Facebook people who call themselves photographers

Yeah.... but doing a wedding or 2 is different than advertising yourself as a professional.
People don't know what they are paying for. Oh sweet, here is this awesome PSD for you to use for your print campaign. Sweet. Can't blow it up cause you should have done it in Illustrator!
I most recently had a client send me a virtual tour images and I said it was going to be a cube tour. He paid nearly a grand for photos that aren't usable because he didn't use a fish eye.
I worked for a clothing company as a graphic designer/web designer. The owner hired a friend to do a photoshoot. He failed to realize that he did the entire shoot with his camera on "web" setting. Then the boss got upset with us when we tried to explain to her that we couldn't blow up the 600x800px image to 4ftx6ft.
I get it if you are talented and say you will do something to build your portfolio. But you can't call yourself a professional until you have a portfolio of professional work. It's the amateurs that call themselves professionals that hurt the creative industry so much.
 
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hahahahhaha oh god that is beautiful
 
yeah but thats a point and shoot and megapixels mean nothing after you have like, 10. unless you do some serious cropping/blowing things up and have excellent resolving power. which p&s's do not have. but nor does a t1i with a kit lens
 
i guess, from a p&s point of view. im not trying to sound all elitestly here but if you put that up on fb and watermarked it, you'd be no better then them.
 
I take pictures sometimes, I don't put watermarks cuz thats retarded, nor do I call myself a photographer. I'm a videographer and sometimes like to take it slow and take one picture at a time, rather than 24-60

a picture I took, kinda cool.

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hahahaha lordy. great thread!I already deleted the couple of friends (high school classmates) I had like this

my one friend who does this, is *actually* a photographer (ie, people pay him to take photos and he has film cameras also and is not 15)

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zach copland photography.
 
Hahaha i was wondering how long it would be before tumblr was mentioned.

I would say about 50% of the stuff on my tumblr is over edited hipster shit, BUT thats why it go's on tumblr. they eat that shit up. i would never turn in the majority of that stuff for my college level photo class haha
 
Dude sick stuff! Here are a couple of my shots from the Oregon Trail rally.

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yeah i watermarked that shit. but just to get people to my website. which is a piece of shit right now haha
 
I definitely know what you mean. But there are some people that take amazing pictures and are actually good at it. Like my friend who came to a backyard jib and shot over 1000 pictures, and only uploaded lien 40 of the best ones. They are all so good
 
Alright kids. I am a working photographer/student at the University of MT. Nothing bothers me more than all these stupid hipster apps for iphones like "instagram" and such. It's disappointing that recently photography had to be bundled into the whole hipster scene. I've been photographing for like 10 years and i'm 22, I've been busting my ass and studying photography for 4 or years, and just in the last year or so I do consider "professional photographer", although i don't call it a career or profession as of yet. I do consider myself a professional, because I HAVE had professional training, I DO have internships, I HAVE shadowed/assisted very successful photographers on shoots, and because I DO actually make a pretty decent amount of money for my photographs, all while being a full time student, working a standard 9-5 job, and photographing on the side. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to burst my own bubble with the previous statements, I have just worked my ass off on top of working my ass off to get to where I am today.

Yeah, it really bothers me when people buy a DSLR and buy Photoshop Lightroom--> then they'll throw one of those hip presets that Lightroom has onto a shitty basic photo,-->crop the shit out of the photo-->annnd last they will throw a watermark on it, and call themselves photographers. I wish it was a requirement to be able to go shoot with an old manual 35mm camera and learn how to develop your own film/print your own photos, before being able to buy a Canon Rebel and Photoshop.

That being said, photography is changing rapidly, and for the "real" photographers, it is very frustrating. But it is what it is.
 
Completely agree with you, this is why there should be a union, before it gets much worse. With minimum wages, the noobs would be out of work and out of your way.

right now there are two things that justify your services: skill, and price.

yes you have the skill but at the end of the line a lot of people value the price more. If a noob doesnt have the skill but has the good price, he gets more work and recognition.

If you take away the price factor and make it fair game for everyone... only skill matters. you can pay more to have the best of the best, but at least those who dont have the skill, wont be worth paying the price.

I like how this thread has gone from funny bashing to political debate and industry structure talks.

you guys helped to make this thread awsome!
 
exactly!

I have a big a tattoo of an old 8X10 camera on a wood grain tripod on my forearm, because I have been very passionate about photography/video for a good portion of my life. I live in hipster-ville USA, Missoula MT, which is filled with hipster scum, and I have been called a hipster by a few of these clowns who role around with their tight pants and their Holga cameras around their neck like god damn clothing accessory. It's absolutely infuriating!
 
Don't get me wrong, I love Missoula, but It's getting pretty bad, there are a lot pretentious ding dongs here.
 
key word there is montana. I doubt more than a few of what the world would consider 'actual' hipsters exist in montana. they're probably just kids who shop at urban.
 
I've been to Missoula. I've also been in the mission district SF, silverlake LA, williamsburg, green point, and park slope brooklyn, in austin during south by, and in portland. trust me when I say you haven't seen shit
 
I live in Portland, Im from Montana, I've spent time in Missoula and I assure you it is full of hipsters. Mainly out of state kids going to school there.

 
A year or more ago I remember when I got my first DSLR. I knew nothing about it, but all I remember was putting the camera on Manual on the car ride home and forcing myself how to shoot in manual. I got everything so quickly and definitely feel as though now it was so worth it to just throw myself into it like that because it actually made myself learn to make better decisions then the camera could. A month after I got my DSLR I got a film camera and basically made myself learn how to shoot with that. I feel as though as a photographer always feeling like theres so much more to know is only beneficial to you rather than these new kids who come up and think they know everything. Now i've scored a few photo jobs here and there and still say I don't even know that much about photography. I know what I need to know to use all my equiptment and get good shots, but theres always more I could do to get a better shot. The only reason I watermark any of my work is because when I do little shoots and stuff the people who hire me want to go through me to get prints and stuff, not go onto my site and print them out so I throw my watermark on there. Idk thats just what they told me to do. I never change my watermark settings so usually it just gets left up on all my shitty photo's too. But I've literally uploaded 15 photos all year to facebook of some kids skating just so they could check them out.
 
holy sweet newborn infant baby jesus, i might just track down Craig Bebfhjkrahfz for the sole purpose of kicking him in the head and urinating on his photography/camera/unconcious body
 
^ When I first saw that, I thought the image was still loading. Then I realized that the idiot who took it never made it in focus....
 
lolz to the idiots who put a copy right protection logo on their photos they clearly did not reed the face book terms and conditions, face book gains the rights to any photos posted on face book and you can basically download any photo from it.
 
yeah at first i thought it was a clever use of depth of field, but then i realised there was nothing in focus in the foreground haha
 
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