Faction Prodigy 4.0 vs Line sick day 114 vs Scott Scrapper 115

[omocz]

Hi, I want everyday ski for every types of snow.I will use this skis with marker kingpin. I love powder, but you know, you couldnt ride powder every day. Im looking for stiff ski which will be good in high speed and on hard snow too. What are your experiences? What do you recemended for me? You shoul give me some questieons about me and abou what I´m looking for.

Thank you very much.

P.S sory for my bad english

 

[patagonialuke]

Hi, I want everyday ski for every types of snow.I will use this skis with marker kingpin. I love powder, but you know, you couldnt ride powder every day. Im looking for stiff ski which will be good in high speed and on hard snow too. What are your experiences? What do you recemended for me? You shoul give me some questieons about me and abou what I´m looking for.

Thank you very much.

P.S sory for my bad english

Those three skis are pretty different, so it mostly comes down to particular priorities, what skis you've used in the past, and what you liked / disliked about those previous skis.

Prodigy 4 is the heaviest, does the best job of smoothing out rough snow, and is also the best for throwing tricks and skiing with a playful style.

The Scrapper 115 sits on the opposite end of the spectrum — it's extremely stiff, very lightweight, and very directional. It's the least stable of the group except for in untracked powder, though it'd be the easiest on the skin track. But if you want a damp, playful, and / or forgiving ski, I wouldn't recommend it.

The Sick Day 114 slots somewhere in the middle. It's not far off from the Prodigy 4 in terms of damping and stability, but it's a more directional design that rewards a more forward, driving-the-shovels stance. It's much more forgiving and easier to slash around than the Scrapper, but it doesn't ski switch as well or feel as balanced in the air vs. the Prodigy 4.

 

[omocz]

Those three skis are pretty different, so it mostly comes down to particular priorities, what skis you've used in the past, and what you liked / disliked about those previous skis.

Prodigy 4 is the heaviest, does the best job of smoothing out rough snow, and is also the best for throwing tricks and skiing with a playful style.

The Scrapper 115 sits on the opposite end of the spectrum — it's extremely stiff, very lightweight, and very directional. It's the least stable of the group except for in untracked powder, though it'd be the easiest on the skin track. But if you want a damp, playful, and / or forgiving ski, I wouldn't recommend it.

The Sick Day 114 slots somewhere in the middle. It's not far off from the Prodigy 4 in terms of damping and stability, but it's a more directional design that rewards a more forward, driving-the-shovels stance. It's much more forgiving and easier to slash around than the Scrapper, but it doesn't ski switch as well or feel as balanced in the air vs. the Prodigy 4.

Luke, thank you very much. My previsous skis was Hagan y boost . I like these skis when I was skiing on small hills. In powder the skis were good. For thier wieght I like touring to hill with them. But the skis were bad In high speed

in broken, hard, icy and etc. terrain. This season I started going with my friends to bigger mountains and I find out these skis aren´t good for this. Now I´m looking for versatile freeride skis with ski touring binding. I don´t do any tricks or ride in the park so

zhis parameter does not affect my choice. Sometimes I jump some small drop.

Thank you very much.

 

[patagonialuke]

Luke, thank you very much. My previsous skis was Hagan y boost . I like these skis when I was skiing on small hills. In powder the skis were good. For thier wieght I like touring to hill with them. But the skis were bad In high speed

in broken, hard, icy and etc. terrain. This season I started going with my friends to bigger mountains and I find out these skis aren´t good for this. Now I´m looking for versatile freeride skis with ski touring binding. I don´t do any tricks or ride in the park so

zhis parameter does not affect my choice. Sometimes I jump some small drop.

Thank you very much.

Got it, I think the Sick Day 114 is a pretty safe bet then. It's gonna be a lot heavier than the Hagan skis you have, but the upside is that it's gonna be so much more stable at higher speeds. It's a ski I end up recommending to a wide range of people since it's pretty stable, yet pretty light and still very easy to ski.

 

[omocz]

Got it, I think the Sick Day 114 is a pretty safe bet then. It's gonna be a lot heavier than the Hagan skis you have, but the upside is that it's gonna be so much more stable at higher speeds. It's a ski I end up recommending to a wide range of people since it's pretty stable, yet pretty light and still very easy to ski.

