Drunk Driving
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13393258:pow_pow~ said:
The 200 people are the other drivers on the road/pedestrians/property damage that are possibly deaths, and the risk that increases as you drink and drive dumbass. I'm comparing the pilot of the plane putting the people at risk similar to you. Cars are a leading cause of death even without alcohol dumbass. And yeah I am pretty emotional about this. Doesn't make the issue any lesser
13393272:Sketchy3s said:
and ive said in the 15 or so times ive driven back from the station after drinking, while probably not "drunk", i have seen zero people. you cannot pretend like you know my area and what goes on. im going to have a beer before i drive home from work tomorrow just for you. ill be sure to send you a photo.
13393263:pow_pow~ said:
If you have a few drinks as you say, and you say, and I'm assuming you way around 180-190 that puts your blood concentration at between .06 and .07 this is yes below the legal limit but is on the high end of having your driving skills significantly affected.
Quoting center for alcohol and drug.
So if you have been having a few as you said quite a few times..
NMMedia
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13393136:DeebieSkeebies said:
Its because when you drive impaired you aren't just risking your own safety you're risking others. In the US the statistic is that every 20 seconds someone is killed by a drunk driver, not a drunk driver dies. The majority of deaths involving drunk driving and more than one person its the sober one that is killed with the drunk driver making it out relatively ok. Can we all just agree that driving while intoxicated is fucking stupid? Doesn't matter if you're under the "legal" limit. Have you ever worked your way up to the legal limit with a breathalyzer just to see what it actually feels like? Pretty damn impaired, in my opinion it should be much, much lower.
tl;dr - don't drive intoxicated, its stupid, selfish, and easily avoidable. Its so easy to set up a sober cab, or call a taxi, there is absolutely no fucking excuse for it.
NMMedia
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13393267:pow_pow~ said:
point is moot, people in the US start drinking soon as they hit junior high/high school. A lot of people I know had their first real drinking experience (not a sip or two at dinner, were talking binge drinking) at around 12 or 13. Just because its "legal" earlier doesn't mean you actually start doing it earlier. Also in the states you can get a permit as early as 14 years old. So by this experience logic here we have had 2 extra years of driving experience on you guys in Australia
Charlie_Kelly
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13393267:pow_pow~ said:
Dumb argument is dumb. In America our driking age is 21, sure, but I'm positive the first time the majority of U.S. citizens get drunk is well undqer that age limit. Shit 20 years ago the drinking age WAS 18. You are pretty much saying people dont consistantly drink until they turn 21, wrong. All that law is good for is keeping the majority of younger kids out of bars, it doesn't stop them from acquiring alcohol at all.
Charlie_Kelly
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13393284:Sketchy3s said:
Also wrong. I got pulled over last year and was forced (I agreed but you really don't have a choice if you dont want to go instantly to jail) to take a breathelizer. I blew a .06. I can honestly say I was shocked, I felt completely sober. So yeah, definitely disagree with this...
Charlie_Kelly
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13393339:Sketchy3s said:
I'm just pointing out that you said its ".06 and .07 this is yes below the legal limit but is on the high end of having your driving skills significantly affected." I simply said that is not true, yes I'm "drunk" driving but my skills weren't affected at all. I know that everyone handles alcohol differently but that just proves this is a false statement.
I'm not trying to take sides I just think drunk driving and driving with a buzz are totally different. One affects your motor skills and reaction, one doesn't.
plyswthsqrrls
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13393258:pow_pow~ said:
would you rally drunk? are you that good?
Charlie_Kelly
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13393352:.Hugo. said:
I disagree and you can ask the passenger who was riding with me if he thought me judgement was altered. I am 100% confident my driving ability wasn't affected. Plus, why have the .08 law if you are still going to have your judegment altered? Oh yeah thats because they probably have done testing to prove you can operate a vehicle without harm to others under that limit.
Shit if thats the argument you wanna make, anyone you drives stoned should face the same consequences as driving drunk because being high can surely affect your judgement as well.
.Hugo.
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13393359:Granite_State said:
Im just saying people who are shitfaced and drive think they are doing perfectly fine, no im not saying you were shitfaced. Even if your reaction time is impaired by tenths of a second that could affect the iutcome if an incident.
I think people that drive high should face the same consequences.
Charlie_Kelly
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13393367:.Hugo. said:
Ok good then we are on the same page. All I'm saying is that there are 1,000 different things that can impair your reaction time; alcohol, weed, a cellphone, talking to another person in the car, eating food, etc. the list goes on. Where do you draw the line?
notspoicey
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That shit ain't cool - get an uber or something (first ride is free homies). Its sad that something so preventable is such a problem.
13393392:Granite_State said:
Draw the line on all of them. You are operating a machine that when driven impaired or distractledly you can kill your self or others there's no exception. There's no excuse. If you choose to drive a vehicle and endanger yourself and others there is no way in he'll you should do it distractledly.
Huck_Norris
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13393192:pow_pow~ said:
Wow listen to this fucking asshole... Honestly that's like the stereotypical shit every single drunk bro ever said before they got behind the wheel. "Well I grew up around cars, man. I'm a way better driver than 99% of the people out there. I shouldn't even be judged on the same plane, maaaan"
lol.
steeze4days
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13393090:pow_pow~ said:
May sound a bit harsh but i hope you die before someone else does.
