Detuning Vishnu’s
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CatdickBojangles
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Rounds the edges off so that they don’t crack as easily on rails and don’t catch on rails.
Weirdo_Puppy
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It’s basically unsharpening your skis where they make contact with the rail. It helps prevent edge cracks and makes them slide better.
closeyetfar11
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Detune on tip & tail prevents the ski from feeling catchy & hooky. It also enables a smoother edge to edge transition while turning. A ski that isn't detuned in the tail may feel like you can't get out of your turn. Detune underfoot to your tastes for park skiing.
armchair_skier
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run your wrists back and forth on the edge to check to see if you need a detune
sqeellicbic
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14204421:Keeneo said:
Yeah it does. But if you ski more park than all mountain then you're gonna want to detune.
Bended_Toenail
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14204421:Keeneo said:
Lol yeah, but they are Vishnu's so you probably won't do much carving on them anyway.
If you are going to be hitting a lot of rails/urban, you should detune, otherwise there is no need to.
WisconsinDogfart
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on a side note, how much should i detune
sqeellicbic
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14204432:WisconsinDogfart said:
as much as possible underfoot and the tips and tails but not at all on the contact points
WisconsinDogfart
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14204435:sqeellicbic said:
i have detuned the underfoot area but why tips and tails?
sqeellicbic
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14204446:WisconsinDogfart said:
So you don't catch an edge while buttering. Since those parts never touch the snow unless you're buttering you're gonna want to detune them.
armchair_skier
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14204421:Keeneo said:
why tf did your parents buy you vishnus if you wanted to carve all mountain lol
GunNARshredder
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14204435:sqeellicbic said:
Just grind it to the base underfoot. Take a little off the tips and tails. Full edge everywhere else
hi_vis360
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14204556:Keeneo said:
idk why people are downvoting you for this, I have been riding Vs for three seasons and they are super fun in all types of soft snow, everywhere on the mountain. They're especially good for tight, bumped out trees. Awful on icy hardpack days but you can say that about most park skis
PimpChimpin
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When you buy Vishnu’s I’d hope you know what detuning is but I digress
BigmoneyMatt
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14204421:Keeneo said:
My guy bought vishnu's now hes tryna hit the back bowls
supersquid
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14204419:armchair_skier said:
Its very important you do this lengthwise not widthwise
clorox
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14204426:sqeellicbic said:
*If you ski any park at all...
Hitting rails at all on a ski that hasn't been detuned in my experience will result in edge cracks. In the very least, dull the edges binding to binding. IMO learning to ski all mtn on detuned edges will make you a much better skier and improve your balance anyway.
hot.pocket
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14204530:armchair_skier said:
14205398:koenhelmke said:
14205400:DeadB said:
Every single one of you was in this kid's shoes at some point, I was in this kid's shoes at one point.
Vishnu isn't going to survive if it's just you super core skiers who know everything buying them.
Cut the kid some slack and give a decent answer instead of just throwing shade and acting cool.
AngleDirector
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Take a file and file down the edge underfoot till it’s full, this prolongs the life of the edge on the ski and makes rails easier
BigmoneyMatt
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14206650:hot.pocket said:
I just don't see the point in buying vishnus if you don't know what detuning is.
Plus I thought it was funny that he bought vishnus and is tryna hit moguls or some shit, he will literally eat so much shit, vishnus aren't easy to ski big mountain with.
If you want me to give the dude actual advice, fine.
don't ride vishnus get K2's or some shit. They aren't easy to ride and from a beginner standpoint like learning the basic rotations or just hitting jumps in general they are extremely soft so learning ur 720's and shit is gunna be a rough time.
But since you already bought them, that sucks man they don't magically make you good at butters.
BigmoneyMatt
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14207362:Keeneo said:
Square up Pboy
hi_vis360
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14207360:DeadB said:
lmao I disagree with everything in this
- vishnu wets are actually pretty good mogul skis in my experience. also do you consider moguls "big mountain" hahaha
- yeah vishnus arent the best jump skis, this guy probably already knows that, nobody buying Vs is trying to trippple cork
- they're extremely easy to butter on, so yeah they do kinda make you magically good a butters
from the way you're talking about it, the only people who should be allowed to buy vishnus must be able to do a 720. What other tricks to they need to know? k - fed? backflip? lip blind 2?
stop being a gatekeeper and let people ski on the skis they want to ski. we should be stoked this homie is supporting a rad brand like vishnu. he asked a simple question about how to properly care for his skis, which is a perfect use for this website, and you're just giving him shit for not already knowing the answer.
I'm sorry it will make you feel less cool and special now that there are more people riding Vs, but I think you will survive.
