Do you guys dull your edges underboot?

Rippy087

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I've been hanging out in the park lately, I can spin 3's now but I have never hit rails before. Do you guys dull your edges under your boots. I'm just worried that If I get my edges done before the season they will be too sharp on rails, or is that something I don't need to worry about?

Thanks,

Jake
 
no man, if you slide rails, the rails will dull your edges fast enough anyway. enjoy your edges while you have them.
 
idk... you can get pretty wrecked w/ a brand new pair of skis on rails. It's probably a good idea to dull them a little bit (just right under ur boot) before you start to jump on rails/boxes.

 
i usually dull them with a file, you can do it by just grinding for a couple days, just dont hit any down rails or anything urban until theyre dull
 
if im going to hit a bunch of rails, ill file down the edges nice and round underfoot (for maybe a foot or so in length). Keeps the friction down a bit, and there is less material, so the edges seem to last longer and catch less.
 
I only detune new skis most of the time, other than that I try to keep them as sharp as possible.
 
i dont dull mine i just ride rails until there dull when i get new ones...when doing down rails im on =my back edges anyways so it doesnt catch much
 
Before I ski park skis, I de-tune from a few inches in front of the toe of my boot to a few inches behind my heel... and then like three inches of the effective edge at the very tip and tail
 
it's usally best to de-tune them as much as you can but even if your edges are detuned you can still catch, it usually takes a little box/rail sliding to do the trick...
 
if you want performance out of the park, set your edge bevel underfoot to 2.5-3.0 degrees. this way you can still keep a sharp edge and not worry about hanging up on rails.

my tweaks have a 1degree along the whole ski and then 3 degrees underfoot. if you look at snowboards, most freestyle boards come with a 2.5 degree bevel along the whole board

 
I detune tip to tail.

If you live in a place with lots of natural soft snow you dont need edges so much if you're not a super gs carvy kinda guy. besides, factory tuned edges can slice you to pieces.

I basically detune binding to binding extra hard... then you dont get caught up on a rail, but more importantly you dont crack your edges and have blowouts. I guess you still can, but it is alot harder.
 
Take your ski and bash it on a rock, or just use a rail untill they arent sharp anymore. Soon as a get a new pair of skis i take them and smash the fuck out of the edges. If your going to be in the park and hitting rails you need to dull your edges.
 
Exactly.. I use a sharpening stone. I really wouldn't recommend using a file... you'll take off an unnecessary amount of material.

Tip and tail is KEY.. I found that out the hard way.
 
I generally detune my edges underfoot, and extend it a few inches behind the heel and in front of the toe. With urban skis, I generally completely dull them- my edges are basically round underfoot on urbans and fairly round everywhere else.
 
nah if u never hit one in ur life before than u prob have nothing to worry about really....also i never detune my edges casue i actualy ski the mtn and i never caught my edge on a rail from them so ur call man
 
on my snowboard i basically detune the whole effective edge, i dull them pretty well, good enough to still have some edge for groomers before the park opens up so they wil be really dull for the park. my edge isnt much of an adge its like a fucking round corner? haha
 
i absolutely dull my edges because it really sucks for the first couple days/weeks when you just always stick and can't slide anything...but have to to dull them. its just a lot faster and easier
 
I dont...the chance of catching an edge is deff over played...its not that easy but it can happen...id say leave em they will dull as u slide
 
i havent caught one yet, even my first year on rails, when i didnt have twin tips, just race skis

i guess i just dont slide the way that im gonna catch an edge
 
some should post a picture of this file they use, the one im picturing cant be good for the skis. its not the right one, but i dont have any other picture in my mind.
 
I tried detuning my edges when I bought my skis and it made rails so shitty and inconsistant. Unless your a pro at detuning and sharpening, let the rails do the work. You get sticky on 5 rail slides and then it becoems natural again and all well. 
 
I detune everything a little bit. I grind burrs down on park skis, and keep them pretty detuned. I keep my pow skis pretty detuned too. But its not for everyone, and you have to know how to actually ski to be able to ski right without sharp edges. I used to race too, and I really like detuned edges for everything. Though a nice tune is always nice for some race skis.
 
after i had gotten a tune up, i had to detune my edges, they were way too grippy..but thats only happened once.
 
I don't detune my skis really. The first day on them I'll rub the edges on the rail a little bit, just run it up and down. That way you don't detune them way too much with a file but you still don't catch.
 
one like this, very sparingly:

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then one like this to get rid of burrs

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Obviously, rails can crack an edge, but does tuning/detuning a ski make

a difference as to how likely it is? I'm just wondering. Because like,

if your edge catches, you lose forward movement (down the rail) and

more energy transfers straight downwards towards the rail right? And if

your edge is detuned, more of the energy is transferred forward along

the rail as you move... Or does this not work?
 
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