Figuring Out What You Wanted To Do In Life

BravoWhiskey5280

BravoWhiskey5280

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Alright guys I need your help with gaining some perspective on how I should go about something. Im having trouble trying to decide what I want to do with my life, and by life I mean figuring out what I want my career to be as an adult. Im at that point in my life where I want to take that final step out of the adolescences phase of my life and into the adulthood one. Now Im sure that there are multiple steps in this phase that take some time to get through just like the phases we went through as kids. So Im not expecting or even wanting to instantly turn into your typical honest, responsible, hard working family man. Thats my basic definition of what I'd consider a man whose figured out how to be an adult is. Yeah I know I kind of sounded a like a little corny bitch there but thats just how I typed it I guess.

Right now I feel like Im in the process of getting into that phase. Im not going to lie, I still like to go out to the bars and get a little sloppy on occasion. I still have a little bit of the spirit you get in you your freshman of college in me, but its definitely not as prevalent as it used to be. Most the time when I go out now I enjoy just sipping on a beer or two while shooting the shit with some buddies. I don't go out just to get plastered like I used to. Instead I've lightened it up when it comes to my sobriety because I enjoy not feeling like shit from a hangover every other day. Theres that and the fact that I don't want to deal with the troubles and consequences that drinking can cause. I'm confident that I've learned from my drunken experiences of getting in trouble with either the law, my friends, or my family. I grew out of being a drunk asshole a while ago and its been a little over two years now since my last major fuck up. So Im really not worried at all about falling back into that trap again because I have no desire to.

As I sit here getting older, I'll be 23 in a month, I can't help but continually think about the future though. I feel like the time I spend wondering about what I should do in life is becoming a more frequent thought each day. Im the opposite of those people that have known what they wanted to do in life from the get go. What I think my problem effecting me the most is that Im interested in too different things. Regardless of what those interests may be, I find it impossible to wrap my head around a certain interest of mine because I don't value one over another. I equally enjoy engaging in all of the things that interest me (FYI its hundreds, if not thousands of different things Im interested in like talking sports, building shit with tools, talking politics, reading about space, going skiing, etc... those are just a few off the top of my head).

Now I may have you a little confused right now, which If I were you than I'd be to, but I promise that it'll all add up here in a second. What I need is your advice on how I should go about determining what to do for a career. The perspective that Im using right now isn't working for me and it ultimately confuses the shit out of me. Thats why Im asking you guys for help. I thought that some of you have maybe gone through something similar so I was curios as to how you figured it out. I want to ultimately want to have a career that interests me because I dread the possibility of putting myself into a job that I wont like. I want to love what I do and I want it to be important to me. Im sure many of you have had similar thoughts, if so than how did you learn to come to grips with them? I have to get rid of this phobia because its really fucked up my life over the past couple of years.

Long story short is that I've gone to three different schools now, two being universities and one being a trade school and I failed to complete any of them. There are plenty of reasons why I failed, but the main one and the one relevant to this thread, is because I realized that I wasn't meant to do what I was learning as a career. I didn't enjoy it all so I dropped everything and left. Its really embarrassing for me to admit all of this to you guys and is something I really only keep to myself. Thats why I had to build up some courage for me to even write this thread because a part of me didn't want to. The other part of me knows that I can't keep fucking around anymore though. If going to make another attempt at going to school or at learning a trade then I have to do the right way this time. I originally planned on not going back to school and to just keep working where I have been for the past six months. Its a good gig and Im happy with what Im doing. It doesn't pay much though which isn't that big of deal cause Im getting by fine with what I make. But I've realized that it will never bring me the success that I hope to have one day. Now I don't want to be filthy rich or anything like that, I just want to be able to take care of the girl I've been dating for four years someday. That way I can give her what she wants while also being able to do some cool shit for myself.

I want to achieve this success through doing something I love but Im beginning to realize that its not that easy. I've been stuck looking at this wall I know that I need to get over for way too long now. Im in way too much debt from student loans and have nothing to show for it and Im not going to allow that to happen again. Its honestly one of the worst feelings I've had it put me in a dark depression for some time. Im thankfully in a better place now and am finally happy. I've learned not to dread on the past because thats a bad kind of mentality to have when your depressed. This wall is still there though and if I truly want to become an adult and be proud of who I am again than I have to get over it. So NS, how should I get over it?
 
