Drill baby drill
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Benedetto.
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That's fucking terrible.
People dying just doing what they do.
People dying just doing what they do.
Tasche
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Someone fucked up huge. Actually tons of people fucked up. As of right now the official word is that it was a blow out which happened when they were cementing the production string. On a big off shore operation like this there would have been at least 3 engineers monitoring the well. There are countless safety precautions taken to prevent things like this from happening. Also know that every guy out there knew the risks and should have been aware of what was going on. There are a lot of pre blowout warning signs.
That being said accidents happen, sometimes all these accidents line up and shit like this happens. It's a dangerous job, I just hope there are lessons learned. Vibes to the workers and their families.
That being said accidents happen, sometimes all these accidents line up and shit like this happens. It's a dangerous job, I just hope there are lessons learned. Vibes to the workers and their families.
Shreddysaurus
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holy balls
thenakedcellist
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shit
H8CH
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^no worries..
That BBC report is so wrong, and really irresponsible journalism, showing clips of valdez oil on shore and seals and shit.... This is no where near that. It's a small sheen that will be dispersed. It won't even reach shore. The well has stopped flowing... The diesel on board the horizon will evaporate, if not burnt in the fire.
Even at full flow rate, constantly flowing into the ocean, it would take over a month to get near to what the drunken twat on valdez spilt.
The true tradegy is loss of life, a rig like that shouldn't be taken out by a blow out in 2010. It was 24hrs away from moving off location too, not drilling.
That BBC report is so wrong, and really irresponsible journalism, showing clips of valdez oil on shore and seals and shit.... This is no where near that. It's a small sheen that will be dispersed. It won't even reach shore. The well has stopped flowing... The diesel on board the horizon will evaporate, if not burnt in the fire.
Even at full flow rate, constantly flowing into the ocean, it would take over a month to get near to what the drunken twat on valdez spilt.
The true tradegy is loss of life, a rig like that shouldn't be taken out by a blow out in 2010. It was 24hrs away from moving off location too, not drilling.
H8CH
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The well has stopped flowing apparently... But it's not natural for that to happen. You're correct about the BOP and EDS (emergency disconnect).
I imagine the stack was damaged during the blow out or failed. You can override them easily with an ROV plus all the valves are fail closed. When these happen, which is rare, the hydrocarbon can reach the speed of sound as it travels up the string and riser. The gas fraction expands so rapidly it ignites on surfacing, explosively. I suspect the well has shut itself in, but they're still going to drill a relief well to plug it. Plus I have no idea where the rig will be on the seabed, 4500 ft is a long way down.
Its a very rare situation this and I have my theories being on the inside but I can't speculate here. The tragedy is loss of life- the environmental thing is nothing compared to how it's being reported, this was exploration, not production.
To show how advanced safety and procedure is, in 1988 167 guys died on piper alpha, I was only 8 but remember it well. Here, all but the 11 guys on the drill floor were off the rig in less then 5 minutes, which is amazing as the rig was engulfed in 5 minutes.....
Kids- don't let this put you off the oil industry, I'd much rather be in it as an engineer, constantly striving to do it safer and cleaner then being an armchair critic. At least I can have an influence... Because oil isn't ever going to go away. That said, this shouldn't of happened in 2010 imo.
I imagine the stack was damaged during the blow out or failed. You can override them easily with an ROV plus all the valves are fail closed. When these happen, which is rare, the hydrocarbon can reach the speed of sound as it travels up the string and riser. The gas fraction expands so rapidly it ignites on surfacing, explosively. I suspect the well has shut itself in, but they're still going to drill a relief well to plug it. Plus I have no idea where the rig will be on the seabed, 4500 ft is a long way down.
Its a very rare situation this and I have my theories being on the inside but I can't speculate here. The tragedy is loss of life- the environmental thing is nothing compared to how it's being reported, this was exploration, not production.
To show how advanced safety and procedure is, in 1988 167 guys died on piper alpha, I was only 8 but remember it well. Here, all but the 11 guys on the drill floor were off the rig in less then 5 minutes, which is amazing as the rig was engulfed in 5 minutes.....
