Emo and Indie= the same?

skogenjake

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are these fashions the same? i mean there is a difference between like dashboard confessional and like the shins. can someone clarify this? which is cooler? and scenesters too. theyre like indie without the scarf, but with the tight pants and shit. scenesters dont wear the black thick glasses. but emo and indie too. what the hell its all a mess.

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no

modest mouse = indy

simple plan = gay (emo)

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i dont think any are into self destruction. thats the goths and the hardcore punks with the multiple safety pins and the adderol abuse

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yea,my friend calls modest mouse emo but it's indie

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Well emo is mostley about complaining about ploblem is their life. Girlfriends, rejection are the principle subjects.

Gothics are about death and destruction to the world. Goths are disgusting. Ever heared about Cannibal corpse? they suck

Responsability,what's that?
 
i listen to more indie rock. yet i own no scarfs???

yeah actually i listen to almost everything. mostly indie rock (interpol, the hives, killers, hot hot heat and sutch). then like other shit that i dont know how to classify.

but yet i own no scarfs.

i do own converse that i got before they became this massive emo infested orgy. and wear sometimes with a sweater and khakis. but that the the extent of the indie appearence.

anything after that, your one of those he bitches that goes home and cries all over the wood of your guitar causing it to get all stained and your strings rust out.

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simple plan is gay...but they arent emo

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to me any band like green day/ simple plan is emo. I really dislike emo. I find emo kids to be rather homosexual. They like to cry alot and slit their wrists because no one will go to the dance with them. I feel sorry for emo kids and what they put themselves through. They must all be very emotionally distressed

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Actually greenday is punk rock...Well use to be punk. They turned emo because it is so easy to write about feelings. There was also a demand for emo.I dont know why because a lot of people hate it.

Good Charlotte also turned.Simple plan is emo actually.

Responsability,what's that?
 
ok green day and simple plan are pop punk. that is what they are. no one kills themself from that scene. the girls that dress like avril lavine are pop punk. they wear lots of black clothes with pink and bright green mixed in. and shitloads of buttons.

i think emo kids, indie kids, and pop punkers arent generally the suicidal ones. if some emo kid says they are its just for attention. those crying bitches dont have the cojones too. when someone kills themselves, its usually someone not very associated with any type of music. these kids find friends through the music. with out it or a sport, just like a few friends and not much to do but think, they usually are the ones with the slit wrists.

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ok yes i know they arent emo but I still look at them as emo. All the kids in my school that are emo are the only ones who listen to all of that music.

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indie rock is a completely different style of music than emo. emo is more long, drawn out harmonies and more melodic than indie. it's also usually more on the acoustic side of things or soft distortion. kinda like the juliana theory, dashboard, saves the day, etc. indie is more like modest mouse.... simple plan is neither; they're more like pop punk wannabe's and they just plain suck.

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indie rock is modest mouse. indie is rilo kiley, of montreal, and the concretes. and indie is more harmonic that indie rock or emo.

and dont fuck with the saves the day. some of their shit is emo sounding. but dont fuck with them. if youve only heard acoustic songs by them your really off. theyve released i think 6 albums and its not drawn out. its not emo.

i love the hives. what are they quatlified. like experimental indie rock?

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dude. i wasnt messin with saves the day. did i day i didnt like them? no. i just think they are more emo-ish than indie, thats all. chill, man...

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i wasnt seriously pissed off. ahhah. im still looking for what saves the day techniclly calls themselves...

haha techincally (occording to purevolume.com) they are rock/powerpop...i thought like n synce qualified as powerpop. it is a sad day in the skogenjake household.

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okay, first of all what is the question. you say 'fashions' are you speaking in terms of genre? as in what is the difference between emo and indie? independent music is just like independent film, music that it is produced for less money, by smaller companies. as mainstream music didn't have any interest in some of these artists (nor did the artists have interest in the mainstream production companies), they were sort of solidified in their interests and thus certain styles emerged. for a long time indie music was placed in the category of alternative music but it basically split and formed its own genre around the time that alternative was occupying a major focus of the mainstream (with bands like nirvana). mainstream music didn't accept it or have much interest in it because, well we know that most people are stupid and looking for straight up good times/happy music. indie has a range of styles/attitudes emotional, quiet, soft, dreamy, melancholy, etc. obviously these don't go with mainstream music.

emo on the other hand, contrary to some peoples beliefs, did not come from indie music. it originally came from punk, a sort of artistic rendering of some of its styles (influences of course too). emocore bridged the transition from hardcore (similar to punk) to emo, because of the particular emotional expression that it gave.

but whats important is to understand that bands often utilize styles from more than one genre. modest mouse isn't just indie, it uses aspects of emo as well for sure.

if you have questions about this stuff a simple and easy to use source is www.allmusic.com

i didn't really understand your initial question so i have no clue if this answered any of what you were asking...