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Just do something important man, just find what you're great at use it to make a difference.
 
go back to school. you might not know what you want to do now, but in a few years you could.
 
If you're 23 and haven't chosen a career path, then you probably aren't the sort that should have one. It's weird how we fight with ourselves stressing about conforming to cultural stigmas of success. Sit down and think about it. Once you go through this 2 or 3 times you realize that "normal" isn't for you. Just start doing the things you enjoy as much as possible. Not enough people do this, so there are more careers in cool shit than you think.

My friends that have fallen into their careers are far more satisfied than the ones that set out to become something because it was what they were supposed to do.

Let yourself fall into a career you love... just don't get distracted by Meth or prostitutes on the way there.

If you happen to take a job and you don't enjoy it. Figure out what you don't enjoy about it and go get a job that doesn't have that quality.

My work history is hilarious, but I've never had a job I didn't enjoy. I managed to take all the things I enjoyed about those jobs, and now I own my own business and do a little bit of all of those things.
 
13079344:Rachy said:
If you're 23 and haven't chosen a career path, then you probably aren't the sort that should have one. It's weird how we fight with ourselves stressing about conforming to cultural stigmas of success. Sit down and think about it. Once you go through this 2 or 3 times you realize that "normal" isn't for you. Just start doing the things you enjoy as much as possible. Not enough people do this, so there are more careers in cool shit than you think.

My friends that have fallen into their careers are far more satisfied than the ones that set out to become something because it was what they were supposed to do.

Let yourself fall into a career you love... just don't get distracted by Meth or prostitutes on the way there.

If you happen to take a job and you don't enjoy it. Figure out what you don't enjoy about it and go get a job that doesn't have that quality.

My work history is hilarious, but I've never had a job I didn't enjoy. I managed to take all the things I enjoyed about those jobs, and now I own my own business and do a little bit of all of those things.
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Pretty much this, I wouldn't stress to much about not having a career path planned at 23, I have plenty of intelligent successful friends who never got their shit together until around 25-30.

That being said, I wouldn't waste anymore time on higher education if you don't have a clue what you're interested in.
 
I worked recommend going back to school. If you've already gone and dropped out 3 times it's probably not going to work. If you figure your shit out and are going to do it right then maybe but if not don't waste anymore money.

If you like to build stuff find a job with it. Find a job in skiing. Find a job you like. The world is open. Do whatever the fuck you want. You don't have to have anything figured out and you can change at any point. You know what you like any what makes you happy.

Take some time to figure out what you want out of life and how to achieve it. Sometimes those perfect opportunities pop up out of the blue, always be on the lookout and ready for something. At the same time you can't sit and wait for life to sort itself out. You have plenty of time, I'm just saying that if you want to get moving down a path, at some point you have to figure out what you want to do.

Just do what's right for yourself, not your parents, friends, what you feel you're supposed to do etc. Just figure out what you want and go for it.

Good luck
 
Yo go to college and get a degree. I skimmed through but sorry if I missed that. A degree is better than nothing and you wont be getting as shitty jobs, and there are actual good career options. Just figure out which major or what ever suits you. Work for something you appreciate.

Right now I am part of a patients collective nonprofit and it's greenhouse bud and its 100% legal medicine, and we have dozens of 7 foot tall bushes. They are due to double in size.

To get here it took lots of fucking work. We failed 5 times, as in the property owners liked the idea at first then they became hesitant, because the idea of growing cannabis legally is fairly new. Finally we found a friend with land and we got him on the plan. Built a greenhouse and bam 100% organic greenhouse grown gorgeous buds. I strive to grow the cleanest healthiest medicines, there are cancer patients in need of meds and bad hydro chemical bud is the last thing they should be smoking. People need good medicine.

I literally work 60 hours a week including my job, you have to like what you are doing. For me tending to plants is very mellow going and I can get outside and enjoy all the vegetables and fruits growing around me, the raspberries are juicy and plump im in the greenhouse right now and wifi reaches which is so awesome! I didn't know that. Find something you enjoy to do and try and think how you can make that a career and follow that and don't quit even if you struggle. Dreams can be achieved that way.
 