Kids- don't let this put you off the oil industry, I'd much rather be in it as an engineer, constantly striving to do it safer and cleaner then being an armchair critic. At least I can have an influence... Because oil isn't ever going to go away. That said, this shouldn't of happened in 2010 imo.
Benedetto.
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Journalist have to spread propaganda like that cause people watching it eat it all up as a majority. With all the green shit going on in America, that bad news makes money for those news companies and broadcast channels, magizines, newspapers, etc.
When it comes down to it, people lost thier lives.
When it comes down to it, people lost thier lives.
Benedetto.
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Sorry for double post but also, the media has to blame someone or 'investigate' what really happened.
geteducated
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damn right obama is making this a priority, since he just opened up new coasts of the united states for drilling that were closed before in the name of becoming energy independent.
Tasche
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I am sorry but you are way off base. I completely agree that the real tragedy is the loss of life, but there should be a comprehensive investigation and punishes the irresponsible and negligent people responsible. An accident like this doesn't happen unless someone, probably a lot of people, ignore warning signs and don't follow procedure.
As far as the environmental aspect is concerned you can not ignore 8k bbls a day flowing into the ocean. This has the potential to be an environmental disaster and it is important that it be contained, cleaned, and learned from. The oil industry can't afford accidents like this and its important for people in the industry to hold themselves responsible and not try to marginalize the scope of the disaster.
Of course the media is going to blow this out of proportion because they don't fully understand the situation, but the hard truth is that there a shit load of oil flowing into a delicate ecosystem.
Before you get all tough know that I am in the oil industry. I have seen countless occasions where more experienced people in the industry short cut safety in environment concerns for the sake of time. I am not saying this happened in this situation but I can pretty safely say someone fucked up.
As far as the environmental aspect is concerned you can not ignore 8k bbls a day flowing into the ocean. This has the potential to be an environmental disaster and it is important that it be contained, cleaned, and learned from. The oil industry can't afford accidents like this and its important for people in the industry to hold themselves responsible and not try to marginalize the scope of the disaster.
Of course the media is going to blow this out of proportion because they don't fully understand the situation, but the hard truth is that there a shit load of oil flowing into a delicate ecosystem.
Before you get all tough know that I am in the oil industry. I have seen countless occasions where more experienced people in the industry short cut safety in environment concerns for the sake of time. I am not saying this happened in this situation but I can pretty safely say someone fucked up.
brockerton-
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let the oil burn and pollute our pathetic "human" species. maybe when we are all dead mother earth wont have to deal with our bullshit "accidents". Christ, we are worse than the brady bunch...
Shreddysaurus
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comparing it to the exxon valdez is the propaganda
skiminnesota
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besides the fact that oil was dumped into sea water is there a comparison?
we know nothing of the facts of "why" this happened. we know that exxon Valdez was a drunk idiot at the helm (in a nutshell)
not to mention the proximity to shore of the this VS the exxon valdez.
but i havent watched the news in awhile so maybe more has been made of this than i know.
we know nothing of the facts of "why" this happened. we know that exxon Valdez was a drunk idiot at the helm (in a nutshell)
not to mention the proximity to shore of the this VS the exxon valdez.
but i havent watched the news in awhile so maybe more has been made of this than i know.
skiminnesota
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also possibly H8CH or Tasche can speak to this. because to state that i am a novice is grossly understating the issue. (along with dare i say all of NS exempt a select few)
http://geology.com/news/2007/enormous-oil-seepage-in-the-gulf-of-mexico.shtml
http://geology.com/news/2007/enormous-oil-seepage-in-the-gulf-of-mexico.shtml
Benedetto.
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And showing seals soaked in oil. Majority of the public eats that shit up. Don't even like they don't.
Benedetto.
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Sorry for dub post again but they've been drilling out there for a WHILE.
Actually, you can't speak to anything intelligently as evidenced by:
https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/537175/
https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/537175/
H8CH
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Ok i've read much of this, and i'm going to try and present as much of the facts as possible to the situation. Firstly, apologies if i came across like the environmental issue was minor and not important, of course this is not the case.
