E-mail from Michael Moore

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An E-mail from Mike Moore. A lot of it is just movie promotion, but there's some interesting stuff in here... and wow, i'm shocked about O'Reilly. (sarcasm meter: 9)

There's a gap in there that I filled in myself (apparently something was deleted). It's ''(this administration has taken are)''. That seemed to be what he was saying, but that's just my take on it. Just fyi.

Mike's Words : Mike's Message

Thursday, June 18th, 2004

Some People Still Don't Want You To See My Movie... From Michael Moore

Friends,

We're a week away from the nationwide opening of 'Fahrenheit 9/11' and not a day goes by where we don't have some new battle to fight thanks to those who are still working overtime to keep people from seeing this film. What's their problem? Are they worried about something?

A Republican PR firm has formed a fake grassroots front group called 'Move America Forward' to harass and intimidate theater owners into not showing 'Fahrenheit 9/11.' These are the same people who successfully badgered CBS into canceling the Reagan mini-series a few months ago. And they are spending a ton of money this week to threaten movie theaters who even think about showing our movie.

As of this morning, a little over 500 theaters have agreed to show the movie beginning next Friday, June 25. There are three national/regional theater chains who, as of today, have not booked the movie in their theaters. One theater owner in Illinois has reported receiving death threats.

The right wing usually wins these battles. Their basic belief system is built on censorship, repression, and keeping people ignorant. They want to limit or snuff out any debate or dissension. They also don't like pets and are mean to small children. Too many of them are named 'Fred.'

This new nut group is the Right's last hope in limiting how many people can see this movie. All of their other efforts have failed. Let's recap:

1. Roger Friedman at FOX News reported that the head of the company which first agreed to fund our film “got calls from Republican friends� pressuring them to back out. And they did. But... Miramax immediately picked up the film! Except...

2. Michael Eisner, the chairman of Disney, then blocked Miramax (a company owned by Disney) from releasing the film once it was finished. But... public attention and embarrassment forced Disney to let the Weinstein brothers of Miramax find another distributor! But...

3. Instead of a new distributor stepping right in -- as all the media predicted would happen -- it took another month to find distributors who would take on this movie. A number of other distributors, thanks to various pressures, were afraid to get involved. It looked for a while that we would be distributing this ourselves. But then Lions Gate and IFC Films rode in to the rescue!

So, we have beaten back all attempts to kill this movie, and the only thing in the way of you now seeing 'Fahrenheit 9/11' is this Republican big-money front group trying to force theaters not to show the movie.

Please, contact your local theaters and let them know you want to see 'Fahrenheit 9/11.' Tell them that some people don't know that this is America and that we believe in freedom of speech and the importance of ALL voices being heard. (The members of MoveOn.org—an ACTUAL grassroots organization—have done a very cool thing. They are pledging to send a message to theater owners and are planning to attend a showing of the film on its opening weekend.)

I appreciate their efforts, but you don’t have to be a member of MoveOn to help stop this effort to keep “Fahrenheit 9/11� from making it to screens across the country. If a theater in your area is planning to show the film, just give them a call and thank them for standing up for the freedom of speech. If your local theater isn't showing the film, call them and let them know that you would like to see it and you'd like them to show it.

The White House and their minions in our media have presented one distorted version of the truth after another for the past four years. All we are asking for is the right to show what they HAVEN'T shown us, the real truth. The truth that ain't pretty (and is, sadly, damningly hilarious).

On top of all this, the MPAA gave the film an 'R' rating. I want all

teenagers to see this film. There is nothing in the film in terms of violence that we didn't see on TV every night at the dinner hour during the Vietnam War. Of course, that's the point, isn't it? The media have given the real footage from Iraq a 'cleansing' -- made it look nice, easy to digest. Mario Cuomo has offered to be our lawyer in appealing this ruling by the MPAA. Frankly, I would like to think the MPAA is saying that the actions (this administration has taken are) revolting, we need to protect our children from seeing what they have done. In that case, the film should be rated NC-17!

However it turns out, I trust all of you teenagers out there will find your way into a theater to see this movie. If the government believes it is OK to send slightly older teenagers to their deaths in Iraq, I think at the very least you should be allowed to see what they are going to draft you for in a couple of years.

Finally, some very sophisticated individuals have been hacking into and shutting down our website. It is an hourly fight to keep it up. We are going to find out who is doing this and we are going to pursue a criminal prosecution. I'm preparing lots of cool stuff for the site so watch for new items on it next week ([http://www.fahrenheit911.com/

andhttp://www.michaelmoore.com).

