there also not dessigned to fit like other skis, there are about 1,000 other threads on this, they are made to fit and ride like a snowboard. becuase there so wide thou its about the same ski area as a 180 ski
He is about 5'8" and actually does ski on a pair of "stock" Elizabeths in a 172cm with the Sir Francis Bacon graphic on it w/S916 bindings. I skied with him last week.