Everyone on NSers please be careful

highaltNM

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Guys,

I NEVER thought this could happen to me. I have been ducking the rope for years at my local hill and it went horribly wrong on Friday. I am still shaken up bad and the blisters on my toes and fingers will take some time to heal.

Please be smart when going out of bounds because I wasn't sure I was gonna live through this.

Seriously A-holes, be careful.

http://www.lcsun-news.com/new_mexico-news/ci_14414459?source=email

Two skiers rescued from the mountain

subtitlebylineJim Kalvelage jkalvelage@ruidosonews.com

datePosted: 02/16/2010 09:11:53 PM MST

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Two wayward skiers were rescued Saturday morning, after spending a

chilly overnight in the deep snows of the northern Sacramento Mountains.

Ryan Adair, 27, and Catherine Murphree, 23, both from the Dallas area,

had gone to Ski Apache Friday and had gotten off course, and traveled

beyond the resort's boundary. The father of one of the skiers notified

police when they failed to return back to the family home near

Cloudcroft.

"Their car was still in the parking lot (at Ski Apache) after closing

last night," New Mexico State Police Lt. Eric Garcia said Saturday. "A

search was planned, but the snow conditions were too difficult to

really bring in searchers at night."

State Police Officer Sam Houston found Adair's car in the lot, said White Mountain Search and Rescue (WMSAR) member Tony Davis.

"The usual sweep of the mountain, the daily routine at closing time

each day, had already been performed, but the staff of Ski Apache

conducted an additional search of the ski area, as well as a search

outside the boundary to the north, but no skiers or tracks were found,"

wrote Davis and WMSAR base camp officer Joyce Westerbur.

About 11 p.m., Friday, search and rescue organizations were mobilized,

with an incident commander from Las Cruces was brought in to direct the

operation.

During the night, searchers from the U.S. Border Patrol used night

vision goggles and heat detection equipment to scour Ski Run Road, but

there were no signs of the couple. WMSAR members Rich Adams,

Bob Dragoo and Mark Younger search-ed a possible location for the pair without success.

Early Saturday morning the Ski Apache Ski Patrol performed another

sweep of the area. Ski Apache operations director Justin Rowland and

ski school manager Larry Schneider searched the southern border of

Apache Bowl. Two sets of ski tracks were found leading into a ravine

below Sierra Blanca.

A New Mexico National Guard Blackhawk helicopter was requested to

search from the sky. And the all-terrain rescue vehicle acquired by the

Lincoln County Office of Emergency Services was brought in because of

the deep snow.

"The discovery of the sets of tracks by Rowland and Schneider had

narrowed greatly the area the helicopter would have to search, and soon

after it arrived in the Ski Apache environs the missing skiers were

spotted," wrote Davis and Westerbur. "The couple and their gear were

winched aboard as the copter hovered. A medic aboard the helicopter

examined the couple and found them hungry and tired, but otherwise OK."

The Blackhawk landed on the Alto Lakes Golf and Country Club links near

the clubhouse, where Adair and Murphree were escorted to a waiting

vehicle.

Westerbur attributed the happy outcome to the skiers' savvy.

"First of all, the two subjects of the search were young, athletic,

experienced skiers and in very good condition. As night fell and it

became apparent to them that they would be out all night, they found a

large boulder and scooped out the snow on its downwind side. They lined

the snow with pine branches for insulation and despite overnight

temperatures in the lower 20s, were able to stay warm by huddling

together. These survival skills allowed them to continue on in the

morning.

"During the night, the young man heard what at first he thought was an

elk bugling. He remembered that this is not the season for elk to

bugle, and realized the sound was probably from searchers looking for

them. He got up and yelled, but heard nothing further."

Rowland and Schneider were lauded as true heroes.

"Their discovery of the tracks and efforts to follow the tracks down

through complicated terrain narrowed the search area down to where the

helicopter could readily find the lost skiers. Search and rescue could

not help but be impressed by the dedication of all the Ski Apache

personnel."

 
Wow that's super fucking scary. Reminds me of that show "I Shouldn't Be Alive." I'm glad you guys are alright.
 
I moved to Texas for work but I'm from NM you turds. I still get 30 days in which isn't bad.

Yes, I was chasing pow and there was no way to go uphill to the ski resort because of the snow (160 inches). Pic below

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seriously? that's so cool, ill definitely keep a look out for that episode..thats insane though, you're lucky to have gotten through that
 
Holy shit, I looked at this for 5 minutes before I realized that it was you in the story! Way to stay smart man, glad your ok!
 
I don't want to sound like an ass but seriously dude did you A not buy a map and have your route checked out, B DUCK A ROPE? The first is an obvious move for any bc skier (I'm also guessing you didn't have any avy gear?) The second, I mean come on man you ducked a rope in search of "pow". This probably isn't the first time you ducked ropes, so I mean what did you expect.
On another note I am glad you made it out ok or rather ALIVE.
 
no. do we really want to be shown as irresponsible people? I am glad you two are alive but that was a stupid mistake that could have been avoided. you should have had avy gear and supplies if you planned on going out of bounds, even if it was into the slack country. Still glad you guys made it out alive.
 
