Din for aggresive skiing

snakerton

snakerton

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I used the search bar but i found no good answers.

ok im 15 years old

6'

130 lbs

27.5 boot size

315 sole length

3+ skier

i've tried setting bindings according to the chart but i come out too easily. i don't know how high to put it. i would test it but i don't enjoy purposely eating shit to test my bindings. what should i put my din?

 
If you're popping out a lot, first check to see if the forward pressure is correct on your bindings. If you don't know how google it or take your skis into a shop and ask. After that, you're pretty much going to have to slowly dial it up until you don't pop out too often. You don't want to just crank them, as that would really increase the risk of knee injury
 
ok I'm all for trolling once in awhile but not when it can seriously injure someone.

My suggestion is definitely ask a legit shop and make sure the guy knows what he is talking about, because in some cases they really don't
 
well they are the ones who mounted and set my bindings. they did what they are supposed to do, set them to the chart. but its not working for me. maybe because im too tall for my weight of something
 
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bindings were never designed for park skiing. one thing you can do is work on your landings. I know landing tricks isn't something bindings probably want to do, but if you make nice, flat, smooth landings you should put less strain on your bindings and not pop out.
 
fucking max it out you puss-bag. Fucking get some 18 dinners and max those pups the fuck out. You will come out when it matters dude, i promise you. And you can trust me man, i'm white.
 
As above, check your forward pressure first (or get it checked at a shop). If you feel like you're already using quite a high DIN then you may want to get the release pressure tested.

In terms of going up, bump your DIN up 1 DIN at a time or even 0.5 at a time until you're comfortable with the retention you're getting. 1 DIN can make a pretty huge difference. If you want to get an idea of how it'll feel in a bail, try kicking the tip of a ski sideways into the ground until it comes off.

Disclaimer: Taking binding advice from the internet will cause your legs to turn into mashed potato and be eaten by swarms of insects. So don't do it, you'll die and Splice Productions will film it.
 
If your leaving a ski on the jump you might be popping to early. If it's on the landing focus on the way you lock and drop it.
 
i didnt take it as sarcasm. Im supposed to have a 6.5 din techincaly but i ski at a 10-10.5. so 4-5 higher. i know people that should have their dins at like 7 if it was proper but they ski at 14-16 because they dont want to eject. its essentially the difference between how much you want to risk blowing your knee and how often you want to eject. i blew my knee at 12 ish on sth 16's when i think it should have ejected. or maybe nothing could have been done but anyways....

here is a salomon din chart

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marker din chart

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rossi din chart

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thats one of the stupidest things ive heard in a while gtfo

To OP, go to a shop, check your forward pressure and crank your din up slowly, trust me you dont want knee surgery it sucks.
 
im in the same boat as him, ive tried doing something similar to that before just to see what would happen, i ended up loosing weight, due to the food lacking so much in nutrition. When youve got a crazy high metabolism the only way to really put on weight is through muscle.
 
Don't listen to these pussies, crank that shit as high as possible. If your skis can't pop off you can't fall.
 
You're skiing Griffons right?

What are they currently set to? If I was you I'd start off at 6 and go from there.

Here's the bit where we get all serious-faced about knee injury and put the fear of god in you. I'm not a doctor, but I've gone through the whole ruined knee business and it SUCKS.

Being 15, you're probably approaching skeletal maturity but it's possible that your growth plates (the bits in your bones that do the actual lengthening) aren't finished. If you tear an ACL, the conventional way (if you're using a patellar graft) of replacing it involves drilling into your tibia to insert a bone plug that's attached to the graft. If your growth plates aren't hardened yet, there's a good chance this will cause them to freak the hell out and stop growing properly. The worst case scenario with that is that your tibia stops lengthening while the other one continues, and you end up with different length legs. While this is real handy for traversing (in one direction only), it will seriously screw your skiing life up when they want to repeatedly break your leg and put it in traction until it's the same length as the other one.

When you're like 18, 20, that kind of age, your bones are significantly harder and the potential consequences of an ACL injury are considerably lessened. Also you'll bulk up and have more muscle to protect your ligaments in a crash.

Unless you're skiing in a manner that a ski coming off at a bad time would cause more injury than it not releasing in a crash, take the hits and keep your DINs sensible.

Sparknotes: I think 10 DIN is way too much for you. My friend who is an ex racer, instructor and general madman skis on 10, and he weighs quite a bit more than you.
 
