Derek Chauvin Trial

AndrewGravesSV

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Verdict drops in a few hours. Fun fact, Chauvin already agreed to plea guilty to third degree murder charges but William Barr denied it. It would be pretty insane for him to catch anything but a murder charge considering there is video of George Floyd being murdered.

The real question, is will people be too stoned to riot??
 
the cop was a douche but having fentanyl in your system isn't a good look. This dude was arrested like 20 something times. At some point your luck will run out dealing with the pigs.
 
Given all the conflicting evidence we've seen, I think they may have overcharged the guy. It's not easy to have a murder charge stick when the guy has a much fentanyl in his system as was alleged. I've also seen people saying that what Chauvin used was a restraint technique taught to officers. I honestly have no idea if he's guilty or not, I just don't want people to fucking riot again. shits annoying. I'm sure the 12 people in the deliberation room did the best job they could with the evidence provided by both sides of the case.
 
14279288:zues said:
the cop was a douche but having fentanyl in your system isn't a good look. This dude was arrested like 20 something times. At some point your luck will run out dealing with the pigs.
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haven't you been arrested a bunch of time?
 
I hope chauvin goes on a diet before prison.

hes gotta make room for the 1500 black cocks that are about to take up residence in his colon.
 
Guilty on all 3 charges too. Wow. Derek Chauvin could spend the rest of his life in prison. For the sake of this case and for the sake of unity in this country, I think the Jury made the right call.
 
14279320:goofygoober0104 said:
that's the thing you're celebrating?
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I mean it's already a given that I'm glad the jurors made the choice they deemed correct. i really didn't have an opinion of guilt before just based on a lot of the conflicting evidence I saw. But yes I am also celebrating no riots because they do nothing but bring down communities and destroy property that has nothing to do with the case. I'm totally down with protests tho, love those.
 
14279332:BrandoComando said:
Guilty on all 3 charges too. Wow. Derek Chauvin could spend the rest of his life in prison. For the sake of this case and for the sake of unity in this country, I think the Jury made the right call.
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'Unity of the country' is not something a jury should have to worry about. I bet the defense appeals becuase of the threats of violence if the verdict went the other way. I don't think it matters cause a new jury would face all the same if not more pressure.
 
Thank god, fucker deserves to Rot. hopefully this will be a message to all the other dirty cops that their get out of jail free card are gonna be revoked
 
If he was guilty he was guilty. But making a choice out of fear of a woke mob that’ll destroy their own city is not the right way to go about it.
 
The police fucked up big time letting that girl leave with her cell phone. They could have just killed her too and taken it no one would have ever known any different
 
14279397:Casey said:
The police fucked up big time letting that girl leave with her cell phone. They could have just killed her too and taken it no one would have ever known any different
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Of all the bad takes that could have been made in this thread, this is worse than I could have imagined.
 
14279368:r00kie said:
'Unity of the country' is not something a jury should have to worry about. I bet the defense appeals becuase of the threats of violence if the verdict went the other way. I don't think it matters cause a new jury would face all the same if not more pressure.
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Chauvin was getting convicted regardless of the media coverage. The prosecution accused him of three levels of murder. If he was found innocent of Second-Degree, he could still be guilty of Third-Degree. If Third-Degree didn't work out, there was Manslaughter. It was pretty clear after the defense that he was going to be convicted. We just didn't know whether it was one, two, or all three charges.

I don't know why my opinion was controversial. I'm pretty damn glad there hasn't been a negative response to the case results. The LA riots and certain pockets of the BLM movement proved how destructive riots can be. I truly believe the Jury made the right decision regardless of outside circumstances.

That being said, Maxine Waters fucked up big time. Politicians need to stay the fuck out of judicial cases.
 
14279397:Casey said:
The police fucked up big time letting that girl leave with her cell phone. They could have just killed her too and taken it no one would have ever known any different
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Maybe of they would have killed her police murdered would like reach a 10th of a percent of the people who murder eachother daily in Chicago.