Because it's wiser to stay put like any avalanche or backcountry training will tell you so you're easier to find. Doing so will conserve body energy and heat which you will otherwise waste by hiking and trying to find your way back in the dark, making your death quicker. I believe the most recent issue of freeskier showed how to build a snow cave.
 
Wow, scary shit! But yeh dude, if you're gonna duck ropes and go out of bounds then avvy gear is a must, its pretty stupid to go without it! That said, nice bear grylls skills!
 
To all the haters: Thank you for pointing out that my mistake was stupid. That is what I was doing by posting this. I don't want someone else to make the same mistake carelessly.

We were OVERCONFIDENT because we had skied that little bowl a 100 times and nothing ever happened. Its low angle so we didn't have AVY gear. Usually we just cross right back over to the resort but we missed our turn this time. Am I an idiot, yes.

I know I made a mistake so there is no reason for the hate. I'm just so thankful for the SAR and National Guard.

 
yes there is. idk where you ducked a rope, but frequently ducking ropes you arent endangering only yourself, but other people as well. if it slides, god knows who or what is under it. not to mention the risks for all the search and rescue people, and the waste of resources on something that is easily avoidable.
 
yes, its MUCH better to be idle and conserve your energy for the daylight. Sitting idle in the open is not a good idea but we were inside of a lined cave huddled up. Thank god for my experiences in Rocky Mountain National Park.

Cold as shit but we didn't come out as Popsicles.
 
You've got the right attitude on this end of the situation. I hope that you are inspired to take an avy course now.
 
I fail to see how avy gear would help beside some sustainable goods and med kit. Pretty sure he played it well. He's alive!
 
Why the dick bag attitude? The kid realizes he made a mistake and is simply posting his story as a warning towards other NSers who could be in the same position
He's not on here bragging or being an asshole about it...he's genuinely grateful and sorry for what he had to go through..why jump on his back when he already acknowledged it?
You mean to tell me you've NEVER ducked a rope?? Even at a mountain you're familiar with? If not your probably in the 5% of skiiers who never have...grow up and get off the kids balls already
 
Hey man, I'm really glad you escaped relatively unscathed. You were lucky, but it sounds like you made some really great decisions in an unbelievably critical situation that ultimately saved your lives.
Yes, of course, you took a huge risk in ducking the rope, but it's not a mistake that should be punishable by death.
Big question: Did you guys have a "we might die so let's fuck" fuck?
 
How are you getting so much hate. Your seiously so smart to make that cave and line it instead of trying to get out and being stuck in deep snow all night
 
Wow, great to hear you're ok. Sounds like you had a general idea where you were, and were just planning to hike up the bowl the next morning. Also I noticed the article said it got down to 20 degrees at night. We'll thank god you weren't up in colorado, it would probably be -20 degrees. I know you said you have skied that area 100 times do you think you will ski it again?
 
My Dad and I have already made plans to hike in and camp by the rock after the snow melt. He is as mountain man as they come and I wouldn't have made it without all the things he taught me over the years about being outside.

As for skiing it, I'm not even going to think about it right now.
 
Look at a map of the area, why didn't you ski to the bottom of the drainage and traverse/climb out to the parking lot? Looks like a couple hundred feet at most. Oh well, at least you know you made a mistake and admit it, props for that, I guess the lesson is never go beyond the boundary unless you understand the terrain well enough to know where to go at the bottom of it.
 
Your an idiot.

If your sking back country and there aint a road at the bottom of the mountain, a helo waiiing for you, or there is the option to hike back out, then what did you expect to happen?

Know your terrain, study it on the map first, take a compass an learn how to use it.

Glad your alright...but you get no sympathy from me.

 
Its actually spelled "You're an idiot." NOT "your an idiot". You're is a contraction for you are. I think I've already established this FACT. I FUCKED up.

didn't ask for sympathy and don't want it. you must not have read anything i have written.
 
The snow was too deep to make it up over that ridge. We tried, and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried. I wasn't going to leave my GF behind (she couldn't get up the rocks) so we tried to go to a lower elevation and cut over. When we realized we were lost; we stuck to the river.
 
I'm going to assume you aren't from the west coast/don't go in the BC...

When lost in the wilderness "trying to pull yourself out of the situation" is the main thing you DON'T want to do. You will learn that in any avy/snow survival course.
 
Well when you're calling someone out for being an idiot you should probably check your grammar, or else you end up looking like an idiot...

but anyways
good thinking OP, definitely smart seeking shelter till the daylight again. Glad you made it and i'm sure you learned a valuable life lesson.

 
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