Thanks again for your support and I hope to see you at the movies on opening night, June 25.

Yours,

Michael Moore

PS. I am sponsoring a number of benefits around the country next week for local and national peace and justice groups, including Military Families Speak Out and September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows. Please check your local papers and my website next week for further details.

PPS. Also, I am going to be on the “Late Show with David Letterman� on Friday night. It's on CBS at 11:35 PM Eastern and Pacific. And on Monday morning (June 21) I will be on “The Today Show� on NBC. Next week, Jon Stewart and Conan. I'd go on O'Reilly but, like a coward, he walked out on a screening we invited him to (with Al Franken just a few rows away!). I personally caught him sneaking out. Embarrassed, he tried to change the subject. He said, 'When are you coming on my show?' and I said, 'Turn around and watch the rest of the movie and i'll come to your show'.

He walked out. Fair and balanced.

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Did anyone else receive this?

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I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

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Always

Here I am

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Here I am

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that's way too much reading

Not playing to win is like sleeping with your sister. Sure, she's a great piece of tail with a blouse full of goodies, but it's just illegal.

Sex is like snow cause you never know when you're gonna get it or how much you're gonna get.

 
You clearly have not seen some of my other posts...

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
I think he eggarates (sp?) a little when he says Right wing ideals are keeping people ignorant, but I otherwise I find he makes fair points and I will most definetely will see the movie.

I don't think any theaters in Canada are blocking the showings, as it wouldn't affect our politics...

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'Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.'

'I understand small business growth. I was one'

-Dubya!
 
^Yeah, it's hard to tell where he's just being intentionally dramatic during that part... I mean, he's obviously stopped being serious by the end of that paragraph. Or maybe not... DAMN THOSE FREDS!

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
O'Reilly is a dumbass. I just read the P.P.S.

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'Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.'

'I understand small business growth. I was one'

-Dubya!
 
that was good stuff, especially the part about republicans, 'They also don't like pets and are mean to small children. Too many of them are named 'Fred.' How'd he get your email address?

'On a scale of 1 - 10, you all are extremely gay' - coolcat410

'Wow, half of you people is morons' - sporegasm

'im gonna vote fer bush bec he has done good things' - estaked

'There is nothing wrong with Pres. Bush.' - ScratchCobra66

 
Forums, or from his site, I guess. I don't remember, I might have left it there, or e-mailed one of the site admin a while back.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
Everyday the biased scum-of-the-earth imbecile that is Bill O'Reilly never ceases to amaze me with his overall idiocy and lack of grey cells between his ears.

Hey Jesus, did you order a cab? -Robin Williams

there's a war going on? I better grab my gat, I wasn't aware. -Ghostdragon

Armada

 
this guy is a genius. i'm going to see it as soon as it comes out. mr. moore ought to step lightly though, i feel a government conspiracy coming.

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Good Fun With A Hand Gun.

MiKeE: If Shaun White is hot I hope I'm ugly.

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hoodratz47: sweet your now black....
 
'They also don't like pets and are mean to small children. Too many of them are named 'Fred.'

' where the hell did this come from? I like pets. I'm a republican. He's being stereotypical. It seems this statement is just like all the rest of his stuff...crap. I know some of you will say that he isn't serious about the quote above, and you are probobly right because nothing written by michael Moore should be taken seriously.

also, the left seems want to beat republicans rather than terrorists.

make love to me toilet-Atlantaski
 
THATS BVECAUSE THERE ARE NO TERRORISTS!!!

well... not none, but not as many as we are led to believe. do you understand that we are not all in constant danger? the world does not exist for the soul purpose of killing you. iraq war, afghanistan war or none, we'd be in the same position terror wise, just without the hype.

in the news, i think from the associated press in our local paper this morning there was a thing about a Northwest airlines flight... somehow the pilot got confused into flying into grand rapids north dakota or somewhere like that... and instead he landed at a nearby airforce base... just flew in a commercial plane... they interrogated him for a long time before they let the planbe leave, but still... you understand that if someone REALLY wants to find a way to kill/destroy/terrorize.... theyll do it. i hate you fuckers who are always worrying about your own safety.

