Ferguson, MO

Mr.Sloth

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WHY THE FUCK ISN"T THERE A THREAD ON THIS

Heavily armed police have shut down Ferguson. There is a media blackout. Arresting reporters. The Missouri Militia supposedly has boots on the ground.

This is very fucked.
 
I thought about a thread, but normally this kinds of threads delve into shit-storm territory.

Regardless, it is an absolute fuck up by both the police and the protestors. Neither side is innocent, but one thing we do need is clarity. The fact that media is BANNED from proper broadcasting is absolutely unbelievable.
 
13091645:.MASSHOLE. said:
The fact that media is BANNED from proper broadcasting is absolutely unbelievable.
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The way the media has been blacked out and the internet connection for the area was completely shut down along with the commercial airspace above the area is the really fucking weird thing about this.

Is this now 'how it's done'? Jesus that's fkn scary.
 
13091663:Huck_Norris said:
The way the media has been blacked out and the internet connection for the area was completely shut down along with the commercial airspace above the area is the really fucking weird thing about this.

Is this now 'how it's done'? Jesus that's fkn scary.
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Definitely as unamerican as it gets... fucking crazy
 
13091663:Huck_Norris said:
The way the media has been blacked out and the internet connection for the area was completely shut down along with the commercial airspace above the area is the really fucking weird thing about this.

Is this now 'how it's done'? Jesus that's fkn scary.
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Theyre really doing all of this shit? Holy fuck. That makes me think something more is going on than we know. I cant believe theyd do all that for protests/riots
 
13091801:.Hugo. said:
Theyre really doing all of this shit? Holy fuck. That makes me think something more is going on than we know. I cant believe theyd do all that for protests/riots
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Wouldn't this be illegal? Freedom of the Press is a first amendment right. And they are going around "detaining" reporters, assaulting them, then letting them go like nothing happened. This is infuriating...
 
this whole situation scares the shit out of me. this essentially could happen to the entire united states under the right circumstances.
 
13091821:Granite_State said:
Wouldn't this be illegal? Freedom of the Press is a first amendment right. And they are going around "detaining" reporters, assaulting them, then letting them go like nothing happened. This is infuriating...
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Something tells me heads will roll in regards to the detaining of reporters. The ban on non-law enforcement helicopters was apparently due to a few things including apparent shots fired at a police heli and fear of crashes due to congestion.

13091887:theBearJew said:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/michael-brown-ferguson-shooting-former-nba-star-gilbert-arenas-calls-al-sharpton-attention-whore-1461156

Fucking Al Sharpton.
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Gilbert Arenas brings up a VERY good point. The amount of black on black violence exceeds the white on black or black on white violence by a substantial amount and yet it goes unnoticed by the press and black community at large it seems. It is a shame as well.
 
well uprising like this are actually quite natural to see. after the occupy movement, we saw many social movements just like this all around the country.
 
13092000:Granite_State said:
Name of officer has been released by anonymous. Bryan P. Willman. Didn't know if you guys knew.
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Anonymous doesn't really help in a situation like this. I always get this weird feeling they're a bunch of fat white, desk warriors who think they're helping they greater goo when in reality they are just more than likely to cause another spate of violence.
 
13092010:Lucky. said:
well uprising like this are actually quite natural to see. after the occupy movement, we saw many social movements just like this all around the country.
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After the occupy movement??

Our country was started by uprisings
 
13092106:louie.mirags said:
After the occupy movement??

Our country was started by uprisings
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not really. it wasn't until 2011 that ppl actually started to care about social activism and get involved
 
13092112:Lucky. said:
not really. it wasn't until 2011 that ppl actually started to care about social activism and get involved
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Ever hear of the Boston Tea party?

Or do you need something in the 20th century? Ever hear of Woodstock?

Ever hear of Kent State shootings?

This post could be super long but i'll just leave it at the first few I thought of
 
Here's a head-scratcher:

Where are all the right-wing militias who so quickly "defended" the Bundy ranch?
 
13092124:louie.mirags said:
Ever hear of the Boston Tea party?

Or do you need something in the 20th century? Ever hear of Woodstock?

Ever hear of Kent State shootings?

This post could be super long but i'll just leave it at the first few I thought of
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yeah woodstock 99 was the shit. durst got 500,000 people in the crowd from front to back to go wild
 
13092130:Lucky. said:
yeah woodstock 99 was the shit. durst got 500,000 people in the crowd from front to back to go wild
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you know the earth existed before you were born right? Make sense that your shirts are so douchey looking. You sound like a bro. Woodstock 69 man, stop trolling now.
 