No one is going to have the perfect anwser your looking for. If you blame the din you've got to test it. Less is more til you get it right.
 
i dont understand why some people have so much trouble with their din, and skis pre-releasing. Learn how to land correctly and you wont have issues. One of my skis has a heelpeice din stuck 6 and the toe at 8, i have zero problems with skis pre-releasing.
 
thank you. i will keep that in mind. i have no problems with the griffons that are currenty set at 8. i am having the trouble with the sth 14 which are also set at an 8
 
If you're skiing around the mountain and doing comp runs on the same pair, which generally I would think you would do there should be a sliding scale.

For example, I weigh 170 lbs and I'm 5' 11".

I generally run mine at 11 for pretty much any application aside from comps and fuck off gnarly lines where I'll run anything from 12 to 16.

However, check your forward pressure before you even think of touching your dins. Have a shop do this if you have have doubts about how to do it or god forbid, what it is. Then move them up one setting at a time until you are no longer blowing out. Then STOP. At that point leave them alone unless you really, really feel like you need those fuckers locked to your foot.

 
The heelpiece of most bindings is mounted on a very short springloaded track that allows the heel to move forward and backward a small distance. If you click a boot into the ski and watch the heel you'll see it slide backwards then back forwards as the boot clicks in. This allows for small variations in the length of the ski underfoot due to the the ski flexing, as well as a cleaner release when you pop the heel up. It also provides forwards pressure to make sure the toepiece is fully engaged.

A sign of huge problems with forward pressure is if you have a forwards bail, which generally results in a vertical heel release, but the heelpiece is still in the 'closed' position. This indicates that you came out of the binding before the heel's DIN spring actually got involved.

When you come out of your skis it's worth noting whether it was the toe or the heel that released. If it was the heel it should be in the 'open' position. Coming out of the heel a lot tends to indicate that you might be landing too far forward. If you're coming out at the toe, it could be a forward pressure thing (and with STHs, if they have the driver toe, you also need to check the toe wing height) or DIN.

But if you don't understand forward pressure, you probably shouldn't be messing with your bindings - get your local shop to check it all over.

 
I'm about 120 lbs, and I never ride anything less than 9. 10-11 is where I like it. The problem is how far in the motha-fuckin paint you are planning to go. High DIN settings make it nice so you don't pop out, but the knee danger is much, much higher.
 
level 3+ skiers don't start stupid threads in the wrong forum when there is a sticky in the right forumplease reevaluate your skill level

and eat something
 
I'm 99% sure his binders are just not adjusted right. I'm 200lbs and ski harder than any of you pussies (because I'm the best skier on the mountain) and I never pop out at 8, just because I know how to set my bindings correctly.

People have no idea how to set bindings. High DIN =/= cool, just fucking stupid.
 
i'm 5'6" 155 lbs and i have it at 10 or 11

just crank it up a half and ski around for a bit

if you're popping out too much, turn it up another half

keep doing that until you find where you have the retention that you need while still popping out when necessary
 
In that case you suck at skiing and should revise your technique. DIN's are a set standard for weight, level, boot size and length. Unless your technique sucks or huck cliffs like Hoji, you're not gonna pop-out of your ski's. I'm betting it's the way you ski
 
this whole thread is a fucking joke. read the binding thread in gear talk and post in there if you need help.

if you are popping out at 8 there is something wrong, more then likely your forward pressure, but it could be anything so take them to a shop and have a different tech check them out then who mounted them.

and not all bindings release the same way, I ride my park skis at 8 and my pow skis at 11, I have never had a pre release and have ejected out of both of them before, I find that din is a personal thing and something that you cant go off of a chart for. that being said I take no responsibility for what you set your din to and am not liable in anyway for you thinking you are bode miller and blowing your knees apart.
 
No one is going to give you the right answer. I ride mine at 12-14. That's also because i ski stuff where I can't have a ski fall off.

Park? I ride at 11-12.

Din setting threads are about as worthless as boot fitting threads. Only so much information will help.

 
I had the same problem the first couple times out in my new bindings this year and they set it to 6 and i popped out way to much and i set it to 8 and whenever ive needed them to pop out they have and im 6' and about 145 lbs.
 
ur pretty light for your height so If you really do ski aggressively I would start at an 8, if it pops out a few times when you think it shouldn't have go for a 9, but I wouldn't go past 10.
 
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