Feds crack down on illegal “smoke shacks” in Crested Butte - Ghey

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Feds crack down on illegal “smoke shacks”



Written by Evan Dawson

Wednesday, 20 February 2008

Some skiers cited

United States Forest Service law enforcement agents have been searching Crested Butte Mountain Resort this past week investigating the extent of illegal “smoke shacks.” Some skiers were caught with illicit items on Sunday, February 17, when Forest Service agents observed them allegedly smoking marijuana at one of the shacks.

Illegal structures can be found from the extreme limits terrain to high traffic areas right under a lift. Their construction ranges from simple lean-tos to fully enclosed tree houses.

But regardless of where or what, it’s unlikely that anyone had a building permit—the shacks are illegal structures, built on Forest Service land without permission. And while many people may know they exist, few may know where.

CBMR vice president Ken Stone says, “I’m sure we’ve got a few… I know they’re probably all over just about every ski area in Colorado.”

CBMR assistant mountain manager Dale Massey says the Forest Service is concerned about the extent of illegal structures on Crested Butte Mountain Resort. “They don’t look kindly on stuff being built in the forest, regardless of what it is,” Massey says.

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Mountain manager Jack Gibbons says, “Forest Service law enforcement approached us about going into National Forest on the ski area and having a look around. Obviously they knew there were some structures out there that were problematic and they don’t like them.”

According to U.S. Forest Service patrol captain Dan Nielsen, “It is illegal to construct, or maintain any structure on forest service land without special use authorization.” He says maintenance would include tightening string or wires holding the structure together, or clearing a path to access a structure.

Nielsen says inspecting the ski area for illegal structures is a routine procedure. “We’ve worked with the other resorts and found similar structures,” he says.

The structures pose several problems, Nielsen says. One of them is safety concerns. He says, “If somebody is skiing through the trees and isn’t aware something is there it could create a crash hazard.” He says people also tend to congregate around the structures, and then skier-on-skier collisions could occur.

Aside from safety, the shacks pose environmental concerns and natural resource damage. “If you build these things they tend to use a lot of native materials. In some of the structures it was apparent they used awls from some of the surrounding trees,” Nielsen says. The structures also used nails, rope, and wire that can accumulate in the forest, or damage trees they are affixed to, he says.

Damage to the trees could lead to bark beetle infestation, Nielsen says, a problem that is afflicting thousands of acres of National Forests across the state, but has yet to overtake the Crested Butte area.

Nielsen says the law enforcement officers also observed trash in the snow in and around some of the half-dozen structures they investigated.

However, just because the shacks are found doesn’t mean they will immediately be taken down, Nielsen says. “It depends on the circumstance. If it poses an immediate threat to public health and safety we get in there and try to get them removed as quick as possible. If there’s no immediate threat we’ll do it at the first available opportunity.”

Massey says CBMR doesn’t have an official policy on smoke shacks. At times in the past, Massey says, the resort would work together with the Forest Service to eradicate the illegal structures. But, he says, eventually the resort relaxed its practice. “Of course, you tear one down, and four more pop up. It went by the wayside after some time,” Massey says.

The Forest Service officers went beyond just investigating the illegal shacks. On Sunday, February 17 Forest Service agents were present at one of the shacks when several skiers appeared and began smoking marijuana. Nielsen says the officers had probable cause to search the skiers after observing their behavior.

“They were observed smoking marijuana, which is illegal in the state of Colorado. It is illegal regardless of where you’re at on federal property,” Nielsen says.

Nielsen says the skiers were issued a summons in U.S. District Court in Grand Junction. Nielsen said he did not have the details of how many skiers (or snowboarders as they were not identified) were present or issued summons.

Nielsen says the skiers weren’t breaking the law just because of possessing marijuana, but also because they were smoking it while skiing at the resort. “According to the Colorado Skier Safety Act they violate the law whether they ski under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Just a couple hits of a joint or drinking a pint and they’re considered under the influence,” he says.

Nielsen says the Forest Service will be following up on the summons to see if it can be learned who built the shacks. “If it can be determined who built the structure, or who has been maintaining the structure, they will be cited,” he says.

Mt. Crested Butte police chief Hank Smith says because the agents were acting on federal authority, they can issue summons only in a federal court.

Smith says, “In this state possession of less than an ounce is a petty offense. There’s no chance of jail. The fine is usually 200 bucks.”

Smith says the Mt. Crested Butte police do not handle many situations of marijuana use at CBMR. “In our world, given staffing levels and the other problems we may be dealing with, if someone is smoking a joint and doing nothing but—on our priority list that’s somewhere below cows on the road,” he says.

 
are you fucking serious???? YOU HAVE BETTER THINGS TO BE DOING JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

goddamn it. if this shit keep up i'm going to be pissed (/paranoid). so fuckign gay.
 
Don't they have anything better to do?

The best is the last line by our Police chief "In our world, given staffing levels and the other problems we may be dealing with, if someone is smoking a joint and doing nothing but—on our priority list that’s somewhere below cows on the road,” - Thats why we live in CB
 
Smith says the Mt. Crested Butte police do not handle many situations of marijuana use at CBMR. “In our world, given staffing levels and the other problems we may be dealing with, if someone is smoking a joint and doing nothing but—on our priority list that’s somewhere below cows on the road,” he says.