In my industry, safety and environment are the No. 1 priorities. I can promise you now, people working offshore in the Oil and Gas industry know more about environmental systems then most, and they care more. If i did something that endangered either of the above, i would never work in the industry again.
I understand they are saying that this is the worst offshore incident environmentally after exxon valdez - but this is so wrong it's not true. In the 60's, a well blew out offshore san diego and now that, was an oil spill.... look it up and that my pedigree chums is why california is against offshore exploration. However, that was so long ago in terms of technology and safety regulations that it is almost irrelevant these days.
That brings me on to the natural seepage thing. This is a fact, worldwide, more oil seeps naturally from the seabed into the ocean then is spilt through exploration. An example of this is San Diego bay .... and also, la breaer (sp) tar pits in los Angeles, that's crude oil... naturally seeping to the surface.
In San Diego bay, Oil can easily be found on the beaches in small clumps... this is from natural seepage. Yet, amazingly, people still were blaming Chevron for this... so what did they do, they went in and developed a method of capturing this.... collecting a few thousand barrels a year...extra $ easily. Environmentalists claimed this was because of Chevrons exploration activities.... wrong, it's natural.
Anyway - I digress.
Tuesday night at approximately 10pm, The Deepwater Horzion (a Transocean, deepwater drilling - NOT Production platform i.e. does not store, process or in anyway do anything with crude oil- Rig) was finishing off cementing in to place the final runs of Production Casing on the Maconda EXPLORATION well. Ok, so what this means - You have a prospect, identified by various deep earth seismic techniques etc. This reservoir, like many in the GoM is what is known as a sub-salt reservoir. I.e. it is beneath huge salt deposits... mostly these are in the Miocene.
Drilling these subsalt wells can be tricky, as passing through the salt regions, the wells can become unstable and you can lose mud pressure (Maintaining a positive hydrostatic head of pressure down the hole is essentially what prevents blowouts during drilling... i.e.Mud Pressure at depth = 25,000psig> Resevoir pressure at depth = say 20,000 psig,) to the formation.
However, in this case, all of that had been completed, they were tripping out of the well, they were in the upper regions, very close to the surface, constructing the final well head assembly (steel casing get's cemented into the hole in different arangements to allow for down hole tooling and controls etc when they come back to produce from the well. So they were not drilling anywhere near the actual sand face of the reservoir, they were the height of a commericial airliner above it.... think about that for a second.... all of this with a 5 1/2" steel tube....
what happened at precisely 10pm, is massively unknown and by the sounds of it, something very freak..... thousands of similar wells are drilled and capped like this every year, in the same region. BUT something deep downhole let rip and the reservoir pressure suddenly overcame any kind of hydrostatic head and well, there you go.
Next however is the BOP issue. Now this are fully autonomous, safety critical pieces of equipment, comprising many fast closing, high pressure valves. However, they may of only been rated to the maximum known shut in pressure of the reservoir... With a rapid excursion and upset condition such as this, the dynamic loads on the stack components could of easily exceed the rated loads and stresses the stack is designed for, imagine an 18,000 ft column of oil (density typically c.800 kg/m3) travelling at close to the speed of sound up a string.... The BOP can also be operated by the driller - there is a big red button in the dog house (drill control center) called the career changer in the industry. You hit that, you shut in the well and all equipment down it, and disconnect the rig... essentially it could float away....
This would of happen in less then a blink of an eye, and would of been so unexpected. The well is deemed as pretty stable at this point... those 11 guys would of been working on the drill floor, and would of heard an incredible noise, but before being able to even do anything, i suspect they were probably vaporised in the massive explosion. This is the really tragic part.... as much as i know everyone thinks of some kind of kind of neglect in procedure etc, the more i think about it, this could of just been a super tragic accident... but we don't know and won't know until we simply know more.
