Dislocated Shoulders

Gooskin

Gooskin

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I just started doing hand drag tricks this year - but I don't really ski park. I started doing butters in pow with my hands on the ground, and some hand drag 3's off small cliffs. I never dislocated my shoulder skiing until this year, but then I did it twice in the span of a month - the first time with a hand drag butter and the second time from a hand drag 3 off a jump. Especially with how popular it is becoming to do a lot of tricks involving your hands in the park (like the bunch/vishnu style), how common is it for you guys to dislocate your shoulder while skiing? Does it even bother you anymore?

I'm worried if I keep doing these things and keep skiing like that (which I love), my shoulder will keep popping out...any thoughts?
 
Yeah I had shoulder problems last year, ignored it for awhile until I would dislocate it doing normal daily chores and such. Had surgery, and after a bunch of physical therapy I am good as new. I would go see a doctor, generally speaking shoulder injuries don't really heal themselves.
 
OP I HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS. I tried hand drags for the first time on snowflex with grippy gloves (and probably terrible technique) and yanked my left one out.

I haven't dislocated a shoulder in a while, but let that thing heal up REALLY GOOD and do PT. Trust me, not letting it heal correctly will hurt you in the long run. It seems like you just ski with your legs, but try to ski down a hill with a moderately or freshly injured shoulder and you'll realize it's a litttttle more important than ya thought.

Anyways, after it heals properly, you should be alright. I developed impingements in my shoulders but don't really have any problems skiing. For reference on hand related tricks, I've been able to learn hand plants and only once(on a stupidly pathetic attempt) did my shoulder bother me. So hopefully when you get back into your thing you'll be good too!!
 
You should make an appointment with a shoulder specialist. It's not normal for them to dislocate that much and most likely won't heal on it's own. It's possible you damaged something when you popped it back in that's causing it to pop out easier.
 
I broke my collarbone 2 seasons ago, and it didnt quite heal up correctly. Ended up being being really annoying for a while and then I let it heal for a while after the season ended. It never bothered me until I started skiing and dislocated my same shoulder. It would sometimes redisolcate and never healed itself, and generally it won't heal itself unless you do PT or even surgery. Haven't had it pop since I did a little PT work
 
What others have said. If it's coming out without a serious crash you likely need surgery. My started from ragdoll dislocations, eventually it just failed completely.
 
Aww man let me tell you a thing about shoulders. If you've dislocated it fully you likely need surgery. If you have subluxed it, you may luck out with some physical therapy. (Subluxation is a partial dislocation in which your shoulder dislocates and then relocates on its own.) The shoulder is an inherently unstable body linkage due to the range of motion it allows. Unlike your hip , the ball of the humerus (upper/main arm bone) is not surrounded by very much bone. The ball sits in the relatively open glenoid cavity and is then held stable in place by surrounding fibrous cartilage. You most likely tore your labrum: the fibrocartilage that sits around the rim of this socket. Other damage is definitely possible too. Regardless, without a repair, you will almost certainly have more dislocations in the future. Check with friends, family, or search google and see who the best orthopedic shoulder specialists are in your area. Get it checked out (you'll probably have to get an MRI) and get it fixed so you can enjoy your life without fear of a debilitating injury that can put you in VERY sketchy situations or at best ruin your day.

Long story short. IT SUCKS and you should get surgery. I just had my second shoulder repair 2 weeks ago and I'm still in my sling. I'm a whitewater kayaker and the sport has not been kind to my shoulders.
 
13815019:TheTropics said:
Aww man let me tell you a thing about shoulders. If you've dislocated it fully you likely need surgery. If you have subluxed it, you may luck out with some physical therapy. (Subluxation is a partial dislocation in which your shoulder dislocates and then relocates on its own.) The shoulder is an inherently unstable body linkage due to the range of motion it allows. Unlike your hip , the ball of the humerus (upper/main arm bone) is not surrounded by very much bone. The ball sits in the relatively open glenoid cavity and is then held stable in place by surrounding fibrous cartilage. You most likely tore your labrum: the fibrocartilage that sits around the rim of this socket. Other damage is definitely possible too. Regardless, without a repair, you will almost certainly have more dislocations in the future. Check with friends, family, or search google and see who the best orthopedic shoulder specialists are in your area. Get it checked out (you'll probably have to get an MRI) and get it fixed so you can enjoy your life without fear of a debilitating injury that can put you in VERY sketchy situations or at best ruin your day.