Wouldn’t that be neat? Oh what? That’s not on the news nor do you care about it ? Shut your mouth you stupid duck
 
14279404:BrandoComando said:
Chauvin was getting convicted regardless of the media coverage. The prosecution accused him of three levels of murder. If he was found innocent of Second-Degree, he could still be guilty of Third-Degree. If Third-Degree didn't work out, there was Manslaughter. It was pretty clear after the defense that he was going to be convicted. We just didn't know whether it was one, two, or all three charges.

I don't know why my opinion was controversial. I'm pretty damn glad there hasn't been a negative response to the case results. The LA riots and certain pockets of the BLM movement proved how destructive riots can be. I truly believe the Jury made the right decision regardless of outside circumstances.

That being said, Maxine Waters fucked up big time. Politicians need to stay the fuck out of judicial cases.
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I'm not going to comment on whether I agree with the verdict or not, it not my place and it's above my pay grade. However, you mention the jury making the right choice for the unity of the country. In order for due process to work as intended, a jury must be able to look a case without concern for the outside world such as 'unity.' The facts of the case are the only factors that should matter. But as I said before, a re-trial will only be worse for that.
 
14279409:r00kie said:
I'm not going to comment on whether I agree with the verdict or not, it not my place and it's above my pay grade. However, you mention the jury making the right choice for the unity of the country. In order for due process to work as intended, a jury must be able to look a case without concern for the outside world such as 'unity.' The facts of the case are the only factors that should matter. But as I said before, a re-trial will only be worse for that.
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I agree with that completely. The Jury shouldn't be responsible for how others react. My wording in my original comment wasn't clear enough
 
14279402:r00kie said:
Of all the bad takes that could have been made in this thread, this is worse than I could have imagined.
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Im not talking about right and wrong, just in terms of pure self preservation they made a big mistake allowing people to see how they do business
 
14279414:BrandoComando said:
Did you have a stroke?
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I just find it funny when we’re angry at cops but no one cares about other people killing each other which happens on a daily basis. I ate so I’m calm again. My bad.
 
Now let’s watch Minneapolis rioters still destroy their own city. Ahhh yes should be good.
 
14279412:BrandoComando said:
I agree with that completely. The Jury shouldn't be responsible for how others react. My wording in my original comment wasn't clear enough
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No worries, I jumped to some of my own conclusions, which I should not have.
 
14279421:zues said:
I just find it funny when we’re angry at cops but no one cares about other people killing each other which happens on a daily basis. I ate so I’m calm again. My bad.
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That is a really typical dumb guy response and I’ve heard that a ton. It makes sense if you don’t/can’t think about it.
 
14279288:zues said:
the cop was a douche but having fentanyl in your system isn't a good look. This dude was arrested like 20 something times. At some point your luck will run out dealing with the pigs.
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bad take, doesnt mean he should die under the knee of a kook regardless of his drug usage.
 
14279421:zues said:
I just find it funny when we’re angry at cops but no one cares about other people killing each other which happens on a daily basis. I ate so I’m calm again. My bad.
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Man, I sometimes feel like you either spend way too much time on Twitter, watching fox news, or are just trolling. I would wager that the majority of Americans, liberal or conservative, agree with and are more similar to each other than they are to their respective political parties, politicians and presidents.

This just comes off as a crying liberal but from the other side of the aisle. Again, most of the population generally agrees on things and most of the population isn't the "triggered leftists" on Twitter you love to reference. Most are just hardworking Americans trying to improve their lives.
 
14279468:rubberpantaloons said:
bad take, doesnt mean he should die under the knee of a kook regardless of his drug usage.
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Wasn’t the whole point of this trial to figure out if it was the knee or the fentanyl that killed him. Welcome to the conversation dumbass.
 
14279288:zues said:
the cop was a douche but having fentanyl in your system isn't a good look. This dude was arrested like 20 something times. At some point your luck will run out dealing with the pigs.
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holy shit
 
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Bringing this bad boy to the next city I burn down
 
Justice has been served imo. Hopefully, police around the country will learn from this and work towards dropping their "us vs them" mentality that they've adopted in recent years.
 