One major reason this is scary:

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13092112:Lucky. said:
not really. it wasn't until 2011 that ppl actually started to care about social activism and get involved
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Vietnam? Korea? Civil Rights movement? Women Voting Rights?

Sure. 2011 was the starting point.
 
What You Need to Know About the Riots in Ferguson from ultraculture.org

The aftermath of the fatal shooting of unarmed black teen Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri has turned the St. Louis suburb into a veritable war zone. Ultraculture covers the basics of what you need to know.

The situation in Ferguson, Missouri following the fatal shooting of unarmed black teen Michael Brown has escalated overnight from local tragedy to national spectacle. Citizens have demonstrated in peaceful protests, riots have broken out across the city, the police have transformed into a paramilitary task force, crowds have been gassed and journalists have been arrested. Here’s a breakdown of the basics you need to know:

1. The Shooting Took Place on Saturday, August 9

Michael Brown was on his way to visit his grandmother. According to eyewitnesses, he was walking in the middle of the street with a friend, Dorian Johnson, when a squad car pulled up and demanded that they get on the sidewalk. A verbal confrontation ensued.

Police say that Brown attacked the officer and attempted to take his gun. Multiple witnesses, including Johnson, say that the officer tried to pull Brown into the squad car, at which point Brown attempted to flee with his hands in the air.

The officer “shot again and once my friend felt that shot, he turned around and put his hands in the air,” said Johnson. “He started to get down and the officer still approached with his weapon drawn and fired several more shots.”

The officer remains unidentified.

Brown had recently graduated from Normandy High School and was set to begin classes at Vatterott College in Missouri, on Monday, August 11, only two days after his death.

2. Protests Began Almost Immediately

The working class suburb of about 20,000 residents responded almost immediately to the shooting. The New York Times reports:

Hundreds of people gathered at the scene of the shooting to question the police and to light candles for Mr. Brown, who was planning to begin college classes on Monday.

Residents held signs with statements like, “No killer cops in our community.” Residents were heard chanting “Don’t shoot” and “We want answers” during a televised news conference with St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar.

A photograph of Brown’s step father, Louis Head, surfaced on Twitter holding up a sign that said “Ferguson police just executed my unarmed son.”

A candlelight vigil was held on Sunday night in Brown’s memory, with a crowd of thousands turning out.

3. How Did the Police Respond?

The protesters at Sunday night’s vigil were met by hundreds of police in full riot gear, armed with rifles, shields and K-9 units. The New York Times reports:

Witnesses described a peaceful protest that later turned volatile, and there were scattered reports of violence. Images and videos captured on cellphones and posted on social media sites appeared to show people spray-painting and looting a QuikTrip gas station and other stores. Rioters shattered the windows of the gas station and damaged several police cars, said Brian Lewis, a spokesman for the St. Louis County Police Department.

It was not immediately clear if anyone was injured or arrested during the protests.

Police are reported to have responded to the crowds with rubber bullets and tear gas on Sunday night, when protests continued through to Monday morning.

One Twitter user who says he served in the Army’s 82nd Airborne Division remarked: “We rolled lighter than that in an actual warzone.”

Protests and looting have been occurring daily in Ferguson since the shooting. The FAA declared the suburb a no-fly zone until August 18, thus barring news choppers from the area.

4. Reporters for the Huffington Post and Washington Post Were Arrested, and an Al Jazeera America News Team Was Tear Gassed

Politico reports:

Wesley Lowery, a Washington Post political reporter, and Ryan Reilly, a Huffington Post justice reporter, were arrested in a McDonald’s shortly before 8 p.m. EDT. Police entered the restaurant and told patrons to leave, the reporters wrote on Twitter after their release. The police then asked Lowery and Reilly for their identification and, according to the reporters, arrested them because they weren’t packing their bags fast enough.

Lowery alleges that officers “assaulted” him, writing on his Twitter account, “Officers slammed me into a fountain soda machine because I was confused about which door they were asking me to walk out of.”

Lowery says that he and Reilly were released without paperwork or charges, and that officers refused to provide the reporters with their names.

On Wednesday night, a news team from Al Jazeera America was hit with tear gas.