There will be a full investigation, the MMS will coordinate and all companies involved will help as best they can, because the way we do things in offshore oil, is all based on lessons learnt, what can we do better, safer, cleaner. The money and technology investment is incredible.... I love working in the oil industry... even though it's dangerous, it appeals to my adventurous, exploratory nature, like you guys, i love that, wether its running around the mountains or whatever.
I was due actually going to be on the Horizon tomorrow, as it was supposed to have moved off the location and do a job for our team. I knew most of the bp guys on it, and so it's a little close to home...
I'll keep those posted who want to know as things come out into the open.
In my industry, safety and environment are the No. 1 priorities. I can promise you now, people working offshore in the Oil and Gas industry know more about environmental systems then most, and they care more. If i did something that endangered either of the above, i would never work in the industry again.
I understand they are saying that this is the worst offshore incident environmentally after exxon valdez - but this is so wrong it's not true. In the 60's, a well blew out offshore san diego and now that, was an oil spill.... look it up and that my pedigree chums is why california is against offshore exploration. However, that was so long ago in terms of technology and safety regulations that it is almost irrelevant these days.
That brings me on to the natural seepage thing. This is a fact, worldwide, more oil seeps naturally from the seabed into the ocean then is spilt through exploration. An example of this is San Diego bay .... and also, la breaer (sp) tar pits in los Angeles, that's crude oil... naturally seeping to the surface.
In San Diego bay, Oil can easily be found on the beaches in small clumps... this is from natural seepage. Yet, amazingly, people still were blaming Chevron for this... so what did they do, they went in and developed a method of capturing this.... collecting a few thousand barrels a year...extra $ easily. Environmentalists claimed this was because of Chevrons exploration activities.... wrong, it's natural.
Anyway - I digress.
Tuesday night at approximately 10pm, The Deepwater Horzion (a Transocean, deepwater drilling - NOT Production platform i.e. does not store, process or in anyway do anything with crude oil- Rig) was finishing off cementing in to place the final runs of Production Casing on the Maconda EXPLORATION well. Ok, so what this means - You have a prospect, identified by various deep earth seismic techniques etc. This reservoir, like many in the GoM is what is known as a sub-salt reservoir. I.e. it is beneath huge salt deposits... mostly these are in the Miocene.
Drilling these subsalt wells can be tricky, as passing through the salt regions, the wells can become unstable and you can lose mud pressure (Maintaining a positive hydrostatic head of pressure down the hole is essentially what prevents blowouts during drilling... i.e.Mud Pressure at depth = 25,000psig> Resevoir pressure at depth = say 20,000 psig,) to the formation.
However, in this case, all of that had been completed, they were tripping out of the well, they were in the upper regions, very close to the surface, constructing the final well head assembly (steel casing get's cemented into the hole in different arangements to allow for down hole tooling and controls etc when they come back to produce from the well. So they were not drilling anywhere near the actual sand face of the reservoir, they were the height of a commericial airliner above it.... think about that for a second.... all of this with a 5 1/2" steel tube....
what happened at precisely 10pm, is massively unknown and by the sounds of it, something very freak..... thousands of similar wells are drilled and capped like this every year, in the same region. BUT something deep downhole let rip and the reservoir pressure suddenly overcame any kind of hydrostatic head and well, there you go.
Next however is the BOP issue. Now this are fully autonomous, safety critical pieces of equipment, comprising many fast closing, high pressure valves. However, they may of only been rated to the maximum known shut in pressure of the reservoir... With a rapid excursion and upset condition such as this, the dynamic loads on the stack components could of easily exceed the rated loads and stresses the stack is designed for, imagine an 18,000 ft column of oil (density typically c.800 kg/m3) travelling at close to the speed of sound up a string.... The BOP can also be operated by the driller - there is a big red button in the dog house (drill control center) called the career changer in the industry. You hit that, you shut in the well and all equipment down it, and disconnect the rig... essentially it could float away....
This would of happen in less then a blink of an eye, and would of been so unexpected. The well is deemed as pretty stable at this point... those 11 guys would of been working on the drill floor, and would of heard an incredible noise, but before being able to even do anything, i suspect they were probably vaporised in the massive explosion. This is the really tragic part.... as much as i know everyone thinks of some kind of kind of neglect in procedure etc, the more i think about it, this could of just been a super tragic accident... but we don't know and won't know until we simply know more.