At this point you should not be in school if you are not committed, it is a massive waste of money to just drop out or fail out of year after year. I think school is still a very good option but only once you have a clear path chosen for yourself that you can actually dedicate yourself to.

I will not sugar coat things either, if you have not figured out a career path by the age of 23 you might be in for some tough times ahead that could be coupled with depression and feeling like you are not doing the right thing with your life. Your friends will be out there and breaking down gates on their careers while you just spin your wheels in entry level positions, which can really hurt the feels. The longer you delay finding a career path, the harder it becomes to feel "normal" when compared to those around you... it will take you longer to purchase a house since you have delayed on getting a normalized income and purchasing a car or travel might be tougher for you to afford. I am not saying you need money to be happy, but if you want a "white picket fence" style life like the majority of western people... You will be in for a world of hurt for years until you pick a clear path for yourself to start carving your own life.

Do not get too down on yourself, it is a vicious cycle that can spur on depression. You are sad because you have no career but happy you have freedom.... but are sad because you do not have a savings account and a house/apt of your own with a newer model car like all your friends... If you understand what I am saying.... it is hard to write into text what I am trying to say.

You are still young with much life left to live, but you are coming close to the most critical point in your life which potentially could dictate the tone of the next 20 years of your life. If you are more in tune with the leisure / after work aspect of your life maybe it best to just hunker down and get a basic desk job with an average salary and live your life through your down time. Perhaps you are not passionate enough about anything to be drawn to work in that industry, which is sometimes the best approach because at a certain point something you love might just turn into a job. It is normal for people to switch careers up to 3 times through a lifetime so whatever you choose may not be a fixture for your life.

I cannot relate on your loss of ambition since I have known what I will be doing from a young age, so I am just following my dreams at this point. I took less money and moved into a new city to work a job I love.

You also need to pay your dues to reap major gains, so dedication pays off my friend.

Good luck.

Cheers
 
13079849:Sir.Bluntington said:
Right now I am part of a patients collective nonprofit and it's greenhouse bud and its 100% legal medicine, and we have dozens of 7 foot tall bushes. They are due to double in size.

What country do you live in?
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Don't keep racking up school loans unless you're going to be 100% committed. I know tons of people with severe student loan debt and it's like a black cloud that hangs over them. Do what you want regardless of the money. If you like skiing find a job at a resort. Do a kick ass job and apply to higher up jobs there when they become available. It's hard to recommend a path when we do not know your interest.

If you want a solid 2 year program for school look into telecommunications. Great program for getting a hands on job afterwards. But again I'm not sure your interest or if you would enjoy the work. It may be just another cause of debt...
 
13080144:louie.mirags said:
Don't keep racking up school loans unless you're going to be 100% committed. I know tons of people with severe student loan debt and it's like a black cloud that hangs over them. Do what you want regardless of the money. If you like skiing find a job at a resort. Do a kick ass job and apply to higher up jobs there when they become available. It's hard to recommend a path when we do not know your interest.
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This so much. This is why I fuckinghate when people say "everyone NEEDS to go to college". Getting a degree is really fucking helpful for a lot of people depending on their career choice, but not getting a degree and racking up $$$ in debt can really fuck you.

If you don't have anything in mind or don't have the motivation to get through school fuck that shit. IF things change and you figure out what you want or get serious about it you can always go and get a degree. Sure it'll be harder later in life but clearly it wasn't working right now.

And tronned.

I agree and disagree. The "American dream" today is bullshit. BE a slave to a job to make sure you can afford to buy a bunch of stuff and then when you're old you'll have enough money to retire early and vacation to golf resorts.

You need to do something to keep yourself alive, sometimes it's good to work shit jobs in between to stay afloat, but I feel you should pursue something you're into. Obviously everyone has different ideas of success and where they want to be but I feel like doing something you're happy with should be the most important thing. Personally I don't need shit. I'll never get rich in my career choice. To many people I'm fucking poor. That said I love what I do and would rather do this than get paid any amount to do a job I hated.

Financial security is awesome, but you gotta make sure you enjoy life. Also if you're frugal you can make a lot happen with a little $.

/things and stuff and whatever tldr
 
I agree with a lot of what's been said already, but I want to add a slightly new perspective. If this gets long, I apologize.

