture priority mode and manual over ride. Very solidly built camera, pretty compact, and surprisingly sharp lens. The "QL" stands for Quick Load, and this camera is the fastest and easiest to load 35mm camera I have ever seen. I can easily load it with one hand while walking down the street. Awesome cheap street shooter. Theres a reason its nicknamed "the poor mans Leica".

I bought mine for $65 off a guy who worked at my local photo lab. The light seals on it were shot, as they reportedly almost always are. A $10 ebay kit fixed that. But I wouldn't feel too bad about paying well over $100 for one of these in great condition (especially if it was a sexy black one).

Sample shot:

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Yashica Mat 124G





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It's a medium format twin lens reflex camera from the 80s. Shoots 120 or 220 film in 6x6 format (square pictures, 12 exposures per roll of 120 film). Fixed 80mm f3.5 lens. Leaf shutter with speeds from B-1/500. Built in match needle meter (not super accurate but good enough for shooting negatives inmost situations). Great lens. Bright waist level finder. Very light and compact for a MF camera. I would recommend this camera to anybody looking to get in to medium format for cheap, or to anybody looking to shoot medium format street photography. Having a waist level finder and built in meter means you can just walk up to people and take a picture pretty much right in their face and they don't even know whats going on. Just act nonchalant and pretend you're fiddling with the camera and never look up at them.

I bought mine off of Ebay for $200, because it was CLA'd by Mark Hama, who worked in the factory that built these cameras. They can be had for much cheaper than that, but if you can spring it, spend the extra money to buy one from Mark. It WILL be spotless and work perfectly, and come with a 90 day warrantee. The film advance on mine broke after about two months and I sent it back to him and he fixed it and paid for shipping both ways. Super legit. His ebay name is lakesuwa.

Sample shot:

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dat MF Bokeh...

Also, everything on my Tumblr was shot with one of these two cameras (in my sig).
 
@POV my dad dug my grandpa's A35F out of storage, hasn't been used in 25+ years. Looks like there is something in the rear element, us there any way to clean it?
 
My camera:





Pentax ME Black

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The Pentax ME is a 35mm SLR from the late '70s. It is an aperture priority camera with a 1/100 x-sync mode and a bulb mode. There is a ME, ME Black, and ME SE, which are all the same camera but with different body colors. ASA speeds range from 12-1600. It is essentially a point and shoot and is very compact, not much bigger than a NEX-3, and has a VERY large viewfinder. Shutter speed is displayed vertically on the left side of the viewfinder with a small red light that bounces along a range of shutter speeds. Shutter speeds range from 1/1000 to 8s in the viewfinder, but it will expose for longer if needed in the dark. I bough mine on KEH.com for around $25 in "bargain" condition with just a few dings near the hot shoe. I wouldn't pay more than $40 for one in PERFECT condition. I use a SMC-A 50mm f2, which is just a plain-jane 50mm that I paid $20 for. The rubber focus ring is kind of deteriorated near the seam, but it is nothing to worry about. On SMC-A lenses, the aperture ring can be locked in the "A" position for use on newer cameras that have Program or Shutter Priority modes. You have to press a tiny little button to release it which can get annoying, so I would suggest using non-SMC-A lenses unless you have other Pentax cameras with P mode. See TijmenDal's thread on vintage lenses for other lenses to look for.

Overall I don't feel limited by just having aperture only mode, but if you want to have control over shutter speed look for the ME Super which is usually around the same price and is essentially the same camera. I would highly recommend this camera for anyone looking for a small, simple, everyday camera.
 
I picked up a k1000 for 30 bucks, ran a roll through it and they all where underexposed. I tested the built in meter against a light meter and the cameras meter seems to be pretty close.

I'm going to test the shutter speeds with a photo diode and an oscilloscope tomorrow by holding the mirror up, holding it on bulb to line up the diode, then test each shutter speed, the scope will read the time the shutter is open.
 
i have the 50mm 1.8, the 28mm f2.8 and the 135mm f2.8.

The 50mm is a great lens, I find myself using that most of the time.

 
Sweet, I plan on going for a very similar setup for my school camera, but with the slower, cheaper versions of the 28 and the 135. I might, might, go for the f2.8 on the 28mm though.
 
Most old film cameras, and especially SLR's are all just the same really.

A meter running on on or two PX625 batteries, iso and shutter dial, film advance, rewind knob, maybe a dof button. You should see them as just a vessel to use those glorious legacy lenses and film, there are few bodies that are noteworthy and those that are have been talked about extensively for decades and usually command a high price.
 
I would definitely recommend the 28mm 2.8, I have it and use it on my OM-2 and on my 5D and it is really sharp, one of my favourite lenses.
 
Leica M2, cheap (relatively speaking, $4-600, reliable as hell, built to last, M mount lenses, will make you realize how poorly everything else is made

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Om lenses are awesome for the price. I pretty much only ever shoot with the 28mm ad 135. I love those things
 
1. Go to a random thrift shop right now.2. Buy any random 5 dollar SLR with 50mm.

3. Buy a roll of Tri-X.

4. ??????????

