14218175:B.Gillis said:
[tag=195164]@Park.[/tag]
Cry me a river dude, I’m pretty aware of the good, the bad and the ugly within the industry. I’m just not gonna sugar coat shit because entitled babies want the world given to them. You want to sit down and have a real conversation about how to fix the industry then I’m all ears. But to come out and say that Vail treats everyone like shit and is full of scumbags couldn’t be any more ignorant.
I’m not retarded I’m well aware that taking shots at the most popular member on this site will give me black eye but I really don’t give a shit. At the end of the day homeboy posts the same non coherent rant in every vail related thread and it’s tiring when it’s all personal problem nonsense. Dude can call me whatever name he wants but he and I both know that I’ve gone out of my way to help him on more than one occasion during his time at Northstar.
**This post was edited on Dec 27th 2020 at 1:47:20am
I mean i googled "newschoolers fuck vail" and unsurprisingly i have posted near the beginnings of all the first threads caling out the Vail haters. Not necessarily the vail hate but the people that went "omg corporate bad". Mentioning that some small ski areas are super sketchy. Hell aspen ski go is corporate af but they treat their employees decently.
How much did you go out of your way to help me? Giving me info about when we could pick up paychecks when corona shut things down? I was stoked for that and i told you i appreciated it. Otherwise we chatted about rent prices and areas a bit a few years back. You've sent me a job or two you saw. Again I appreciate it. But idk how you're going to try to hold that over my head as if I owe you something. Outside of that I'm pretty sure our paths never crossed in my 3 years at Northstar.
I try and help people out on hear all the time.
But yeah, i talked about this in pretty much every thread going back a year or 2 plus I was calling out people for hating vail for dumb reasons. Hell the parking thing was pretty recent and I was calling them out.
As far as it being all personal problems, i hear the same issues throughout the department/other department, other mountains. I mentioned it's great you got a promotion and are making money. I was honestly happy for you/maybe still am even though you've been an asshole about it. And as far as calling you names I think that's all I ever said was "dude you're an asshole". And not in a malicious way but just the calling it how it seems.
You think everyone who works hard will get rewarded by vail. And anyone who had had issues, even completely legitimate, is just a lazy complaining douche. It's a really dope viewpoint.
I have plenty of issues. That's probably why I'm so passionate about the ski industry and other things. Sure I bitch about stupid shit in the rant thread and others. Sometimes stuff I don't even really care about, but it makes me feel better.
Maybe my posts are all over the place, but I don't see why that matters in terms of my point.
I'm a weird dude with mad social issues that really cares about my job and the ski industry. I follow pretty much every terrain park that exists on insta and facebook. Nerd out on the pics posted here. Read threads about stuff, talk to friends and people at work. Try and see what features work, what doesnt, new ideas, how different mtns are making the terrain they have work to their advantage.
Idk man. Maybe it's some weird shit where you've identified with vail to the point where somebody saying anything bad about vail feels like a personal attack. Because it obviously isn't that my issues werent legitimate.
I don't really get it. If you really believe that everyone who works hard in vail moves up, vail pays workers fairly and anyone getting paid little is a shitty worker and anyone who complains about anything is just lazy and jaded. Fuck dude. I don't even know what to say. Delusional comes to mind.
And I'm sure in your mind a bunch of these positions are beneath you and full of lazy uninspired people but terrain parks wouldn't be a thing without snowmaking, parks, grooming. So that my be worth thinking of not that you seem to care.
Maybe you can use me as an example of how shitty the common folk is the next time you're at a vail leadership event. Damn peasants just complain. I mean why wouldn't anyone be stoked to work for Vail getting paid less than every mountain around, struggling to eat and pay rent, trying to stay passionate, and then getting shit on by people like you who got a promotion and think they're hot shit.
And once again, you menioned "well why don't you leave" I did.
I've honestly never butted heads like this with anybody on the site. Maybe fucking around years ago trolling. But I've also never run into a person so willing to shit on people trying to make it work. And both stay stoked on the industry, whike spreading the stoke.
At places where cats broke down and we dragged rails up by hand or with snowmobiles and spent all night setting them, maybe didnt even get paid. Watching some kid hit his first dfd or get a front 2 out of that rail is worth it every time.
I've gotten boned by some mountains I've worked for some awesome mountains. At the end of the day I'm still in the industry for the same reasons. Maybe a little older and saltier, but this many years in I'm still down to do whatever i can to get the park riding sick.
Hopefully after I build my skills more I'll find the right job and go back to the small mtn vibes that I worked in back east. Take over the parks somewhere, weld a fuck ton of features, and get to put in the time in my zen garden making things fun to ride.
Go get your promotion. Be a manager of whatever. Call out the peasants. You do you. Bullshit from the industry and people like you still hasn't made me want to leave it all behind.
There's still a magic to the perfectly sporked feature, the right setup, getting a trail that wasn't being groomed rebuilt or just fixed up. Even if i don't even ride it. Even if nobody ever stops and thinks"wow somebody but some effort into this" it doesn't matter.
It never was for anything but the love of the sport. Good luck with whatever man. Assuming you won't even read this, and don't really care if anyone does. Just saying things about stuff.