You bring up two different ideas of what you want to do in life. One of them you state explicitly: you want to fall into the description of the man you wrote in the first paragraph of the OP. Which is totally cool, but is pretty broad. You could probably attain this doing what you're doing right now.

This brings up the second idea: I think that you're feeling a need to contribute more, to "do" more, to work in a career, not a job. It's human nature to want to contribute, to feel valuable and needed. Working is a principle inlet for that feeling.

I think that before you do anything, you need to think about your relationship with work. Lots of people in here said "don't go back to college" and I think that's valid advice, but when the point of the post is to "stumble" into a job you love, it doesn't necessarily help you figure out what you want to do. I'm assuming here that by "do" you mean the second idea.

I had a lot written but it was pretty jumbled. I was having a hard time putting together my ideas and so I'm going to mull them over for a bit. In the mean time, I came across these, which seemed relevant:
http://zenhabits.net/career/
http://lifehacker.com/four-ways-to-figure-out-what-you-really-want-to-do-with-513095544
http://time.com/2799361/how-can-i-figure-out-what-i-really-want-to-do-with-my-life/
 
13080147:theabortionator said:
This so much. This is why I fuckinghate when people say "everyone NEEDS to go to college". Getting a degree is really fucking helpful for a lot of people depending on their career choice, but not getting a degree and racking up $$$ in debt can really fuck you.

If you don't have anything in mind or don't have the motivation to get through school fuck that shit. IF things change and you figure out what you want or get serious about it you can always go and get a degree. Sure it'll be harder later in life but clearly it wasn't working right now.

And tronned.

I agree and disagree. The "American dream" today is bullshit. BE a slave to a job to make sure you can afford to buy a bunch of stuff and then when you're old you'll have enough money to retire early and vacation to golf resorts.

You need to do something to keep yourself alive, sometimes it's good to work shit jobs in between to stay afloat, but I feel you should pursue something you're into. Obviously everyone has different ideas of success and where they want to be but I feel like doing something you're happy with should be the most important thing. Personally I don't need shit. I'll never get rich in my career choice. To many people I'm fucking poor. That said I love what I do and would rather do this than get paid any amount to do a job I hated.

Financial security is awesome, but you gotta make sure you enjoy life. Also if you're frugal you can make a lot happen with a little $.

/things and stuff and whatever tldr
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What people with this mindset don't get is that financial security is essential to do what you enjoy...want to ski a lot? Buy a ski house? They don't call it a rich white mans sport for nothing. Not saying everyone isn't happy doing whatever they do...im personally a firm believer that money opens up the freedom to do what you want when you want.
 
13080264:KravtZ said:
What people with this mindset don't get is that financial security is essential to do what you enjoy...want to ski a lot? Buy a ski house? They don't call it a rich white mans sport for nothing. Not saying everyone isn't happy doing whatever they do...im personally a firm believer that money opens up the freedom to do what you want when you want.
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People have different priorities. Money and the wrong job can get in the way of life as well as bettering it. To some people money just is not as important as enjoying life. If you have to sacrifice pay for a job that you love, then you budget your money on skiing versus a big TV and a nice car. I have buddies that work multiple jobs for extra cash, but they rarely have free time to chill. They usually hate working so much, but their drive is money. I prefer to cap myself at 40 hours and enjoy the time I have off. Last thing I want to do is wake up at the age of 30 and be like "damn, I am not getting any younger"... But, if money is what drives ya then more power to ya

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13080337:louie.mirags said:
People have different priorities. Money and the wrong job can get in the way of life as well as bettering it. To some people money just is not as important as enjoying life. If you have to sacrifice pay for a job that you love, then you budget your money on skiing versus a big TV and a nice car. I have buddies that work multiple jobs for extra cash, but they rarely have free time to chill. They usually hate working so much, but their drive is money. I prefer to cap myself at 40 hours and enjoy the time I have off. Last thing I want to do is wake up at the age of 30 and be like "damn, I am not getting any younger"... But, if money is what drives ya then more power to ya

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I agree with you to a certain extent. You need money to make ends meet in the first place and any scraps left are for the fun stuff. It sounds like OP does not really have any career interest or drive to work in the first place, he seems lost.... which is not a free pass for "have fun, youre young".

