DIN too low? Or wrong technique?

[lion.pappa]

Hi guys, when I'm skiing all over the mtn I've never had pre-release with my bindings. But when I'm practicing nose presses on flat I would just get ejected from my bindings. Type 3 skier 170cm/80kg with a 8 DIN. Is my problem with the DIN being too low or am I pressing the skis in the wrong area or wrong way? Any advice appreciated! Cheers.

**This thread was edited on Nov 27th 2019 at 1:35:23am

 

[Traffic_Cone]

Crank em up

 

[eheeth]

is your forward pressure set right??

 

[lion.pappa]

is your forward pressure set right??

I believe so, just went to check with the boot in the binding.

 

[lion.pappa]

Crank em up

Haha yea, maybe to 8.5-9

 

[JmckR]

8 is way to low. Type III crank em up to 69

 

[DominatorJacques]

I believe so, just went to check with the boot in the binding.

You may need to go into the serious leg breaking DIN zone with the heel piece. Do you really want to take that kind of risk?

 

[hot.pocket]

Crank em up

Do not do this.

 

[Darc]

I'm 95kg riding at 8 and have no problems. I use to use to lose skis everywhere. I realised was kinda crossing tips slightly causing it to lever itselft off super easy.

 

[abar.]

I'd move up to 9 and see if it works (definitely check forward pressure first tho). I weigh about 10 kg less than you and run 8, might move up this season if I have issues because I'm aiming to go a lot bigger in cliffy areas where I don't want to fall. General DIN charts are not designed for butters, you will need to go 1 or 2 higher than recommended.

Blah blah blah there are obviously risks associated with this I am not qualified to give you advise regarding your safety make your own decision and do things at your own risk

 

[DominatorJacques]

I'd move up to 9 and see if it works (definitely check forward pressure first tho). I weigh about 10 kg less than you and run 8, might move up this season if I have issues because I'm aiming to go a lot bigger in cliffy areas where I don't want to fall. General DIN charts are not designed for butters, you will need to go 1 or 2 higher than recommended.

Blah blah blah there are obviously risks associated with this I am not qualified to give you advise regarding your safety make your own decision and do things at your own risk

Play at your own risk!

 

[lion.pappa]

So many people crank dins when forward pressure is fucked and it won't help, definitely double check this

Yea, I dont want to just crank up the din when skiing everywhere else is fine. I posted a photo of my forward pressure, seems to be right in the middle. You think a "higher/tighter" forward pressure will resolve my issue?

You may need to go into the serious leg breaking DIN zone with the heel piece. Do you really want to take that kind of risk?

For sure not..hence this post Wanted to see if anyone is experiencing the same thing or had the same problem before.

Do not do this.

Yea haha, just another day on the web.

I'm 95kg riding at 8 and have no problems. I use to use to lose skis everywhere. I realised was kinda crossing tips slightly causing it to lever itselft off super easy.

Yea, I don't really understand how DIN is calculated when my frnd 70kg me 81 and you 95 all at 8DIN..but being me and dont want to risk any knee injuries...I just stick to the DIN chart.

I'd move up to 9 and see if it works (definitely check forward pressure first tho). I weigh about 10 kg less than you and run 8, might move up this season if I have issues because I'm aiming to go a lot bigger in cliffy areas where I don't want to fall. General DIN charts are not designed for butters, you will need to go 1 or 2 higher than recommended.

Blah blah blah there are obviously risks associated with this I am not qualified to give you advise regarding your safety make your own decision and do things at your own risk

Thanks for the input! I've moved up from 6 to 8 over the years, but I've never went over the recommended DIN setting. Do you think a "higher/tighter" forward pressure might help this situation? Right now it seems to be in the middle.

 

[Ghost_BLandzV2]

Are they marker griffons?

 

[SavageBiff]

Hi guys, when I'm skiing all over the mtn I've never had pre-release with my bindings. But when I'm practicing nose presses on flat I would just get ejected from my bindings. Type 3 skier 170cm/80kg with a 8 DIN. Is my problem with the DIN being too low or am I pressing the skis in the wrong area or wrong way? Any advice appreciated! Cheers.