Long story short. IT SUCKS and you should get surgery. I just had my second shoulder repair 2 weeks ago and I'm still in my sling. I'm a whitewater kayaker and the sport has not been kind to my shoulders.
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Had surgery after popping mine out the first time... then I popped it out two more times. Surgery works for most but my specialist pretty much said the ligaments in there are just naturally too loose and a major rebuild to stop it from coming out again would be extremely expensive (about 8x as much as the recon I'd already had). That said though, get surgery if you can. For most it's very beneficial and will help in the long run and will help stop you from doing damage in subsequent dislocations (this is where I'm benefiting from it).

Dislocations can be ridiculously painful and you don't want to have one where you can't get help easily. On my second one I was in so much pain that I nearly passed out and could hardly breathe because having my back muscles across the top and near my shoulder flexing hurt so much... I can't imagine being stuck somewhere on the mountain in the cold without access to help. I'd have certainly been fucked if I was in the same state as my second dislocation.
 
Had heaps of shoulder problems from a rugby career (sublaxions resulting in torn labrums in both shoulders) which resulted in both being operated on.

They've come out three times skiing over the last year (3, misty 5 and overrotated backie) and started getting back into my PT coz I'm getting bored of having to put my shoulder back in on the hill.

Get it sorted and don't slack on your PT, it's boring af but worth the time to keep em in place on the hill. I really wanna learn handplants but the one that's come out is my natural side to try it on so haven't been able to yet and it makes me sad.

Heal up fast boss and get yourself fixed.
 
i broke my collarbone this year, but just skied after a month and didn't fall on it so it healed fine. dislocations happen easier and easier everytime so get some exercises or something to get that all healed up before it becomes a normal thing for it to pop out, that happened to my thumb and it sucks.
 
popped mine out like 3-4 times this year lol...definitely doing a hand drag nose butter 3 and some other dumb shit...my shoulder is absolutely fucked but i'll be working on rehabilitating it this summer extensively. not a fun time.
 
If you have had multiple dislocations I would highly recommend getting surgery.

I had ~15 dislocations + subluxations on my right shoulder before I got surgery (Bankart Repair). I rushed back into things and dislocated by shoulder after the surgery, but it would have surely dislocated because the surgery was unlikely to hold due the amount of trauma I had. I then had the Latarjet Procedure which is a more intensive repair for shoulders that have a lot of damage.

I had surgery on my left shoulder (Bankart Repair) after only one dislocation because I didn't want to experience what I experienced on my right shoulder.

Both of my shoulders are doing very well now, the bottom line is it can go downhill very quickly with each dislocation.

For skiing specifically, the biggest risk is falling on an outstretched arm or crashing with our arm in some funky position.

Good luck
 
topic:Gooskin said:
I just started doing hand drag tricks this year - but I don't really ski park. I started doing butters in pow with my hands on the ground, and some hand drag 3's off small cliffs. I never dislocated my shoulder skiing until this year, but then I did it twice in the span of a month - the first time with a hand drag butter and the second time from a hand drag 3 off a jump. Especially with how popular it is becoming to do a lot of tricks involving your hands in the park (like the bunch/vishnu style), how common is it for you guys to dislocate your shoulder while skiing? Does it even bother you anymore?

I'm worried if I keep doing these things and keep skiing like that (which I love), my shoulder will keep popping out...any thoughts?
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Was looking for a thread like this after I dislocated my shoulder yesterday in the park. Just wondering, did you have any problems skiing with it later on?
 
13903665:sky_steezy said:
Was looking for a thread like this after I dislocated my shoulder yesterday in the park. Just wondering, did you have any problems skiing with it later on?
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I dislocated it last season, and it bothered me for the rest of the season to be honest. it felt kinda unstable even when pole planting and stuff like that. This year, i noticed it a little bit, But i would highly recommend doing some shoulder lifts on a regular basis in the gym to strengthen your rotator cuff which will help the shoulder stay in place. I've had a few times this season that came close to dislocation again, but nothing actually bothered it. I also think that working on shoulder mobility and range of motion is key after dislocating it so that your muscles and ligaments don't tighten up and potentially rip the next time your shoulder is stretched to the limit.
 