5. Pulitzers.
 
Pentax Spotmatic w/ 28mm f/3.5 SuperTak

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I love this camera. has always been reliable for me and after a new battery the meter has been spot on. The 28 is my favorite for pretty much any landscape shooting. I got the lens for like $60 and the camera for $28.

favorite picture from it:

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Yashica Electro 35 GTN

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I just got this and have only put one roll through it but I'm very impressed with the lens for only being a $70 camera. And if I ever get jumped I can bash some faces in with it, it's like a brick.

favorite picture from it:

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people convert the lens in that electro to M mount in japan, solid piece of glass on there, the body is another story
 
that's the truth. big, a bit awkward, and cheesy feeling advance lever. plus i cant get the counter to work properly.
 
This sadly goes for many old cameras with fixed lenses. Oh well that's why MS optical in japan is so great if you have the $
 
I have this same camera and lens, but never have been able to use it because the meter on my SPF doesn't work :(

I have used this 28 as well as the 50 f2 with an adapter on canon full frame cameras, and they are pretty solid options for sure.
 
I have an rb67, but I need to pick up a new focussing screen for it. Should have some negatives getting back soon, actually my first roll of film (ran half through a spotmatic, but just realized while writing this that I never finished it).

The rb67 is built like a tank, I picked mine up in Germany (there seem to be a lot of great camera shops where you can find cool things for decent prices). I have heard the lenses are all very good, and that they are cheaper than the rz system. Bellows focussing is cool, and I really like using a waist level finder. It can be a little weird to shoot handheld, and be prepared to get a little confused/dizzy (though I think this is the case with all waist level finders). The camera is just about the exact opposite of my 1d, but I kind of like that because I have each for a specific use. Hoping to be able to post some samples soon, and I know that isn't even close to all there is to know about it/medium format, but hopefully someone finds this helpful
 
Here are a few awesome cameras that folks should jump in on.

Minolta Hi-Matic E

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I had one of these beauties for a while until it was stolen with a lot of other stuff a little under 2 months ago. Picked it up for 40 bucks and it's a freaking SWEET little camera. Basically the same lens as the Canonet, and the Cosina-built Minolta Hi-Matic 7Sii and Konica S3 auto, only it doesn't have real aperture blades - it uses a seiko shutter that acts as the blades itself (gives a pentagonal shape in the end - just like it's other aforementioned cosina-built compact RF friends.) It's full program mode all the time - so you don't have to worry about your exposure, but, you have very limited control over what the camera does with it (I found it liked to shoot at f2.8-f4 most of the time if it had the option. rarely stopped down to 2 or 1.7 unless it was very dark out and it was taking an exposure over 1/15th of a second.) You can use filters to achieve a shallower depth of field I'd imagine, but you might also just give yourself a slower shutter speed. It's not something I've ever experimented with.

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The rangefinder window is pretty standard, and for me it was pretty clear (slight purplish tinge, but oh well). Small diamond in the middle, you know the jist. Move the focus ring, line up the image, and fire. No information at all given from this camera other than if your shit is in focus or not, but who cares. This camera is all about taking photos and not screwing with exposure settings. It is compact, easy to use, and you never have to worry about anything but focusing and composing. They are cheap, affordable options with great lenses on them. You definitely don't have to spend that much to get a solid little rangefinder.

Minolta SRT 102/202

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Super classic full-manual exposure SLR. These SRT models can be had for super cheap, as they made like 10 million of them or something stupid. I have two of the SRT201 (one black and non-op, one chrome and perfect condish), but the models ending in 1 are not as nice because they do not give you your aperture within the viewfinder - just shutter speed. However, they can also be had for a bit cheaper. Mine cost me, i shit you not, 9 dollars from KEH.com two summers back. (I purchased it along with a 3 dollar Canon T50 and a lens cap in order to make my order go over 100$ so I could get free shipping during one of their free shipping over 100$ deals) That said, you'll be more likely to find them going around 30-50 depending on if there's a lens on the front, and which one it is.

These things are awesome. Super chunky and kinda heavy, but they work great, have a super bright viewfinder, are fully manual. Best of all, the lenses are fantastic and CHEAP!

I picked up a Minolta 'Celtic' 28mm f2.8 (basically like minolta's 'cheap' version of their rokkor-x series. It's sharp and built well, so I don't know how it's much cheaper, really) for something around 20$ (consider that compared to the equivalent from Nikon - the 28mm f2.8 AIS - would be like $140 alone). I have the 28, a 45 f2, a 50 f1.7, a 50 f2, a 58 f1.4, and a 135 f2.8 for this thing, and together, they would in total, cost somebody buying them used from the internet, probably under 100$.

here's a shot with the 28

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here's a shot with the 135

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Minolta gear is ultra plentiful and ultra cheap to get into. For the beginner looking for a really affordable way to get into shooting film and not be stuck with only 1 or 2 lenses, this is absolutely your best bet.

 
I already ordered the f3.5 versions of both. But whatever I got pretty good deals on them. I might upgrade later.

Anybody want to throw out some suggestions for pocket-able cameras? I was thinking Olympus XA but was wondering if there are any better options.
 
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