**This thread was edited on Nov 27th 2019 at 1:35:23am

I fooled around with my bindings before knowing what was what .... had same problem as you, identical , turns out I had tampered with the forward pressure , Didn’t know I had , this also led to my one ski ejecting on spins

my dins are now at rec and no problems after ski shop adjusted forward pressure this was on attak13 bindings

 

[ReturnToMonkey]

Are they marker griffons?

Similar question. Today I landed a cork 5 leaning to far forward and my brake broke. My guess is my heel lifted up and the brake came down enough to catch the snow and rip off. This has happened to my pivots too

 

[Ghost_BLandzV2]

Similar question. Today I landed a cork 5 leaning to far forward and my brake broke. My guess is my heel lifted up and the brake came down enough to catch the snow and rip off. This has happened to my pivots too

I don't think anybody who actually skis semi-hard has ever went a full season using pivots and not mangled their brakes.

Pivots are the worst for it but broken brakes happen a lot on switch ejections

 

[smh]

I don't think anybody who actually skis semi-hard has ever went a full season using pivots and not mangled their brakes.

Pivots are the worst for it but broken brakes happen a lot on switch ejections

This^

Yesterday was literally day 4 on my pivots and I fucked up the brakes

 

[lion.pappa]

I fooled around with my bindings before knowing what was what .... had same problem as you, identical , turns out I had tampered with the forward pressure , Didn’t know I had , this also led to my one ski ejecting on spins

my dins are now at rec and no problems after ski shop adjusted forward pressure this was on attak13 bindings

Yea, I have the atk13s too as well. But I have never played around with forward pressure and was just what the ski shop had it set at (shown in photo), does yours look the same? It seems to be right in the middle.

 

[BigPurpleSkiSuit]

I'm 6'4 190 lbs and I ski attack 13s on a 9 din it's almost certainly your forward pressure since I can nose press and butter without them popping.

 

[SavageBiff]

Yea, I have the atk13s too as well. But I have never played around with forward pressure and was just what the ski shop had it set at (shown in photo), does yours look the same? It seems to be right in the middle.

I'm 6'4 190 lbs and I ski attack 13s on a 9 din it's almost certainly your forward pressure since I can nose press and butter without them popping.

I’m 6’1 200ish.... 9.5 din

cant tell what my fwd pressures at but here’s a pic I could take another if it helps ?

my left ski only used to eject on spins and butters now it’s good

 

[BrawnTrends]

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Forward pressure looks spot on

 

[corona]

Din 8 does sound low for a 180lb skier if they're fully competent at skiing and are doing tricks. I'm 160 and ride at 9 and haven't yet had issues with them not releasing when they should. Although if I was skiing only park I'd put them at 8 and if I wasn't doing any park I'd put them at 10.

If your forward pressure is set right and you frequently release when you don't think you should be then I'd put them up a tiny bit.

 

[crustyboot.420]

I'd put the din to like 9 or 10

 

[TOAST.]

Make sure that nothing is broken on the binding. I had issues with PX12 and the track cracking so forward pressure looked fine but really wasnt.

 

[lion.pappa]

I'm 6'4 190 lbs and I ski attack 13s on a 9 din it's almost certainly your forward pressure since I can nose press and butter without them popping.

I'll ask my local ski shop if it continues to happen and see if a tighter forward pressure would help. Thanks!

I’m 6’1 200ish.... 9.5 din

cant tell what my fwd pressures at but here’s a pic I could take another if it helps ?

my left ski only used to eject on spins and butters now it’s good

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Thanks for the photo! I'm now at least sure my forward pressure is correct.

Forward pressure looks spot on

Yea, it seems to be fine, maybe there would be such a thing as "tighter" forward pressure.

Din 8 does sound low for a 180lb skier if they're fully competent at skiing and are doing tricks. I'm 160 and ride at 9 and haven't yet had issues with them not releasing when they should. Although if I was skiing only park I'd put them at 8 and if I wasn't doing any park I'd put them at 10.

If your forward pressure is set right and you frequently release when you don't think you should be then I'd put them up a tiny bit.

I'm gonna put it to 8.5 to test it out and see how it goes.

I'd put the din to like 9 or 10

I'll go 0.5 at a time Thanks for the input!

Make sure that nothing is broken on the binding. I had issues with PX12 and the track cracking so forward pressure looked fine but really wasnt.

I see, will def take note. Looking from the outside nothing seem to be broken.