There is a fine line of enjoying yourself in relation to taking care of yourself and others around you. Growing up I worked 32 hours a week plus highschool between visiting my dying father in the hospital for 3 years, the money I was making was to help pay for our house and bills when my father was sick and away from work. If you have barely enough money to keep yourself afloat how could you possibly help friends or family in need on a rainy day? To me, this is important in life. Eventually being without direction or a career will lead down a path of depression or substance abuse due to feeling helpless. I do not care how much you make, you just need drive in your career that propels you forward through the ranks in whatever small ways possible since you spend the majority of your life at work and it dictates so much of your life be it through emotions of frustration or joy... or perhaps finance restrictions.

I do not live the american dream style life right now, I work in a dream job that i busted my ass to get to where i am at but after highschool i was stunted in career growth due to family obligations due to the passing of my father so I worked odd jobs for a few years to make ends meet for me and my family. Many of my friends continued with education or furthered their trades while i worked mid level shit jobs just to survive so I know what happens when you are not fulfilled in a career in one way ( enjoyment or finance), it can destroy you over time.

Careers are only temporary as most people end up switching positions later in life so the most important thing for OP is to get a foot hold on his finances and get his life started in a constructive manner just so he does not let his head fall under the water line while he treads water. There is nothing wrong with working a job that someone is not connected to just to set themselves up for a chance to chase their dreams.... I did this exact things for years and it taught me to be grateful for what I have and that life is not always all roses.

I feel for the OP, he is in a rough position that is a pretty trying time for a young fellow like himself. I was in his same shoes at his age due to different circumstances but I can surely relate to him.
 
13080387:tronned said:
I agree with you to a certain extent. You need money to make ends meet in the first place and any scraps left are for the fun stuff. It sounds like OP does not really have any career interest or drive to work in the first place, he seems lost.... which is not a free pass for "have fun, youre young".

There is a fine line of enjoying yourself in relation to taking care of yourself and others around you. Growing up I worked 32 hours a week plus highschool between visiting my dying father in the hospital for 3 years, the money I was making was to help pay for our house and bills when my father was sick and away from work. If you have barely enough money to keep yourself afloat how could you possibly help friends or family in need on a rainy day? To me, this is important in life. Eventually being without direction or a career will lead down a path of depression or substance abuse due to feeling helpless. I do not care how much you make, you just need drive in your career that propels you forward through the ranks in whatever small ways possible since you spend the majority of your life at work and it dictates so much of your life be it through emotions of frustration or joy... or perhaps finance restrictions.

I do not live the american dream style life right now, I work in a dream job that i busted my ass to get to where i am at but after highschool i was stunted in career growth due to family obligations due to the passing of my father so I worked odd jobs for a few years to make ends meet for me and my family. Many of my friends continued with education or furthered their trades while i worked mid level shit jobs just to survive so I know what happens when you are not fulfilled in a career in one way ( enjoyment or finance), it can destroy you over time.

Careers are only temporary as most people end up switching positions later in life so the most important thing for OP is to get a foot hold on his finances and get his life started in a constructive manner just so he does not let his head fall under the water line while he treads water. There is nothing wrong with working a job that someone is not connected to just to set themselves up for a chance to chase their dreams.... I did this exact things for years and it taught me to be grateful for what I have and that life is not always all roses.

I feel for the OP, he is in a rough position that is a pretty trying time for a young fellow like himself. I was in his same shoes at his age due to different circumstances but I can surely relate to him.
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I agree to find odd jobs or a job you are not connected to in the mean time to get by. But, when it comes to planning out a route for a career that is where you need to consider what you love before how much the average salary is.
 
13080394:louie.mirags said:
I agree to find odd jobs or a job you are not connected to in the mean time to get by. But, when it comes to planning out a route for a career that is where you need to consider what you love before how much the average salary is.
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You bet. Just because you are unsure of what career you want does not mean you can just flunk in and out of college for a few years, that is the worst possible thing you can do unless your parents are footing the bill for you.

Sometimes you also have to pay your dues in life before you can hit the jackpot, it builds character.

There is no reason to not try to maximize your money in odd jobs even if they are not what you want to do until you find your end goals.. Pay the bills and bank the extra so you can chase your dreams.
 