Fucking selfish..
arnie_grape
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13392995:pow_pow~ said:
fackin bogan
TBK_ski.co
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13393323:Granite_State said:
Well put. DUI laws in the US are poorly written. I don't understand why you can get a DUI driving responsibly over the limit, going through a DUI checkpoint. Yet could go scotch free for driving sleep deprived, being a much bigger threat to the public's safety. Another ridiculous law that most states have is zero tolerance for minors, I could understand giving them an MIP, but what difference is there between a 20 year old who blows a .05, and an adult who blows a .05.
Also the fact that cops sit a few blocks down the road from bars really bothers me. If they really cared about keeping the streets safer, they would be sitting in the parking lots giving out free breathalyzer tests.
cool_name
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13393926:TBK_ski.co said:
That is like saying if cops really wanted to stop speeding they would advertise when and where they will have speed traps, sure it will stop speeding exactly where those traps are set up, but because of the advance warning people will just speed even more everywhere else because they know they won't be caught. Compare that to having hidden speed traps, with hidden speed traps a driver never knows when or where a speed trap will be and will have to always watch his speed, verus only speeding down when he knows their is a trap.
Obviously in a perfect world have cops stationed outside every bar would be ideal, but no city can afford that level of enforcement, making a constant fear of getting caught and strict penalties a far better enforcement strategy.
TBK_ski.co
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13393988:cool_name said:
And yet they have enough cops to station down the road from practically any major bar? Ill admit, I have made really bad decisions while under the influence. I have driven, and been a passenger in cars where either the driver, or I was severely inebriated, several times to the point where we were crashing multiple times. And yet the only time I ever came close to getting a DUI was when I drove through a checkpoint. If a cop was kind, and gave me a free breathalyzer test coming out of a bar, I would gladly take a cab and worry about getting my car in the morning later. I hope "constant fear of getting caught and strict penalties" is not your viewpoint on everything in life. Laws were not meant to be here as a way to throw people in jail, and fine them. Their purpose is to protect the general public, and yet it seems they go way beyond that to the point that they are fucking the general public. I don't thing speeding is comparable, as that is deliberately reckless. All these radar ticket cameras and red light cams that have been popping up, are doing absolutely nothing to better public safety, and have even been proven to cause more rear end collisions. Its all a business, they just want to make money wherever they can. For most cops, at this point I don't even feel like they care about helping people do the right thing, everything is a trap with a fine.
killa_trees
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I live right down the street from Kyles parents, and went to the same school as the guy in the back seat for a year... Drugs in GB/Stockbridge/Monument are so fucked and I hope this serves as a wake up call for everyone.
mseward
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13393241:Granite_State said:
really interesting point and im also curious about this. honestly i used to sesh and drive alot and SO many people in my town did the same thing all the time. 100% accepted , no one ever thought twice about driving stoned or getting in a car with a stoned driver. I barely ever smoke anymore and i live in a student town so everything is within walking distance but i cant help but think how risky what everyone was doing so casually all the time actually was , i agree that your driving skills wouldn't be affected after a 1 hitter but driving after like 4 massive bong rips or poppers/ smoking a fucking huge joint on the highway to the mountain probably wasn't safe at all.
interested to hear the thoughts of ns
shocker611
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Also, just another point, .08 is significantly higher than I ever thought it was. If you blow above a .08 you should certainly not be on the road. I had somewhere in the realm of 8-10 drinks one night (it was st pattys so all Guinness and carbombs) super fast and started to walk downtown. About 15 minutes later I was bored of walking so one of my buddies called his cop buddy to come grab us. By this point I was pretty drunk, like to the point where I would be absolutely petrified to drive and would without a doubt be a danger to other people.
He ended up letting us use his breathalyzer machine before he dropped us off. I blew a .10. A FUCKING .10 while I was pretty fucking drunk. My point is, if you are blowing a .08 or above, you absolutely should not be on the road. I don't have a problem with people having a beer with dinner or grabbing a pint with some buddies, but keep it under control and make sure to give yourself time before you go drive. I've known 2 people that have killed families while drunk driving, it's just not worth it.
He ended up letting us use his breathalyzer machine before he dropped us off. I blew a .10. A FUCKING .10 while I was pretty fucking drunk. My point is, if you are blowing a .08 or above, you absolutely should not be on the road. I don't have a problem with people having a beer with dinner or grabbing a pint with some buddies, but keep it under control and make sure to give yourself time before you go drive. I've known 2 people that have killed families while drunk driving, it's just not worth it.
plyswthsqrrls
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13394138:TBK_ski.co said:
you are fucking stupid
13394324:El_Barto. said:
Yet again fails to bring up another argument but continue to spew shit through a keyboard. What I was bashing earlier was drunk driving you absolute fucking idiot. Do I bash on people who drive drunk and distractedly. Yes because I have multiple family deaths because of it. Have I eaten while driving. Yes. Did I ever say once that it wasn't bad because I did it. No. So I don't know what the hell your trying to say. For real all you just did was point out the blatantly obvious and then say it was retarded. You didn't say a single constructive thing. Quit trying to act like you know shit when in reality you are just saying things to say them because poor little you feels insecure about his own problems. And opinions? All you do is say your opinion you stupid hypocrite.
And oooh shit shut up your 17 man that hits deep
TBK_ski.co
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13394325:plyswthsqrrls said:
Do you have a real argument? I would be fascinated to hear it.