AMEN.
 
wow, gay they are attacking shacks cus thats prob the best place to do it, besides the gondola and not be doing it in the wide open on the slopes..... Sick comment by the sheriff though, so true
 
Smith says the Mt. Crested Butte police do not handle many situations of marijuana use at CBMR. “In our world, given staffing levels and the other problems we may be dealing with, if someone is smoking a joint and doing nothing but—on our priority list that’s somewhere below cows on the road,” he says.

Fuck the feds at least the local cops are cool, how much tax payer money was wasted having

17 forest service agents bust a few kids smoking pot. Mother fucking BS!!!!
 
That's a really good point. I can understand tearing down shacks from their standpoint of not building structures on National Forest Land. But, to put together a fucking gang of rangers to go out and spend tax payer dollars to hunt these things down, deconstruct them, and then cite some skiers that are just chilling out is ridiculous. If you happen to come across a shack, and you work for the forest service, ok, tear it down if you have to, you win. But, to bust some skiers blazing a joint in the woods is just plain retarded. Can't you just say "get out of here," and leave it at that? Holy shit.
 
thier reasoning for skier safty is such bs. Saying skiiers come together around them so they will hit each other they cant be serious
 
That is so gay. Fuck the forrest service. That is just such bullshit. I hope they dont come to my resort. Blaze huts are the shit. A neccessity for safety meetings.
 
“If somebody is skiing through the trees and isn’t aware something is

there it could create a crash hazard.” He says people also tend to

congregate around the structures, and then skier-on-skier collisions

could occur.

I laughed so hard at that. if people are skiing through the trees they could crash into the hut! or the trees ya dumbass.
 
wow...why would they care? shouldnt they be cracking down on murderers and drug distributors and such?

the pot shack on whistler is where its at though :P
 
i think its lame but than again can you really blame a business for helping authories rid there resorts of drug use........... (well thats what tehre thinking anyway)
 
And while many people may know they exist, few may know where.

CBMR vice president Ken Stone says, “I’m sure we’ve got a few… I know

they’re probably all over just about every ski area in Colorado.”

HAHA I love how his name is Ken Stone
 
there are so many there, i saw like 3 in one day not even looking for them. breck has one with like a plastic see through roof, and one with a mini ramp inside.
 
people have been making smoke shacks for generations. before jesus even. they just didnt call them smoke shacks. so fuck johnny law for taking down your shack he cant stop you from burning so blaze one for your shack.
 
Smith says the Mt. Crested Butte police do not handle many situations

of marijuana use at CBMR. “In our

world, given staffing levels and the

other problems we may be dealing with, if someone is smoking a joint

and doing nothing but—on our priority list that’s somewhere below cows

on the road,” he says.

what an awesome reply

 
Fuck thats sucks, i enjoyed those so much. I'm not to worried about it tho, more will just pop up next year. And they can't have found all of them CB has a shitload.
 
whenever i think of colorado police i think officer barbrady from south park. haha, imagine that mutha fucka comin up in yo bitch when you smokin buds. i'd just about die if that happened to me.
 


Solution:

Eat some brownies/cookies instead - should've kicked in by the time you're up there and warmed up. And there's nothing on you to be found.

 
wow dude.. just sad.. ski patrol knows about the smoking shacks all over mt hood meadows but they dont care.. they even put some of those like big padded things and pictures of gnarly 70s skiers in there...
 
they care about a few wooden shacks, but they dont give a shit about clear cutting massive amounts of forest.

That sir, is the definition if CRAZY!
 
bunch of cock sucking fags... i mean seriously the forest partol service.. i mean is this a joke what do they do hike through the forest looking for people chillin smoking some ganj. SHITS WEAK. Its a plant, get over it. oh and the smoke shack thing... here in the east u just pull to the side of the park and blaze one up thats what ive seen here.
 
yea god why is the government getting on our case? i mean its illegal but thats not a good enough reason!!! and we're building these dumpy buildings on public land for our personal use and so we can do illegal drugs, thats none of their business!! really.
 
the USFS is an agency of the Department of Agriculture

they're just pissed that your herb crop is better than any crop they manage

and isn't it ironic....don't you think?
 
"Skier on skier collisions"?

This is a complete joke. Take my taxpayer dollars and do something worthwhile dammit. Lord knows there are billions of Forest Service roads that need repairs, and lots of understaffing; but they are out chasing stoners in the woods. Wow.

 
yo man i live in ny but every time i go to Mount Snow kids are chillin right on the sides of the trail
 
this is a great thread. I feel like in every thread of this nature you get those lame-ass gvernment sympathizers. Keep it up!!
 
bump for this retarded government bullshit. And mad props to the CB police chief for that last quote. That shit is priceless.
 
"it’s unlikely that anyone had a building permit"

HA HA ha, When you are lost in the woods and need to make a lean-to for survival, ask yourself this first: do you have a permit???
 
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