13080264:KravtZ said:
What people with this mindset don't get is that financial security is essential to do what you enjoy...want to ski a lot? Buy a ski house? They don't call it a rich white mans sport for nothing. Not saying everyone isn't happy doing whatever they do...im personally a firm believer that money opens up the freedom to do what you want when you want.
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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. Fuck All this rich white mans sport shit. That's fucking bullshit. Sure the people that have a ski house by a new set of skis and travel to destinations to ski for the weekend are probably well off, but that has NOTHING to do with getting out on the slopes and enjoying yourself.

I agree that money makes doing anything easier. You have less to worry about and can afford to do this or that without going completely broke. At the same time if you have a passion for something you can make it work. Location matters the most in terms of youth.

My parents didn't have much but they got me a season pass to a small local hill every year for christmas. For gear I went to a big sale to buy stuff from years past for 50% off. And then I rode that shit till it broke, sometimes kept riding it. IT didn't matter I was stoked as fuck just to be on the hill everyday.

Right now I'm skiing more than a lot of people. I've logged several 100+ day a year seasons. At the moment I'm skiing all summer down in NZ. How do I pull this off? It sure as hell isn't by being rich. I fucking dropped my tv off at the airport before I left because a friend had given me 300 for it. I don't think I qualify as rich. Instead I'm smart with the money I have and make plans to be able to pursue my passion while earning a living. Now conveniently to of my main passion are building parks and riding them. That works out well because my job makes sure that I'm at a mountain somewhere and can ski when I want to. At the same time I've met people down here from all over the world that are doing the same thing working other jobs outside of the mountain and still making it happen.

I bet I get far more days on the slopes than a lot of these rich people with their ski houses. Not because I have a better means but because I'm fucking passionate about getting out there and I haven't clustered up my life to the point where I can't.

I don't have a lot of money but I don't have any debt either. I've been saving over the years when I can. Also have plans to put a down payment on a small house at some point in the next few years and let some of my friends rent it and live with me.

Maybe I just don't need much and my live is that of a peasant and disgusting to most people. That said I want to ski so I do it.

Life is complicated sometimes but not that complicated. If you want something, fuck what other people say and try to make it happen. There are limitless ways you can navigate through life. Figure out what you want and carve a path out that works for you and your goals.

Sorry for the rant. I just fucking hate when somebody tries to tell me that you need to be rich to ski. Sure a lot of people on here are well off. At the same time a lot of people aren't but still make it happen. I have nothing against people with money, but don't tell me you have to be rich to get out on the hill, ski till you drop and make a life out of it. That's fucking bullshit.

YOLO
 
13080813:theabortionator said:
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. Fuck All this rich white mans sport shit. That's fucking bullshit. Sure the people that have a ski house by a new set of skis and travel to destinations to ski for the weekend are probably well off, but that has NOTHING to do with getting out on the slopes and enjoying yourself.

I agree that money makes doing anything easier. You have less to worry about and can afford to do this or that without going completely broke. At the same time if you have a passion for something you can make it work. Location matters the most in terms of youth.

My parents didn't have much but they got me a season pass to a small local hill every year for christmas. For gear I went to a big sale to buy stuff from years past for 50% off. And then I rode that shit till it broke, sometimes kept riding it. IT didn't matter I was stoked as fuck just to be on the hill everyday.

Right now I'm skiing more than a lot of people. I've logged several 100+ day a year seasons. At the moment I'm skiing all summer down in NZ. How do I pull this off? It sure as hell isn't by being rich. I fucking dropped my tv off at the airport before I left because a friend had given me 300 for it. I don't think I qualify as rich. Instead I'm smart with the money I have and make plans to be able to pursue my passion while earning a living. Now conveniently to of my main passion are building parks and riding them. That works out well because my job makes sure that I'm at a mountain somewhere and can ski when I want to. At the same time I've met people down here from all over the world that are doing the same thing working other jobs outside of the mountain and still making it happen.

I bet I get far more days on the slopes than a lot of these rich people with their ski houses. Not because I have a better means but because I'm fucking passionate about getting out there and I haven't clustered up my life to the point where I can't.

I don't have a lot of money but I don't have any debt either. I've been saving over the years when I can. Also have plans to put a down payment on a small house at some point in the next few years and let some of my friends rent it and live with me.

Maybe I just don't need much and my live is that of a peasant and disgusting to most people. That said I want to ski so I do it.