Al Jazeera America President Kate O’Brien released the following statement on Thursday morning:

Last night at 9:30 CDT in Ferguson, Missouri, an Al Jazeera America news crew was reporting behind police barricades. They were easily identifiable as a working television crew. As they were setting up their camera for a live report, tear gas canisters landed in their proximity and police fired rubber bullets in their direction. Police continued to shoot after crew members clearly and repeatedly shouted ‘Press’. Al Jazeera America is stunned by this egregious assault on freedom of the press that was clearly intended to have a chilling effect on our ability to cover this important story. Thankfully all three crew members are physically fine. We believe that this situation must be investigated along with those involving our colleagues at other media outlets.

5. Anonymous is Waiting

On Sunday, August 10 online hacktivist group Anonymous launched #OpFerguson, releasing the following statement:

On Wednesday, August 13 they released audio from the St. Louis emergency dispatch:

Some highlights from the audio were posted on the now-suspended @TheAnonMessage Twitter account include:

Officer calls in assistance for crowd control before mentioning a shooting. No EMS called in.

Officer’s first move was to call for crowd control. Did not report shooting, did not call for EMS.

[Mike Brown's] body lay on the ground for hours. EMS won’t be called for four more hours.

[Ferguson] PD claimed to not know what was going on but requested more units on the scene.

On the morning of Thursday, August 14, Anonymous released the identity of the officer they claim to be the shooter. The St. Louis County police department denied that the person identified by Anonymous is the officer involved in Michael Brown’s death.

6. There is a Live Feed from the Protests in Ferguson on Reddit
 
13092175:immas said:
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Most of Nevada was pissed off by that. I mean the majority of our state is BLM ground. They "ranchers" who were involved with that don't give a shit about other's rights being violated if they aren't an old white male who's been breaking. The law.
 
Lol at people calling it a war zone. It most definitely is not, we're just lucky here in America. And idk what media blackout you guys are talking about, I've gotten news on it since it happened. Also, if you are reporting on such events you run the risk of being collateral damage and being gassed, etc.

Yes, Al Sharpton is a jackass and a racist.
 
Oh? Now you all have a problem with this... even though it's been going on for years. Funny how Americans force themselves to remain ignorant until the main stream news covers it. The police being militarized and used against citizens has been going on for a while and whenever it's brought up, it's always responded to with, "oh not all cops are bad, only a few" or the classic, "whenever a single cop does something bad, you all jump on the FUCK THE POLICE bandwagon! it's so childish!"

welp, enjoy.
 
13092718:SKI.ING said:
Lol at people calling it a war zone. It most definitely is not, we're just lucky here in America. And idk what media blackout you guys are talking about, I've gotten news on it since it happened. Also, if you are reporting on such events you run the risk of being collateral damage and being gassed, etc.

Yes, Al Sharpton is a jackass and a racist.
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Snipers, SWAT teams, automatic rifles, tear gas, rubber bullets, lockdown, fires, looking. Sounds pretty hellish if you ask me. Maybe not a war zone compared to Iraq, but compared to all of our nice white suburbs, it certainly is.

All that media coverage you saw? Yeah, that was people risking their bodies to get footage. Did you see any aerial footage? If you did, it surely was not from a helicopter. Did you hear about the journalists being arrested? Sounds like a crack down there. The coverage only really exploded onto the national scene within the past 48 hours and this whole situation has been going on since Sunday.

Jesus, if you had actually understood the news being portrayed you would have known this.

13092740:JenniferGarner said:
Oh? Now you all have a problem with this... even though it's been going on for years. Funny how Americans force themselves to remain ignorant until the main stream news covers it. The police being militarized and used against citizens has been going on for a while and whenever it's brought up, it's always responded to with, "oh not all cops are bad, only a few" or the classic, "whenever a single cop does something bad, you all jump on the FUCK THE POLICE bandwagon! it's so childish!"

welp, enjoy.
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There is a difference between having the option to militarize and actually using those weapons. I personally could not care less if they have the option to militarize. If you live in the ghetto suburbs of Chicago or Detroit and there is a gang turf war or something of the sort, I sure as hell want the police rolling in with military grade weapons because with all the arms smuggling these days, the likelihood of the police being outgunned is high.

I do think the use in the recent years has been excessive, but unfortunately in America, with the crappy news coverage and the generally uninformed public, issues like these go unnoticed. Hopefully this brings about some change in how and when police forces can actually use these weapons and tactics.