13903665:sky_steezy said:
Was looking for a thread like this after I dislocated my shoulder yesterday in the park. Just wondering, did you have any problems skiing with it later on?
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Dislocated mine on December 28, I was back skiing by like February 20th after a month in the sling and 4 weeks of pt. I probably could have gone back earlier but I wanted almost all of my range of motion and some strength back before I got back out there just to be safer. Its really just risk vs reward. Risk of it coming out again and setting you back is high in the early months and still high after.

I'm still seeing the physical therapist and really focusing on getting my strength back. I ski with a shoulder brace now but I don't think it would help too much with the kind of fall where I dislocated it. I'm still not skiing as hard as I normally would and I'm not trying many new tricks but I guess I'm kinda being a pussy.
 
Dislocated mine about 2 years ago at the end of the season, did some PT and felt better but ended up landing switch with arms out to catch me and dislocated it again, it ended up coming out a few times during the summer, did more PT but at that point it didn't do shit and went a whole season of dislocating it once a month, think I ended up at about 12 dislocations, got to the point where if I swung my arm too hard it would pop out. Had Bankart surgery last summer and now it feels great, still strengthening it but am way less scared of awkward landings now that its stronger. 3+ dislocations almost will definitely need surgery if you don't want to worry about it coming out again and get it back to normal. with only 2 dislocations and depending how they happened, you might be able to get away with some PT to tighten your labrum back up and hopefully it wont come out again.
 
If you dislocate, even once properly, you have probably pulled ligaments off the bones and they’ll never reattach without surgery, even if you build up the surrounding muscle.

If you want to be confident you’ll be able to swing a golf club when you’re 50, get the reconstruction
 
13903665:sky_steezy said:
Was looking for a thread like this after I dislocated my shoulder yesterday in the park. Just wondering, did you have any problems skiing with it later on?
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I dislocated both my shoulders at the same time this season, it fucking sucked not having arms. I was probably out 7-8 weeks before I slowly started skiing again. I still ski fairly cautiously and try not to fall on them. The biggest tip I can give you is do the damn PT, not only will it get you on skis faster but it also makes your shoulder hurt less.
 
I subluxed (partial dislocation) my right shoulder back in 2014 skiing and have had 4 true dislocations since then. Most recent one happened in October when I was doing planks and my forearm slipped forward and the shoulder dislocated. It was the only dislocation I couldn't get back in place on my own so I had to go to the hospital and have a doc do it. Just got an MRI finally and it turns out I will need to have the Bankart repair surgery. Not looking forward to the surgery but I'm looking forward to having my mobility back and not be so worried about day to day shit popping my shoulder out.
 
13904425:OHIO said:
I subluxed (partial dislocation) my right shoulder back in 2014 skiing and have had 4 true dislocations since then. Most recent one happened in October when I was doing planks and my forearm slipped forward and the shoulder dislocated. It was the only dislocation I couldn't get back in place on my own so I had to go to the hospital and have a doc do it. Just got an MRI finally and it turns out I will need to have the Bankart repair surgery. Not looking forward to the surgery but I'm looking forward to having my mobility back and not be so worried about day to day shit popping my shoulder out.
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Good luck on your surgery. The good news is I’ve heard your shoulder comes completely back to normal once you have surgery.
 
Well this is shitty to hear all these posts about repeat dislocations. I subluxated my shoulder way back in HS, did PT and haven't had an issue since. Fucking today I dislocated my shoulder on my first run. Thank God I got it popped back in cuz that woulda ruined a sick day. My shoulder is fucked tho/can feel it is weak/unstable.
 
14405259:HypeBeast said:
Well this is shitty to hear all these posts about repeat dislocations. I subluxated my shoulder way back in HS, did PT and haven't had an issue since. Fucking today I dislocated my shoulder on my first run. Thank God I got it popped back in cuz that woulda ruined a sick day. My shoulder is fucked tho/can feel it is weak/unstable.
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I did the same thing except I’m still in HS…now you’ve got me paranoid
 
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