There will be a full investigation, the MMS will coordinate and all companies involved will help as best they can, because the way we do things in offshore oil, is all based on lessons learnt, what can we do better, safer, cleaner. The money and technology investment is incredible.... I love working in the oil industry... even though it's dangerous, it appeals to my adventurous, exploratory nature, like you guys, i love that, wether its running around the mountains or whatever.
I was due actually going to be on the Horizon tomorrow, as it was supposed to have moved off the location and do a job for our team. I knew most of the bp guys on it, and so it's a little close to home...
I'll keep those posted who want to know as things come out into the open.
geteducated
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cool dude!!!! i'm not talking about that though!!!!
moron!
moron!
Benedetto.
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Is that what I said?
pmills
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ho_chi_minh
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Obama just said he wanted to open up more area to off shore drilling. change i can believe in.
VT_FLO
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FUCK FOSSIL FUELS.
sigh... Talked about this to one of my professors on friday.
188,000 Tons of Coal produces the same amount of energy as 92G of fissionable uranium.Uranium has alot of nuclear waste, but coal has even more.
Thorium is more abundant than Uranium, and the reaction can stopped, as it isn't self propellent (meaning no Chernobyl) and the Nuclear waste stays around for around 3-500 years, rather than thousands of years.
I'm pulling this out of wiki, but it's correct from what I have read around.
Thorium
Thorium, as well as uranium and plutonium, can be used as fuel in a nuclear reactor. A thorium fuel cycle offers several potential advantages over a uranium fuel cycle, including greater abundance on Earth, superior physical and nuclear properties of fuel, enhanced proliferation resistance, and reduced nuclear waste production.Although not fissile itself, 232Th will absorb slow neutrons to produce 233U, which is fissile. Hence, like 238U, it is fertile. It is at least 4-5 times more abundant in Earth's crust than allisotopes of uranium combined and is fairly evenly spread around Earth[citation needed], with many countries having large supplies of it. Also, preparation of thorium fuel does not requireisotopic separation.
CountryTonnes% of totalAustralia489,00019USA400,00015Turkey344,00013India319,00012Venezuela300,00012Brazil302,00012Norway132,0005Egypt100,0004Russia75,0003Greenland54,0002Canada44,0002South Africa18,0001Other countries33,0001World total2,610,000
sigh... Talked about this to one of my professors on friday.
188,000 Tons of Coal produces the same amount of energy as 92G of fissionable uranium.Uranium has alot of nuclear waste, but coal has even more.
Thorium is more abundant than Uranium, and the reaction can stopped, as it isn't self propellent (meaning no Chernobyl) and the Nuclear waste stays around for around 3-500 years, rather than thousands of years.
I'm pulling this out of wiki, but it's correct from what I have read around.
Thorium
Thorium, as well as uranium and plutonium, can be used as fuel in a nuclear reactor. A thorium fuel cycle offers several potential advantages over a uranium fuel cycle, including greater abundance on Earth, superior physical and nuclear properties of fuel, enhanced proliferation resistance, and reduced nuclear waste production.Although not fissile itself, 232Th will absorb slow neutrons to produce 233U, which is fissile. Hence, like 238U, it is fertile. It is at least 4-5 times more abundant in Earth's crust than allisotopes of uranium combined and is fairly evenly spread around Earth[citation needed], with many countries having large supplies of it. Also, preparation of thorium fuel does not requireisotopic separation.
CountryTonnes% of totalAustralia489,00019USA400,00015Turkey344,00013India319,00012Venezuela300,00012Brazil302,00012Norway132,0005Egypt100,0004Russia75,0003Greenland54,0002Canada44,0002South Africa18,0001Other countries33,0001World total2,610,000
geteducated
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apparently the well is leaking oil from the ocean floor.
pmills
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pmills
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I do want to thank H8HC for taking his time to write up as much as he has. It is an example of the incredible value that NS has, I doubt many of us would have access to a report as close to the source as his if it weren't for this site. I really appreciate all the time it took to write up what you did, and the passion for your job.