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

Smuggs has a good point. Julia Roberts tried eating me when i was an orphan, but i bit her toe off, so she left me alone. - misterbinz
 
i hate people who worry about their own safety too

'On a scale of 1 - 10, you all are extremely gay' - coolcat410

'Wow, half of you people is morons' - sporegasm

'im gonna vote fer bush bec he has done good things' - estaked

'There is nothing wrong with Pres. Bush.' - ScratchCobra66

'Everyday the biased scum-of-the-earth imbecile that is Bill O'Reilly never ceases to amaze me with his overall idiocy and lack of grey cells between his ears.' - trevorwoulddoit

 
okay, you hate me because i worry about my own safety and wnat to survie...smart. (if you couldn't tell, that's sarcasim.)

No terrorists!!! what about the bombings in Bali, bombings in Riyad(sp). Osama is still living. Al queda still has many terrorist cells. 9/11 is only a precursor of things to come, unless we do things to prevent future terrorist attacks, which we are doing now.

make love to me toilet-Atlantaski
 
im surviving arent i? you and the rest of your kind are paranoid and are using up lots of resources to protect that idea.

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

Smuggs has a good point. Julia Roberts tried eating me when i was an orphan, but i bit her toe off, so she left me alone. - misterbinz
 
i was being sarcastic too, if your post was directed at me

Terrorism is definitely still around, but it seems to me that it is glorified by people like Bush and Blair. I don't know any numbers, but I doubt that the number of deaths due to terrorists is that high. Pressing problems like the current 'ethnic cleansing' in Sudan, and the civil war in Congo are resulting in many more deaths. I realize that those may not necessarily be international problems, but there are human rights abuses going on in huge quantities, and that needs to be stopped.

'On a scale of 1 - 10, you all are extremely gay' - coolcat410

'Wow, half of you people is morons' - sporegasm

'im gonna vote fer bush bec he has done good things' - estaked

'There is nothing wrong with Pres. Bush.' - ScratchCobra66

'Everyday the biased scum-of-the-earth imbecile that is Bill O'Reilly never ceases to amaze me with his overall idiocy and lack of grey cells between his ears.' - trevorwoulddoit

 
oh yeah, i forgot, I don't don't ust care about my safety, i care about eveyone else's too. That's why we need the war on terror.

make love to me toilet-Atlantaski
 
misterbinz, sorry about that. mt post was directed at you, and crystal..., but it's hard to tell if it's sarcasim or not.

make love to me toilet-Atlantaski
 
im not sarcastic, i guarnatee every single person on this forum and pretty much everyone we all know would still be alive without the 'war on terror.'

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

Smuggs has a good point. Julia Roberts tried eating me when i was an orphan, but i bit her toe off, so she left me alone. - misterbinz
 
^That's probably actually true, but it is still reasonable to care about one's safety, and because terrorism is so glorified, people think its a bigger threat than it is

'On a scale of 1 - 10, you all are extremely gay' - coolcat410

'Wow, half of you people is morons' - sporegasm

'im gonna vote fer bush bec he has done good things' - estaked

'There is nothing wrong with Pres. Bush.' - ScratchCobra66

'Everyday the biased scum-of-the-earth imbecile that is Bill O'Reilly never ceases to amaze me with his overall idiocy and lack of grey cells between his ears.' - trevorwoulddoit

 
exactly, but safety consciousness is overwhelming in this country, that and a lack of responsibility, thats why we have so many stupid motherfucking lawsuits. listen, YOU'RE BEING PLAYED BY HTE MEDIA. there is no overwhelming terrorist threat, yes there is a threat, but it would exist with or without this war. bah.

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

Smuggs has a good point. Julia Roberts tried eating me when i was an orphan, but i bit her toe off, so she left me alone. - misterbinz
 
a lot of people are making a big deal out of the 9-11 commision, determining whether Bush could have done something to prevent 9-11, people criticize him for not preventing it yet, they criticize him for having war to prevent another 9-11

make love to me toilet-Atlantaski
 
so hes covering for himself, after ignoring intelligence he uses brute force to try and bludgeon an entire world region into submission. i like the commission because i like anything that makes bush look like an ass, but that doesnt change the fact that our country is full of paranoid assholes.

