Does the Strive stack up against STH2?

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I can read the specs, and they look really similar. but I’m curious if anyone, especially die-hard STH guys, have tried the new(er) Strives and if they stack up.

deciding between the Strive 16 MN and the STH2 MN. Been an STH and pivot kid since young but need MNC because my boots are whack.

both have comparable elasticity which I like. Curious about the lower profile of the strives. Durability is huge because I am going to kill them so hard.
 
Hard to determine durability on such a new product. If durability is your #1 concern, best to go with the tried and true product. Very few bindings have been as durable as the high din STH.
 
topic:Benchhitter said:
I can read the specs, and they look really similar. but I’m curious if anyone, especially die-hard STH guys, have tried the new(er) Strives and if they stack up.

deciding between the Strive 16 MN and the STH2 MN. Been an STH and pivot kid since young but need MNC because my boots are whack.

both have comparable elasticity which I like. Curious about the lower profile of the strives. Durability is huge because I am going to kill them so hard.
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I have all three mentioned. The strives are at this point on par with the sth2 durability wise. They share the sense exact heel. So the only difference is the toe.

for me personally the strive toe is better for the simple fact the wings don’t need to be adjusted like the sth2 wings. You do still have the toe height adjustment on the MN. The big fault of the sth2 was the adjustable wings. If they are not adjusted perfect you get pre release. Which was a common issue

I nailed one of the toes into a low branch while skiing trees. Took a bunch of wood with it but zero damage to the binding.

with the new auto wings for me they removed the cons of the sth2 while keeping the pros which was the heel.

if you skied the sth2 you will get along fine with the strive. Skiing they feel exactly the same. The new strive toe is an upgrade

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What's with the goofy looking hinge on the strives. Poked at a few and can't figure out what it's for. Some kind of touring upgrade down the line? Far fetched theory.

14592539:PartyBullshiit said:
I have all three mentioned. The strives are at this point on par with the sth2 durability wise. They share the sense exact heel. So the only difference is the toe.

for me personally the strive toe is better for the simple fact the wings don’t need to be adjusted like the sth2 wings. You do still have the toe height adjustment on the MN. The big fault of the sth2 was the adjustable wings. If they are not adjusted perfect you get pre release. Which was a common issue

I nailed one of the toes into a low branch while skiing trees. Took a bunch of wood with it but zero damage to the binding.

with the new auto wings for me they removed the cons of the sth2 while keeping the pros which was the heel.

if you skied the sth2 you will get along fine with the strive. Skiing they feel exactly the same. The new strive toe is an upgrade

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14592733:BallClapper said:
What's with the goofy looking hinge on the strives. Poked at a few and can't figure out what it's for. Some kind of touring upgrade down the line? Far fetched theory.
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What hinge?
 
14592776:BallClapper said:
The funny looking thing on the toe.

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Ahhh. It’s a little pin that allows the toe to move up and down on the MN models. You turn the screw on top which allows the wing area to go up or down to account for different sole heights on boots.

you posted the GW version so it doesn’t have the screw. You can see it here on the MN versions.

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Oooh! So it's less janky than the sth? That always tripped me out.

14592781:PartyBullshiit said:
Ahhh. It’s a little pin that allows the toe to move up and down on the MN models. You turn the screw on top which allows the wing area to go up or down to account for different sole heights on boots.

you posted the GW version so it doesn’t have the screw. You can see it here on the MN versions.

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14592785:BallClapper said:
Oooh! So it's less janky than the sth? That always tripped me out.
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They removed the wing arm adjusters which were a huge problem in the sth2 toes. They would often come loose and allow slop in the boot. Which is why so many people complained about pre release on the sht2 toes. They kept the heel on the 16 but dropped the toes.

strive toes are an upgrade for sure
 
14593177:iDontHitRails said:
Strives have been having a bunch of problems with pre-releases
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Where are you hearing this? You’re literally the first person I’ve heard mention pre release on strives.

most major brands are using strives on demos now without any issues. I’ve had zero pre release issues on my set.
 
14593184:PartyBullshiit said:
Where are you hearing this? You’re literally the first person I’ve heard mention pre release on strives.

most major brands are using strives on demos now without any issues. I’ve had zero pre release issues on my set.
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I have several friends that have been skiing them this season and ski them at the same din as their pivots and pre-release very frequently
 
14593208:iDontHitRails said:
I have several friends that have been skiing them this season and ski them at the same din as their pivots and pre-release very frequently
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check their forward pressure on strives. and dont crank to forward pressure too high just because they're pre releasing, it makes it worse.

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14593227:scratchskier321 said:
check their forward pressure on strives. and dont crank to forward pressure too high just because they're pre releasing, it makes it worse.

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Yes I am aware of forward pressure. This is not a forward pressure issue
 
14593245:iDontHitRails said:
Yes I am aware of forward pressure. This is not a forward pressure issue
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i didn't question your ability to know what it is, i meant check it.

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14593245:iDontHitRails said:
Yes I am aware of forward pressure. This is not a forward pressure issue
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His point is probably set strives won’t pre release. I’ve had issues on my sth2 when tbr wings weren’t set correctly. Strives don’t have that issue as they removed that wing setting.
 
14593257:PartyBullshiit said:
His point is probably set strives won’t pre release. I’ve had issues on my sth2 when tbr wings weren’t set correctly. Strives don’t have that issue as they removed that wing setting.
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correct, worth checking at least.
 
i found the strive 14 to be one of the best bindings around

but i still think the sth is better, i had to clean my boot more to step into the strive

overall i would rate bindings

1.tyrolia/fischer r16 (world cup binding with lower din + not designed for race plate and brakes for wider skis

2.sth

3.strive
 
14593425:jps2.0 said:
i found the strive 14 to be one of the best bindings around

but i still think the sth is better, i had to clean my boot more to step into the strive

overall i would rate bindings

1.tyrolia/fischer r16 (world cup binding with lower din + not designed for race plate and brakes for wider skis

2.sth

3.strive
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Strive 16 shares the heel with the sth2 so exact same step in.

14 has a new unique to heel.
 
14593430:PartyBullshiit said:
Strive 16 shares the heel with the sth2 so exact same step in.

14 has a new unique to heel.
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yeah step in is the same but the strive toe doesn't shred snow out of the toe the same way as the sth
 
I've heard it does. I'm just a stubborn asshole who likes to talk shit, but some companies are running them as their demo bindings at least, it's worth something. I know the heel is the same as the STH.

I'm just too loyal to that toepiece and it fits my style of aggressive skiing for work and play. My STH's on my current work ski are almost 8 years old w/ WTR soles and still work really well. I'm planning on re-mounting a set of Woodsman 108s with them to see how they rip.

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I ended up ordering STH 16s partly because I’m still comfortably skiing on a pair of STH14 driver’s from 10 years ago and you can’t really go wrong with that level of peace of mind and comfort. As Gaywolf is saying those things can last like a decade of daily skiing. I’m sure strives are fine tho
 
It looks like a shift so I already have a deep rooted hate for this binding. never rode it but don't care, most Salomon bindings suck anyway, except for the STH of course.

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