That said, I will call you out on one thing, and share my frustrations related to your efforts.
You said that the number one priority amongst your co-workers is the care for the environment. I know you're not going to appreciate the 'arm chair quarterback' criticism i'm about to make, but to me it seems pretty obvious that your statement isn't the case. I base my claim off the premise that what drives most people is money -- people aren't getting into the oil business to benefit the environment rather they're working there to make money.
Now this isn't to say you can't care about the environment in the oil business, however, your interest in protecting the environment only stands insofar as you're protecting your source of income. Put another way, by caring about the environment you're providing a justification for continuing our dependence on oil.
I say this only to share with you how I read your bias.
That said, there is no doubt in my mind that you and your co-workers can have a true dedication to the environment. As you said you have all studied it extensively, and know far more about what you're getting into than the general public. (However I think that this necessarily comes with any line of work, and isn't something especially laudable.)
I can see how how you could care about the environment before getting a job at BP -- and think that by placing yourself on the job, you'll be in place to protect the environment, thus circumventing my claims of profit driven coercion. And this leads me to my frustration: if you really do care about the environment, why are you and all your coworkers wasting your valuable resources of knowledge and ideas, in an industry that is inherently dangerous to the environment through and through?
Everything you know about could be put to use to bring us much more sustainable sources of energy that have significantly lower risks to the environment -- throughout their use cycle.
I hope you don't think that i'm just mindlessly criticizing you, and that if I care so much about the environment why don't I make the effort to follow through with what i'm asking for. I obviously reap the benefits of oil production and it so easy for me to take everything for granted. BUT, I am honestly willing to shift my needs and my demands to accommodate a new energy source. I am stuck waiting for those with the minds to provide me those options.
That said, I will call you out on one thing, and share my frustrations related to your efforts.
You said that the number one priority amongst your co-workers is the care for the environment. I know you're not going to appreciate the 'arm chair quarterback' criticism i'm about to make, but to me it seems pretty obvious that your statement isn't the case. I base my claim off the premise that what drives most people is money -- people aren't getting into the oil business to benefit the environment rather they're working there to make money.
Now this isn't to say you can't care about the environment in the oil business, however, your interest in protecting the environment only stands insofar as you're protecting your source of income. Put another way, by caring about the environment you're providing a justification for continuing our dependence on oil.
I say this only to share with you how I read your bias.
That said, there is no doubt in my mind that you and your co-workers can have a true dedication to the environment. As you said you have all studied it extensively, and know far more about what you're getting into than the general public. (However I think that this necessarily comes with any line of work, and isn't something especially laudable.)
I can see how how you could care about the environment before getting a job at BP -- and think that by placing yourself on the job, you'll be in place to protect the environment, thus circumventing my claims of profit driven coercion. And this leads me to my frustration: if you really do care about the environment, why are you and all your coworkers wasting your valuable resources of knowledge and ideas, in an industry that is inherently dangerous to the environment through and through?
Everything you know about could be put to use to bring us much more sustainable sources of energy that have significantly lower risks to the environment -- throughout their use cycle.
I hope you don't think that i'm just mindlessly criticizing you, and that if I care so much about the environment why don't I make the effort to follow through with what i'm asking for. I obviously reap the benefits of oil production and it so easy for me to take everything for granted. BUT, I am honestly willing to shift my needs and my demands to accommodate a new energy source. I am stuck waiting for those with the minds to provide me those options.
feihlination
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if you think about it, exploiting the earth in such a way, like drilling holes 4500 ft under sea level, it seems so surreal. like in every movie with an pocahontas/avatar like story. or the story of FF7, its almost too stereotypical.
i just wish that renewable ressources were better developed as of now. but the availability of cheap oil over the past century destroyed all research possibilities.
it just doesnt feel "right" to exploit these resources. who owns them? and if you own them, do you have the right to use them?
i just wish that renewable ressources were better developed as of now. but the availability of cheap oil over the past century destroyed all research possibilities.