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

Smuggs has a good point. Julia Roberts tried eating me when i was an orphan, but i bit her toe off, so she left me alone. - misterbinz
 
As I pointed out earlier, Logan, Moore obviously was not serious in writing that thing about the pets and small children. I find it mildly amusing that you were unable to detect that, and that you later implied that WE wouldn't be able to catch on to YOUR sarcasm.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
You have to understand that Moore himself is a very biased person. It helps him make his point, so, when you see the movie, remember, don't believe everything you see, but let it encourage intelligent thought.

wow good observation! You are officaily the new ns genious. You can pick up your award after I shove it up your ass. - Phrosty

 
^ ATLredneck, you say the war in Iraq was to prevent terrorism. I'm not saying part of the goal isn't rooting out terrorists, but honestly, you and I both know where the terrorists come from. But attacking Saudi Arabia right now is implausible, because they supply so much oil. Whereas there's the embargo in Iraq... how convenient!

I think you can see where I'm coming at, and I hope this is discussed in Fahreinhet 9/11.

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'Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.'

'I understand small business growth. I was one'

-Dubya!
 
Moore is one of the most biased people around, he is in direct opposition to those 'right wingers' that he talks about. He is going to put together a very interesting movie I can tell you that, and the marketing surrounding this movie has been amazing. Talk about free advertisements. Remember Passion of the Christ? This movie is getting the same type of publicity, all based on controversy. I really hope his movie makes it big as we need 'save a tree, remove a bush'.

 
JDMAY, read this: 'I know some of you will say that he isn't serious about the quote abovethe one about pets and children, and you are probobly right because nothing written by michael Moore should be taken seriously. '

I knew he wasn't being serious about that, but why the hell did he write that. I'm not offended, or think he's serious, but that came out of no where. It's just kinda odd to read something like that in the middle of an email trying to get people to watch a movie.

make love to me toilet-Atlantaski
 
cant read it....too long

dont go to new york. all it has to offer is i love ny stickers

rollercoaster or a dragon tail....but with a rollercoaster you can session to that song 'i wanna ride...a rollercoaster baby baby...i wanna ride ect'- me

DONT WORRY....MIDGET BITES ARENT FATAL!!
 
I too am a republican, and that thing about the pets and children thing really hurt! especially the part about people named Fred...my name is Fred! Especially because I can't see a joke when its right in front of me! Haha just kidding...not really.

uhh, Youve got your skis on backwards--some old guy on the lift
 
I cannot wait to see this. Yes moore is biased, but so is the news, so are our history books, and any form of media. I think that moore is brilliant, and I respect him him alot.

Dont forget your snorkle ~ Bridger Bowl
 
silly micheal moore.... i saw an interview with him on sunday morning on cbs i think... or abc... anyhow, he was being interviewed, and the interviewer confronted him about editing the film to suit his purposes... moore denied it, claiming that all the uneditied transcripts were availiabe on his web site, and yada yada yada... anyhow, the cut in question was a part where moore had gone up to capitol hill and was accosting congressmen on their way into work. they showed him asking a congressman if he had any kids in the military, and would he take some information in to his collegues to get them to enlist their kids... the interviewer (george stephenopolous i think) asked moore if he ever advantagously edited his film to appear out of context. moore denied this vehemently, but upon the conclusion of the interview, stephenopolous came on with the transcript from the rough edit, where the congressman went on to explain to moore how he had 2 nephews on their way to afganastan.... funny how that diddnt make the final edit huh?

i also liked how moore is adament about teenagers seeing this film. if theres one thing that my NS experience has tought me, most teenagers, and i do mean most, lack the ability to take in information with much discernment. they love to be fed sensationalism, and will alot of times take it as fact. i would loathe to meet a seventeen year old fresh out of F 911 in discussion for the sureity of a complete lack of reasoning ability.

moore also goes off on his little republican rant, generalizing everyone right of center as evil billionaire masterminds bent on world domination... some one has seen the 007 box set a few too many times ( i wouldnt usually think that possible, but who knows) he then throws in the non sequeters about hating pets and being named fred. i guess that is his attempt at humor, or at softening his virulent feelings to those who might take offense... heven forbid we should offend anyone... that would stand in direct violation of the liberal creedo. ( never offend, in spite of what consequences may occur, be it death, destruction, or mayhem, never,never, offend. (unless youre offending the evil right wing ( all inclusive) in which case, offend without concious.))

anyhow, that is what i think about that guy... i probably wont see his movie, for the same reason that i didnt see mean girls, and probably wont see white chicks. if i happen to be somewhere, and its on one day, ill check it, but im not anymore interested in that then a documentery on lions or baboons. it will probably have about the same ammount of bering on how i go about my daily life.

people like michael moore are a dime a dozen. im not impressed.