DominatorJacques
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[video]https://youtu.be/N_aWiX_fekI[/video]
BigmoneyMatt
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14207399:pinkcamo1000 said:
Gotta roast him online before he gets roasted behind his back in the park. sorry not sorry.
"vishnu wets are actually pretty good mogul skis in my experience. also do you consider moguls "big mountain" hahaha"
- If you're riding all mountain (excluding back country) you're bound to ski quite a bit of runs that are moguley. Unless you're actively avoiding them. Also who the fuck said Big-mountain?? He said all mountain. Thats moguls. So to answer your question no I do not think big mountain is moguls.
"yeah vishnus arent the best jump skis, this guy probably already knows that, nobody buying Vs is trying to trippple cork"
-I think its more likely he's just been watching video parts and seeing a lot of vishnus, considering he doesn't know what detuning is I'de argue he had no idea Vs aren't the best jump ski's. My point being that learning your fundamentals on vishnus is kinda retarded.
"they're extremely easy to butter on, so yeah they do kinda make you magically good a butters"
-False. Again, harder to learn on because they have more give so the balancing point is further past comfort for people learning.
I'm not gatekeeping, if I saw the dude on the hill I'de probably tell him "nice vishnus".
Just being real instead of putting on a fake persona for the "kid". He's a teenager, I'm sure he can take it, yall acting like he's your little sister.
Sorry I offended you by claiming that vishnus are harder to learn on. Sorry for stating the truth, you also seem to think that me saying harder means impossible.
ScaryDumpTruck
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14207360:DeadB said:
"YoU hAvE tO bE cOrE tO rIdE vIsHnUs"
CatdickBojangles
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My shop sharpened the edges on my wides and I didn’t notice til I took them out today. Wish I would’ve known they did that before getting hooked into turns and almost dying. Just finished detuning them.
**This post was edited on Dec 5th 2020 at 9:59:21pm
**This post was edited on Dec 5th 2020 at 9:59:21pm
DominatorJacques
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14207651:CatdickBojangles said:
Either a shitty tune, or you need to work on your skiing.
A shitty tune can destroy a good skier.
Having a well tuned ski is paramount to becoming a better skier.
When it is done right, it takes that part out of the equation.
Then you know whether it is you, or the skis.
Then again, some folks don't know how to ski a well tuned ski.
CatdickBojangles
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14207658:DominatorJacques said:
Most likely both. But I feel like it was most likely the tune. Happened on another pair of skis from the same shop.
DominatorJacques
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14207659:CatdickBojangles said:
If you can carve like a "F"ing demon, then it's probably not you.
Best to learn to tune your own skis.
Big investment and learning curve, but then you will never again rely on some stupid machine or people.
If you are young and expect to ski for years, the time to start is now.
urbanskiier99
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topic:Keeneo said:
The answer is in your question wtf
SofaKingSick
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yo i'm handing out juice boxes and tons of you fuckers need one
detuning isn't super intuitive and everyone has an opinion on it, asking about it is smart before doing anything to new skis
detuning isn't super intuitive and everyone has an opinion on it, asking about it is smart before doing anything to new skis
ghoti_hook
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14293746:asparagus said:
BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Dominator Jacques has good tutorials to reference but they are very long. I messed around with detuning a lot last year because I had some Völkls that 1) I didn’t prep correctly 2) they were edge high.
I got rid of those and successively detuned some Lines after.
You'll want a file (I used a Toko World Cup file M), gummy stone (possibly fine sand paper) and a Diamond file. Here’s a good link
I would suggest following these instructions but use a true ski file and hit it with the gummy stone after and then a Diamond file to really smooth it out. What helps too, if you can wait, is ski around and avoid rails for the first day or two so that the mountain will naturally detune the edges a bit more.
Thats just my 2 cents.
I got rid of those and successively detuned some Lines after.
You'll want a file (I used a Toko World Cup file M), gummy stone (possibly fine sand paper) and a Diamond file. Here’s a good link
I would suggest following these instructions but use a true ski file and hit it with the gummy stone after and then a Diamond file to really smooth it out. What helps too, if you can wait, is ski around and avoid rails for the first day or two so that the mountain will naturally detune the edges a bit more.
Thats just my 2 cents.
14293746:asparagus said:
washcloths
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Name one song by Vishnu…
washcloths
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Shrek…Shrek 2….. Shrek 3…… uhhhhh
14323653:pinkcamo1000 said:
DominatorJacques
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14325104:sarc said:
Yea, good waxes are not cheap. The new FFC line is not too expensive though. I don't sell the stuff, I'm just a user.