Does the CAST touring system make a huge difference?

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shred14

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Hey NS, I’m currently looking to purchase the CAST system and I’m curious about one aspect... how much heavier is it on the ski? Is it noticeable or doesn’t really have an affect. I really want to have a ski that I can still spin super comfortably on and have rails locked without a large amount of effort. I will most likely pair these with a set of ON3P Jeffery’s or Kartel’s (if I can find a pair). Otherwise I’m not quite sure what ski but regardless how much does it affect the ski and do you notice it?
 
looks pretty light but I don't know jack shit about AT skiing so there's that.

they add a coefficient of lego star wars squared to the overall dragon-like qualities of your whittling skilz
 
It's like skiiing a pivot15/18

the brake locking thingy and risers is just a few grams, and tiny, cant feel it at all.
 
I guess this is a two part answer. The actual CAST system really doesn’t add much weight. There are three main parts, the pedestal which replaces the existing Look pedestal, so that is basically a wash. The climbing bails which don’t weigh much and the tech toes which are aluminum and only used on the way up.

The real weight is in the actual Look binding. You have to use P15/18s which are all metal and are heavy compared to other bindings. But are bomber on the way down.

So to answer your question, no I don’t think that CAST adds any significant weight to the overall setup
 
How much are you going to tour/how far?

The CAST system rocks (I own it for 2 skis) but if you're doing thousands of feet, multiple days in a row, with a bunch of transitions, you're better off going for a dedicated AT setup.

If you're maybe touring once or twice a year/very short jaunts, the Daymakers may be a better option as they're cheaper.

However, if you're going a couple times a year, a few thousand vertical feet each time, they'll be perfect for what you want.

The weight added is negligible for freeskiing as all you're really adding is a few grams for the new pivot toe pedestal, baseplate, and heel risers.
 
14256964:.MASSHOLE. said:
How much are you going to tour/how far?

The CAST system rocks (I own it for 2 skis) but if you're doing thousands of feet, multiple days in a row, with a bunch of transitions, you're better off going for a dedicated AT setup.

If you're maybe touring once or twice a year/very short jaunts, the Daymakers may be a better option as they're cheaper.

However, if you're going a couple times a year, a few thousand vertical feet each time, they'll be perfect for what you want.

The weight added is negligible for freeskiing as all you're really adding is a few grams for the new pivot toe pedestal, baseplate, and heel risers.
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I’ll be going occasionally, 2-3 times a month and doing quite a bit of accending but I also need a solid setup for inbounds which is why I think this is the best route. Thanks for the reply!
 
14256970:Lazylightning said:
OP I put a cast system on some Kartel 108s, and between riding p12s to p15s w/ the risers and brakelock I noticed no difference at all....I think the weight of the binding is only marginally (few hundred grams) more with the cast

edit: OP I notice what I ate for breakfast more than the weight the cast system adds lmao

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14257036:shred14 said:
I’ll be going occasionally, 2-3 times a month and doing quite a bit of accending but I also need a solid setup for inbounds which is why I think this is the best route. Thanks for the reply!
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You won't notice any difference from stock Pivots inbound
 
I don't really notice any weight difference and I'm usually pretty in tune with subtle changes to my equipment. I've got J108s mounted up with Pivot 15s and J110s with FKS 185 + CAST, and I can ski the two back to back and not notice any tangible difference in weight. Like you, I wanted a setup I could ski at the resort most of the time, and not have to buy a dedicated setup just for the < 10 times a year I have the opportunity for touring. The CAST setup has been exactly what I was hoping for. The Shift would probably fill the same role just fine, but I've got pivots on all my skis, and the J110s that were going to be my touring rig already had holes/rescue inserts in them for pivots so it didn't make sense to me to swiss cheese them up anymore just to try a different binding. Completely unrelated though, why do you want to slide rails on a setup you're going to be touring with?
 
14262118:Justo8484 said:
I don't really notice any weight difference and I'm usually pretty in tune with subtle changes to my equipment. I've got J108s mounted up with Pivot 15s and J110s with FKS 185 + CAST, and I can ski the two back to back and not notice any tangible difference in weight. Like you, I wanted a setup I could ski at the resort most of the time, and not have to buy a dedicated setup just for the < 10 times a year I have the opportunity for touring. The CAST setup has been exactly what I was hoping for. The Shift would probably fill the same role just fine, but I've got pivots on all my skis, and the J110s that were going to be my touring rig already had holes/rescue inserts in them for pivots so it didn't make sense to me to swiss cheese them up anymore just to try a different binding. Completely unrelated though, why do you want to slide rails on a setup you're going to be touring with?
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Thanks for the reply. I currently don’t have the money to purchase 2 setups so to have one that I can both lap the park in the spring or during the day but still be able to tour and ski around the resort would be great. It isn’t ideal but for the upcoming season that’ll be the case.

**This post was edited on Mar 19th 2021 at 2:19:28pm
 
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