Thank you again. I would like to add, my height is 180cm and my weight is 65 kg. My budget for skis is ~300€. Prodigy is 50€ cheaper than line, but it isnt problem to pay more for lines if they are better then prodigy. In my amatuer opinion these 2 skis are similar with little differences. Im sure I will not see difference in powder, but I think I could se difference on hard snow or broken snow. Which is better in this? Line is lighter this is good for uphill, but what about downhill? If you know some better skis send them, but max 350€.

Thank you very much.

 

[patagonialuke]

Thank you again. I would like to add, my height is 180cm and my weight is 65 kg. My budget for skis is ~300€. Prodigy is 50€ cheaper than line, but it isnt problem to pay more for lines if they are better then prodigy. In my amatuer opinion these 2 skis are similar with little differences. Im sure I will not see difference in powder, but I think I could se difference on hard snow or broken snow. Which is better in this? Line is lighter this is good for uphill, but what about downhill? If you know some better skis send them, but max 350€.

Thank you very much.

I think I'd still lean toward the SD 114 since it'll feel more intuitive coming from your current skis, and while it's lighter and easier on the skin track, I also don't think the Prodigy 4.0 is that much more stable at speed. I'd really only recommend the Prodigy if you specifically wanted a much more playful ski. Especially given that you're coming from a super light ski, I think you'll be very happy with the improved stability of the SD 114. In firm and / or choppy snow, the two feel pretty similar in terms of stability since the Prodigy 4 does a slightly better job of absorbing / smoothing out the rough snow, but the SD 114's shape does a better job of not getting knocked around as much.

If you can get it at an even better price, the Blizzard Rustler 11 is another great option in this category, but I wouldn't go for it unless you can get it cheaper than the SD 114. Compared to the SD 114, the Rustler 11 is a bit better at carving on firm snow but not as damp or stable at high speeds.

 

[chapo]

hey man how u doin

what about the 184 bent chetler?! I personally use them with the king ping, mounted -2cm from center and it is insane. these are probably my most favourite skis of all time. so fun and versatile. from powder to groomers to park to slush. u can do absolutely everything with them AND they have one of the best price-performance ratio in the industry in my opinion, plus they look sick.

Note: if you're searching for an allmountain ski i would definitely NOT go above 100mm cause then u don't have any fun on the normal slopes!!

 

[omocz]

I think I'd still lean toward the SD 114 since it'll feel more intuitive coming from your current skis, and while it's lighter and easier on the skin track, I also don't think the Prodigy 4.0 is that much more stable at speed. I'd really only recommend the Prodigy if you specifically wanted a much more playful ski. Especially given that you're coming from a super light ski, I think you'll be very happy with the improved stability of the SD 114. In firm and / or choppy snow, the two feel pretty similar in terms of stability since the Prodigy 4 does a slightly better job of absorbing / smoothing out the rough snow, but the SD 114's shape does a better job of not getting knocked around as much.

If you can get it at an even better price, the Blizzard Rustler 11 is another great option in this category, but I wouldn't go for it unless you can get it cheaper than the SD 114. Compared to the SD 114, the Rustler 11 is a bit better at carving on firm snow but not as damp or stable at high speeds.

Thank you very very much.

Ok, I will buy Sick day 114. Should be a 190cm good for me? I´m 182 cm tall. My friend think they are too stiff for my weight(about 60-65Kg whithout equipment), but I dont think so.

Thank you.

 

[patagonialuke]

Thank you very very much.

Ok, I will buy Sick day 114. Should be a 190cm good for me? I´m 182 cm tall. My friend think they are too stiff for my weight(about 60-65Kg whithout equipment), but I dont think so.

Thank you.

Hmm, which length did you have for the Hagan skis? And did they ever feel particularly long or short to you?

 

[omocz]

Hmm, which length did you have for the Hagan skis? And did they ever feel particularly long or short to you?

Hagan is 178cm, but when I was bought this skis I was 170cm tall. I´m 18 years old and still little bit growing . Now they feel short for me.

 

[patagonialuke]

Hagan is 178cm, but when I was bought this skis I was 170cm tall. I´m 18 years old and still little bit growing . Now they feel short for me.

gotcha, I'd go with the 190 in that case. They are going to feel much bigger, though they have much more rocker and taper than the Hagan skis, which will help make them feel a bit shorter on snow. If you're worried about the length, then checking out the 188 cm Rustler 11 might make sense if you can get that at a good price.