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
They are a dime a dozen, you're right... especially on Fox News. I realize this is off topic, but I was watching an interview witha couple of FNews affiliated people, and if you'd told me that they were in fact Republican party members, I would have believed you. There's no neutrality in the media anymore... you're on one side or you're on the other. Unless you're like Maddox, and you just hate everyone.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
maddox is awesome... but admit that michael moore is just a counter to bill o-reaily and sean hannity etc.

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

Smuggs has a good point. Julia Roberts tried eating me when i was an orphan, but i bit her toe off, so she left me alone. - misterbinz
 
hannity is the most blatently partison i think, of the tv personalities that i see on any sort of a basis... he is super overbearing, i half the time i just wish he would simmer down... by being all crazy he isnt helping the conservitive cause much... as for oreily, i must admit he is entertaining. he seems right a lot of the time, but not all the time, and when he is wrong i think he has a really hard time with it. but what can you expect... these people are in a business where its 30 per cent news, seventy per cent entertainment.

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
and thats a generous ratio

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
Heh... no kidding, I think ''utter bullshit'' should enter into that pie chart somewhere as well, along with posturing, wanton disregard for morality and inexplicable self-assuredness.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
I look forward to seeing this film for sure. And Crystal- the plane incident that you mentioned occured where I live, in Rapid City, SD. Instead of landing at the regional airport, the pilot (for reasons unknown) landed at Ellsworth Air Force Base, which is not too far away. It made me think, though- their weren't any precautions taken in regards to commercial planes coming near the base. Makes you wonder how serious national security is.

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Make turns, not war

College is for the dumb smart people.

 
holy shit thats on my birthday!

To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
 
anewmorning is my new best friend.

wow good observation! You are officaily the new ns genious. You can pick up your award after I shove it up your ass. - Phrosty

 
Ray Bradbury, author of 'Fahrenheit 451' has asked Moore repeatedly to change the title of the film. Also, the tag line of the book (The tempeture at which books burn) and the movie( the tempeture that freedom burns.) Moore has yet to change the title of his movie in disreguard for Bradbury's wishs. Bradbury hopes to settle it without litigation and like gentlemen, but Moore is hardly a gentlemen. I think it is blatently disrespectful to a great author to rip of his title for use in a contreversal, widely distributed, radical film.

Driving that Train
 
I think what people need to understand about the part about freds and being mean to pets is the audience moore is sending this email to. He isn't putting this joke in one of his movies or saying it in an interview, he's sending this email to people who are somehow affiliated with his website, and are therefore his supporters. it was a joke for people who he could relate to, and i think that most people who support him probably would find it funny. It obviously wasnt said to represent his beliefs or to be displayed to a public audience.

'im gonna vote fer bush bec he has done good things' - estaked

'There is nothing wrong with Pres. Bush.' - ScratchCobra66

'Everyday the biased scum-of-the-earth imbecile that is Bill O'Reilly never ceases to amaze me with his overall idiocy and lack of grey cells between his ears.' - trevorwoulddoit

 
so parody and trbute are wrong?

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You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage

Smuggs has a good point. Julia Roberts tried eating me when i was an orphan, but i bit her toe off, so she left me alone. - misterbinz
 
no, but when an excellent author asks you repeatedlyto change the title of your film because of the situation you do it, you do it out of respect for the man and his achivements, and yes, Bradbury could win a law suit easily.

Driving that Train
 
^Have you read the actual interview with Bradbury about it? He sounds like an idiot. I was shocked, because he's such a good writer, but he comes across like a complete asshole.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
im flattered vet...

and i posted the interview w/bradbury a while ago if anyone cares to look for it...

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
If you say that you honestly find moores stuff interesting and true, or straight forward. Please next make a shirt that says i let Micheal Moore think for me! Or slap that bumper sticker on ur peace sign filled car!

...I have Dated a girl for her brains Big, HUGE Brains!!
 
I am gonna get stickers that say that shit and put them on the cars at the theater on friday that have Kerry and Anyone but Bush stickers on them. That would be funny as shit.

Driving that Train
 
crystal, sure everyone here might be alive without the war on terror, but what about ones who have lost loved ones because of the previous lack of the war on terror

dont worry about what i can or cant do, worry about what you cant do to me
 
What about the ones dying now because they are fighting a 'War on Terror'??

Here Comes A Special Boy!

''oh my god inniak and steel both do sex changes and inniaks is fucken insane'' - ballstothewall
 
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