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Emo= Emotional

Indie=Independent

I would call a band like Interpol postmodern or post punk or progressive or....(shudder) "Alterantive". I think of indie bands as relatively unknown folk type groups or “underground groups� Like wilco, dispatch modest mouse (at one time) etc. The original definition of an emo band is weezer. I would say the New Emo is bands like Dashboard Confessional, Thursday, Death Cab for Cutie, Taking Back Sunday and such. But in the end it's basically it’s all subjective because the terms are ambigous and tend to overlap. Really its just sematic buzz-word jargon for; the music snotty asshole cooler-than-you hipster kids listen to but you don't who it is or how and where to find it.

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i like emo bands like deathcab, and the postal service (same singer). Now thats considered emo. Simple plan, good charlotte, sum 41, newfound glory and all thats "pop punk" completely different. iM more into the sounds and stuff like that right now though

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^postal service is not emo in the slightest. its indie pop and indie electric. no emo the same goes for deathcab, sans the electric.

"if you stay ill totally put out." - markd13 in regards to my having had it with this site.
 
alpinecowboy knows TONS about music. he is like the jesus of music. like even on the punk conversation on NS he was crazy. my question was one i already knew the answer too. i just wanted to start a thread to branch off from the emo one because alot of the responses that went emo kid bashing were questions. and everyone incliding my grandma knows emo is emotional and indie is independent.

death cab is amazing. raoul duke taking back sunday isnt really emo. either is weezer. they qualify themselves as alternative. weezer says they are alternative indie rock. it seems like we forgot all about alternative, which was the general halo over all of these subcatagories. i had more to day but its 11 and im chatting with a hot babe on aim. haha. no im serious.

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^actually the jesus of music is lanemeyers. i don't think i've ever met anyone with a greater knowledge of music than him. its nuts.

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SCREMOOOOO!!!...sucks....mad funny word tho....screaming emo....but u probably already got it

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ya they are the same they are both gay

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indie isnt gay and grunge definately isnt gay. theyre just acting gay to get attention, but the actual music is good

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I like dead kittens.

 
Man that is the stupidest thing ever, go read you vogue, and listen to your american idol

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Personally I'd say bands like Simple Plan are plain Pop. I mean all they do is have mohawaks and tatoos, but their music is in no way Punk. As to Saves the Day, I wouldn't say they are Emo. They say they are "Power Pop", but aI would just call them rock. Although their old demo sound like they were a plain Punk band when they first started.

 
This is a completely rediculous thread. The only even moderately indie band anyone has mentioned is modest mouse, how can you guys even carry on a discussion about it?

 
their "old demo" is an exact rip off of one of the greatest bands ever... Lifetime. it is exactly the same. then they sorta went their own way after that and got some recognition.

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I like dead kittens.

 
I dont know, I think they still had some unique elements on their CD that seperated them from Lifetime. Still, their first CD, Can't Slow Down, is in my opion, their best ever. The song Jodie=Amazing

 
Word, they can do it, because they are posers, trend fallowers

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im gona have to disagree with you on that. altho it sounds great, it is terribly unoriginal. id rather listen to lifetime's helo bastards. its way better, and very similar.

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I like dead kittens.

 
I agree with you that Hello Bastards is a very good CD, and better then Saves the Day's demos. Still, I think that while Saves the Day was obviously influenced by Lifetime, they really had their own style and sound, altough they were similar.

But in my opinion, Can't Slow Down tops even Hello Bastards. I mean songs like Jodie, Handsome Boy, and Always Ten Feet Tall are, I think, some of Saves the Day's best.

 
Wintersleep, Choke and G.O.M.M.

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Laterails:Yeah i think they aren't adjusted, or it could be the fact that all that is holding them together is one of my pubes
 
deffinetly not the same

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live a life of courage somtimes i write fucking amazing songs that make people shit there pants but when im not doing that i live a life of courage" -tom delonge
 
they arent the same at all. i guess the fashion is sortof similar though.

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