Life is complicated sometimes but not that complicated. If you want something, fuck what other people say and try to make it happen. There are limitless ways you can navigate through life. Figure out what you want and carve a path out that works for you and your goals.

Sorry for the rant. I just fucking hate when somebody tries to tell me that you need to be rich to ski. Sure a lot of people on here are well off. At the same time a lot of people aren't but still make it happen. I have nothing against people with money, but don't tell me you have to be rich to get out on the hill, ski till you drop and make a life out of it. That's fucking bullshit.

YOLO
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Holy wall of text batman...

but i agree. just scraping by is fine as long as your skiing alot
 
The assumption in these discussions is that there's two options: you can either be a total 'ski bum' / 'dirtbag' or you can be a 'slave to the system'. The reality is that there is a continuum of options in the middle.

I ski bummed for a while then decided to go back to prof. school - and while I ski less than I used to, I treasure the days I get out more than I used to. I also get a ton of fulfillment out of my work. You just gotta get the balance right.
 
13080820:theabortionator said:
gotta be trolling
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No, I think he has a valid point. If you cannot find something you enjoy doing or a goal, then what do you have to look forward to?
 
13080264:KravtZ said:
What people with this mindset don't get is that financial security is essential to do what you enjoy...want to ski a lot? Buy a ski house? They don't call it a rich white mans sport for nothing. Not saying everyone isn't happy doing whatever they do...im personally a firm believer that money opens up the freedom to do what you want when you want.
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I tend to disagree with this sentiment, though I understand where you're coming from. I think that ultimately you're going to spend the majority of your life working, not enjoying the spoils of your labor. So it's in your best interest to choose a career that you love because that's what you're going to be spending the majority of your time doing, not enjoying the money you make. I'd rather work a job I love and make a little less money than hate my job (what I'm spending the majority of my time doing) so that occasionally I can do cool things. If you manage your money wisely you can still do cool things as long as you're making a semi-respectable wage.

As far as your problem goes OP, I'd recommend sitting down and thinking about all of your interests and write them down. Think about how those interests can be translated into a job. I'd also just pick random universities and browse their majors. See if there are any that stand out to you (not because they'd yield a well-paying career, but because they just sound interesting to you). If there are some majors that stand out to you, do some research as to what kind of career you could do if you majored in that area. And see if those careers sound interesting to you. I know you've tried school a few times and it didn't work out, but 23 is still really young and you have plenty of time to turn things around.

If you pick an area that you really enjoy (be it going back to school or not) it'll be easier to work hard at it. The reality is that you have a wide range of interests, but you have to just pick one or a couple that you could actually translate into a career. Whatever you do, once you make a decision fucking commit to it. No matter what you major in or work towards, you need to work hard and commit. Half assing your way through school or a job is only hurting yourself and wasting your time. Spend some time legitimately thinking about your interests, browse some of your options, and ultimately pick something and work your ass off to pursue that interest.
 
13080817:Dolan.Escobar said:
Holy wall of text batman...

but i agree. just scraping by is fine as long as your skiing alot
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For sure. I just hate when people post the "Skiing is for rich people only" thing. Rants always ensue.

13080834:reBlocke said:
The assumption in these discussions is that there's two options: you can either be a total 'ski bum' / 'dirtbag' or you can be a 'slave to the system'. The reality is that there is a continuum of options in the middle.
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Agreed so much. So many options.

13080842:.MASSHOLE. said:
No, I think he has a valid point. If you cannot find something you enjoy doing or a goal, then what do you have to look forward to?
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If you don't have a career you will be addicted to droogs. It wasn't really what he was trying to say just that line.
 
13080860:theabortionator said:
If you don't have a career you will be addicted to droogs. It wasn't really what he was trying to say just that line.
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Substance abuse, maybe. Depression, possibly. It is not black and white with every person.

Having no direction is tough. Motivation is what gets most people out of bed every day. If you have no motivation, goals, or direction, then what is there to look forward to or live for?
 
13080872:.MASSHOLE. said:
Oh agreed. I do not think money is all some people look forward to. M
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God damn it. Many doctors and teachers do it for reasons beyond money. I am trying to say that the best way to live life is to find your passion and follow it. You may or may not become rich, but if you enjoy what you do, then you will be happy.
 
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