it just doesnt feel "right" to exploit these resources. who owns them? and if you own them, do you have the right to use them?
feihlination
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yeah, its the same with the resources under the arctic icecap and pretty much every offshore (international waters) thing.
but what i wanted to say is that the plain fact that a resource is on a countries "property" doesnt necessarily lead to a justification for actually exploiting it. who says that "we" can use things that took millions and millions of years to be produced by a global, living system.
but what i wanted to say is that the plain fact that a resource is on a countries "property" doesnt necessarily lead to a justification for actually exploiting it. who says that "we" can use things that took millions and millions of years to be produced by a global, living system.
H8CH
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To P-Face,
Not at all man- I really appreciate the feedback.
It's really difficult, and I totally understand where you are coming from. This weekend I learned more of the situation from a friend who is heading up the operation to shut in the well- and I stand corrected on the above, the situation is really bad on the seafloor.
They're working around the clock, but this is a total fuck up. The coast gaurd originally said the well had shut itself In, which I immediately thought was strange, but the coast gaurd said that, not bp. Bp are being very honest, it's a real bad situation. Currently it's at 42k a day, which is being reported now.
One of the things in our favour is the water depth, and it's cold down there, which really helps the oil clump and sit on the ocean floor where it will naturally break down, keeping it off coasts. As long as it stays offshore in deepwater, the less disastrous the situation will be.
If you think this situation is bad/serious- then take that perception and multiply it by 10. It's a shit show, and there are going to be huge implications. Now the priority is isolating the well, and they have the rig on location pretty much ready to drill and plug it asap. But that in itself is a really difficult task.
Oil exploration is so much safer and cleaner then it was, but what drives it? Demand. The keyboards you are typing on, the chairs you are sitting on, the rooms you are in... All consume oil to make in huge qtys. The future for fuel is natural gas, it's clean and abundant and efficient, but oil is always going to be in demand. It's the most powerful commodity on earth. I agree with you, when shit goes wrong, it really goes wrong. I know it's really hard to get your head round when shit like this happens, and I feel the same way, it's tragic and such a shame.
I will try and keep you posted with the facts. I in know way want to appear biased, I will present only what I know. If you have any specific q's, pm me. I can't really speculate on here. But I'd like to think I was a more transparent and honest source then the media!
Anyway, NSers rocks... So I'll do what I can from where I am.
Not at all man- I really appreciate the feedback.
It's really difficult, and I totally understand where you are coming from. This weekend I learned more of the situation from a friend who is heading up the operation to shut in the well- and I stand corrected on the above, the situation is really bad on the seafloor.
They're working around the clock, but this is a total fuck up. The coast gaurd originally said the well had shut itself In, which I immediately thought was strange, but the coast gaurd said that, not bp. Bp are being very honest, it's a real bad situation. Currently it's at 42k a day, which is being reported now.
One of the things in our favour is the water depth, and it's cold down there, which really helps the oil clump and sit on the ocean floor where it will naturally break down, keeping it off coasts. As long as it stays offshore in deepwater, the less disastrous the situation will be.
If you think this situation is bad/serious- then take that perception and multiply it by 10. It's a shit show, and there are going to be huge implications. Now the priority is isolating the well, and they have the rig on location pretty much ready to drill and plug it asap. But that in itself is a really difficult task.
Oil exploration is so much safer and cleaner then it was, but what drives it? Demand. The keyboards you are typing on, the chairs you are sitting on, the rooms you are in... All consume oil to make in huge qtys. The future for fuel is natural gas, it's clean and abundant and efficient, but oil is always going to be in demand. It's the most powerful commodity on earth. I agree with you, when shit goes wrong, it really goes wrong. I know it's really hard to get your head round when shit like this happens, and I feel the same way, it's tragic and such a shame.
I will try and keep you posted with the facts. I in know way want to appear biased, I will present only what I know. If you have any specific q's, pm me. I can't really speculate on here. But I'd like to think I was a more transparent and honest source then the media!
Anyway, NSers rocks... So I'll do what I can from where I am.