I also think the general outrage here is more geared towards the violation of the 1st Amendment and implementation of something along the lines of marshall law and the force that followed. Would the outrage about the weapons be similar if there were no confrontations? I would expect not.

Another factor people seem to be neglecting is the mishandling of the case in general. The police force in Ferguson and St. Louis County really screwed this one up. This is not an atypical handling of a situation like this. If I recall, the police force in the Treyvon Martin Case, which had much more publicity early on, was not even remotely as aggressive as this.
 
13092740:JenniferGarner said:
The police being militarized and used against citizens has been going on for a while and whenever it's brought up, it's always responded to with, "oh not all cops are bad, only a few" or the classic, "whenever a single cop does something bad, you all jump on the FUCK THE POLICE bandwagon!
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At least most of these children have better grammar
 
13092740:JenniferGarner said:
Oh? Now you all have a problem with this... even though it's been going on for years. Funny how Americans force themselves to remain ignorant until the main stream news covers it. The police being militarized and used against citizens has been going on for a while and whenever it's brought up, it's always responded to with, "oh not all cops are bad, only a few" or the classic, "whenever a single cop does something bad, you all jump on the FUCK THE POLICE bandwagon! it's so childish!"

welp, enjoy.
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Dude, ur way off base. Plenty of people have been up in arms over police brutality etc for a long time. this ammo of another police shooting of an unarmed kid is what the country needs to make changes to the police stayed. Fox is fucking talking out of their fucking vaginas, once again, about the situation, and its pathetic.

Cops these days destroy peoples lives, destroy families, barge into peoples houses in swat gear and shoot their fucking dogs. if a cop ever shoots my dog i will disembowel him on live television. Fuck the police
 
13092070:Ralph_Swaggum said:
Anonymous doesn't really help in a situation like this. I always get this weird feeling they're a bunch of fat white, desk warriors who think they're helping they greater goo when in reality they are just more than likely to cause another spate of violence.
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ya, except they have the ability to shut down the gov. blacking out the media when your police forces are going around head to toe in military gear is better i guess...
 
13093519:Kooky_Lukey said:
So, this just came out...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28806313

Obviously doesn't justify anything, but I think it question's the friends story about "going to grandma's" and everything.
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I hate the media for these types of stories because of the way they interview neighbors and family who all say the same thing. "he was a good kid who ain't never had an impure thought or done nothing wrong. he was going to college and gonna be a millionaire who donates all his money and cure all the diseases!!"

the kid in no way deserved to die. But I guarantee he was some hood rat wanna be gangster and not the pure little angel the community would like us to think he was.
 
Why don't black people riot when black people kill each other?

why don't black people riot when infants are shot in cold blood by other blacks? (Google it)

why don't black people riot when innocents are caught in the crossfire in black on black gang violence?

why don't black people own the fact that a majority of gun crimes are black on black, and white on black gun crime is actually extremely low?

where is reverend al shart-ton when a white kid is killed by a black guy?

where is he???
 
13093572:Bombogenesis said:
Why don't black people riot when black people kill each other?

why don't black people riot when infants are shot in cold blood by other blacks? (Google it)

why don't black people riot when innocents are caught in the crossfire in black on black gang violence?

why don't black people own the fact that a majority of gun crimes are black on black, and white on black gun crime is actually extremely low?

where is reverend al shart-ton when a white kid is killed by a black guy?

where is he???
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Racism generates headlines, that unfortunately does not.
 
13093599:Bombogenesis said:
The double standard is absurd
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Welcome to the good ole US of A. Double standards everywhere. Rich, poor, black, white, gay, straight, male, female, etc. you will experience double standards.
 
13093602:.MASSHOLE. said:
Welcome to the good ole US of A. Double standards everywhere. Rich, poor, black, white, gay, straight, male, female, etc. you will experience double standards.
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And the fact your ass will get destroyed by all the Social justice warriors of social media if you speak about it. this countries a fucking madhouse
 
13091663:Huck_Norris said:
The way the media has been blacked out and the internet connection for the area was completely shut down along with the commercial airspace above the area is the really fucking weird thing about this.

Is this now 'how it's done'? Jesus that's fkn scary.
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13091821:Granite_State said:
Wouldn't this be illegal? Freedom of the Press is a first amendment right. And they are going around "detaining" reporters, assaulting them, then letting them go like nothing happened. This is infuriating...
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You can thank the Patriot Act, the government can literally do anything if it's considered terrorism. surprisingly no one seems to care about that right, they took ourrrr gunz!
 
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