Everyone on NSers please be careful

danng, that's an amazing story.

Is the show going to pay off SAR or no?

I have a similar story too except it didn't involve me.

My sister is 9 years old and skis on a race team. Her friend is also 9 and has an older brother who went out to Mount Hood Oregon over the summer for race camp. Him and a friend were skiing when suddenly everything turned foggy and they went off the camp lane, and into the unknown. Took rescuers 24 hours to find the two. They were fucking retarded though, they tried hiking uphill which only lead them further off their path.
 
yeah, if you ever duck a rope people will die. Proven fact....
Seriously not the case, I dont get why you feel like bashing on the OP here, he knows what he did was stupid, hence making this post. He's trying to keep other people safe and I think thats a great thing.
And to the OP, you did the right thing by building a place to stay warm, don't listen to these little kids yelling at you to hike back up your tracks in the dark and freezing cold. That decision probably made the difference between a rescue and a body recovery. Vibes to you and your buddy, and thank you for posting this and enlightening NS
 
no disrespect taken man. i hear what you're saying. we had been trying to get out since 10:30 am so following our tracks uphill and postholing with our boots really seemed like a tough option. we had really made our situation worse by looking for an alternate route out. had i realized we were lost early on, your solution would have worked perfect.

our decision to camp came down to the fact that it was getting cold and very dark. (no moon that night). i knew how to make a warm spot in the snow (since my pops and i have done winter camping to get at some trophy trout) and i had my exhausted girlfriend and myself to worry about. i just wanted to get her in a warm spot. (you guys would be suprised at how warm you can get several inches thick of pine branches.) we were hungry as hell and wanted to go home more than you.
 
Did you have a lighter to start a fire?

But more importantly, tell me about these winter trophy trout. I'm trying winter fly fishing for the first time this year.
 
Thanks for putting yourself on the chopping block to bring us a reminder and a chance to learn from your mistake. Glad you made it out. I was cliffed out really bad one time after I unwittingly ducked a rope. The rope in question was a black cable about 9 feet off the ground (looked similar to a avalanche bomb tether line). There was even an "Open" sign about 50 feet uphill from me. I looked back at a ski patroller above me, as I edged my way under the cable, and she said nothing. I should have listened to that little bit of doubt in my mind, about whether or not that was a boundary cable. Long story short: Don't duck ropes, they are there for your safety. And if there is any doubt, don't duck ropes, they are there for your safety.
 
welp i will be thinking twice before duckin ropes out west! DOne way too many times without thinking. GLad your safe..no one here needs to give you shit..im sure you have had enough in real life. No idea what i would have done if i had my girlfriend as well. Camping would seem like the best option with her....hiking up and out....not so much.
 
There's a few things

1) Do you know the terrain well enough and are confident you can get out? If so you would climb out. If you are lost like the OP, it's a better be to wait (assuming you are confident that you will be rescued, e.g. had a plan for the day, told people where you would be going, if you don't do this you might end up like those fools at Kicking Horse last year).

2) Climbing back up the way you came is great, but it sounds like the OP didn't have skins. Post holing a few thousand vert in deep snow is possible but takes a huge amount of energy and time. If the GF was already exhausted this is a problem.

Another point to take away might be to never take inexperienced people out of bounds (especially without appropraite gear, food etc).
 
Crazy story man, glad you're okay! Don't listen to the people being dicks, we all do dumb stuff. Given your situation, you definitely did the right things. Can't wait to see the show!
 
Sounded like you'd been watching a load of man vs wild with the old Boulder and pine branches for insualtion trick!

 
my problem was the fact that ducking ropes isnt necessarily just endangering you (the rope ducker) but plenty of other people as well.

im happy the OP is fine, and glad hes learned his lesson. it was just something you shouldnt ever have to learn in the first place. ropes are there for a reason
 
SHUT THE FUCK UP, you are from the East coast and obviously haven't ever seen an avalanche let alone any "real" bc experience. Avalanches kill 100 people average per year, that doesn't include people that simply get stuck. The OP was an idiot and he knows that thus he made this post. You should come out to colorado and ski some BC without avy equipment, prefferably east vail chutes.......
 
This thread is full of a bunch of little kids that think they know what they are talking about. The OP is not an idiot. He ducked a rope, fucked up, took responsibility for his action and got him and his chicky out of it alive. Now he is showing us as a reminder. BE CAREFUL. So all you little fucks need to stop giving him shit. He probably would of lasted longer then most you little dumbfuck kids. God NS pisses me off sometimes.
 
Glad you made it out alive. We all make mistakes, thankfully yours is just going to cost you financially.

Thanks for putting this up here. Hopefully someone takes something from your story, even if the majority of posters seem to be hellbent on being "holier than thou".
 
Wow dude, stoked that you got outta that one! Glad you had the smarts to build a shelter, and even more glad you understand your mistake so as not to get into that situation again!
 
Honestly, if he was as stupid as a lot of you children are saying, he wouldn't have had the balls or intelligence to step up, say "I fucked up and here's why", and make this thread.

However, you should have just built a house. Then you would no longer be lost, you would just live there.
 
Seriously?

Although there is great skiing in the east in areas, there are relatively few places with true backcountry dangers like are present out west.

Jay is a great mountain for sure, but the dangers are limited compared to even the sidecountry of places out west.
 
Thanks for putting up this warning. A guy I know went OB at Jay Peak with a friend and they got separated in the trees. The friend spent the night out lost and had to be rescued. Anytime you leave the trail you take a risk where ever you are. My brother in law went OB in Europe and got stranded on top of a cliff in sight of the chair lift. Too steep to climb back up. Had to have a helicopter rescue. These were lucky, what if a fall and an injury were involved too! You say you have blisters - did you get bad frostbite?
 
thats because the people that ski tuckermans are morons. its a miracle the average is only 2
 
Take a lesson from this guy.

If you get lost ob (and you will) do everything you can to make it back to civilization before nightfall. If it is getting dark and you cannot make it back, call for help and TAKE SHELTER! It gets cold out there and you will need to save your energy for the morning. A dude who didn't know to build a snowcave already died lost in the backcountry this year.

Good work takin care of you and yours man.

http://www.jacklondons.net/buildafire.html
 
Good work staying alive man. What the critics in this thread don't realize is that once you found yourself in a difficult situation - regardless of the choices that got you into it - you kept your cool, did the right thing, and now you're alive to tell about it. You didn't "get lucky" - you made the right choices to keep yourself alive, and that's something we can all learn from.

So, is the GF impressed with your survival skills, or still a bit ticked off about your orienteering?
 
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you gotta les stroud it and wear a suit like this if you do that again. glad you didnt die... and now you have a story to one up anyone anytime
 
Problem: Not everyone has an iPhone. I'd say 60% of people don't. Also, most mountain areas don't always have phone reception.
 
I'm going to try to avoid derailing this thread, but. I really don't think it should be the taxpayers responsibilty to pay for some one else's negligence. If he had gotten into that situation by no fault of his own, he wouldn't have paid for it. I think it only makes sense that if you make a mistake, you are solely financially responsible. There, I'm not going to debate if you reply, just making an obvious statement.
 
I certainly see your point of view here and I can't say I disagree. I'm HAPPY to pay because my ass got saved. I even engaged them about getting the payments started.

However, the state of NM has gotten involved and is telling the ski resort they cannot charge me based on a rule they implemented. Apparently (and I heard this all second-hand) there were two lost skiers several years ago who had a cell phone and DID NOT call SAR because they didn't want to pay for the rescue. As a result, no one came to save them and one of them ultimately died. The government then stepped in and said they don't want people denying rescue based on cost.

As for it being the taxpayer's responsibility; what do you think I am? I'm an engineer and I pay a SHITLOAD of taxes. A job that requires an engineering degree and an MBA puts you me in a tax bracket that would make your head explode. Over the past three years (since I started a "real" job) I have paid into the system a whole lot more than my rescue costs.

I'm not trying to debate but I'd like to hear your thoughts. I mean really, I pay A LOT into the system and this may have been my "get out of jail free card." I think this whole topic is a slippery slope because you start to put a price on a human life. That is a scary thought for me.

To restate the first part of my post though "I'm happy to pay and it was worth every cent. At this point the state and the ski area are discussing this and I have no input. I'll do what I'm told with a smile on my face and a GPS locator beacon in my pockt" :)

 
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