14279660:zues said:
How does it feel to take the internet seriously you fucking square.
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No one takes what you say seriously. You think you're joking but you look like someone that thinks they are always right but never is, its just sad like really really sad.
 
14279468:rubberpantaloons said:
bad take, doesnt mean he should die under the knee of a kook regardless of his drug usage.
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This exactly, cops shouldn't kill people and should try to deescalate situations. Not a hot take. The fact there are all these mental gymnastics after the fact to justify the murder is bullshit. I can't go choke someone to death and then justify it because they had lung cancer saying "it might've just been the cancer that killed them". The drug use aspect is a conservative talking point meant to demonize any drug user to prop up justification for the war on drugs. Equivalating drug use to a moral failing deserving of punishment by death is insane.

14279568:zues said:
Wasn’t the whole point of this trial to figure out if it was the knee or the fentanyl that killed him. Welcome to the conversation dumbass.
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I don't understand how you could have seen the video or read the body cam transcripts and think the fentanyl killed George Floyd. He literally said he couldn't fucking breathe 20 times, and when one of the other officers showed a bit of a conscience and suggested rolling him over Chauvin said no. Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd and that is a fact under law now.

The media narrative is exhausting and super cherry picked to emphasize the racial aspect within the problems of policing in America. We don't really have a free press in our country and thats looking at ALL the networks. Fox is straight propaganda for the GOP and MSNBC is biased crap for liberals wanting to be outraged but nothing more. Trump saying fake news had a lot of validity to it, but people turning to Fox as the only reliable source is fucking laughable. Where our press fails is where the blame never really falls on how broken our system is itself. Right now, left wing news outlets are capitalizing on the energy of social justice groups to push this as a race issue and cherry picking stories to fit that narrative. They don't include all the facts to better generate outrage, but it seems disingenuous and leaves a lot of talking points for conservative media to spin. It only serves to divide people from pointing fingers at the system as a whole.

There have only been 7 police officers, including Chauvin, convicted of murder while on duty since 2005. Around 1000 people each year are killed by police. Do you really think that all of those killings were completely justified? Without even going into the race aspect of it all, I think that everyone should be pissed about that. For a rich country, our police sure do seem to kill a ton of citizens and not be held accountable.

Stats:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/police-killings-by-country
 
14279670:AndrewGravesSV said:
This exactly, cops shouldn't kill people and should try to deescalate situations. Not a hot take. The fact there are all these mental gymnastics after the fact to justify the murder is bullshit. I can't go choke someone to death and then justify it because they had lung cancer saying "it might've just been the cancer that killed them". The drug use aspect is a conservative talking point meant to demonize any drug user to prop up justification for the war on drugs. Equivalating drug use to a moral failing deserving of punishment by death is insane.

I don't understand how you could have seen the video or read the body cam transcripts and think the fentanyl killed George Floyd. He literally said he couldn't fucking breathe 20 times, and when one of the other officers showed a bit of a conscience and suggested rolling him over Chauvin said no. Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd and that is a fact under law now.

The media narrative is exhausting and super cherry picked to emphasize the racial aspect within the problems of policing in America. We don't really have a free press in our country and thats looking at ALL the networks. Fox is straight propaganda for the GOP and MSNBC is biased crap for liberals wanting to be outraged but nothing more. Trump saying fake news had a lot of validity to it, but people turning to Fox as the only reliable source is fucking laughable. Where our press fails is where the blame never really falls on how broken our system is itself. Right now, left wing news outlets are capitalizing on the energy of social justice groups to push this as a race issue and cherry picking stories to fit that narrative. They don't include all the facts to better generate outrage, but it seems disingenuous and leaves a lot of talking points for conservative media to spin. It only serves to divide people from pointing fingers at the system as a whole.

There have only been 7 police officers, including Chauvin, convicted of murder while on duty since 2005. Around 1000 people each year are killed by police. Do you really think that all of those killings were completely justified? Without even going into the race aspect of it all, I think that everyone should be pissed about that. For a rich country, our police sure do seem to kill a ton of citizens and not be held accountable.

Stats:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/police-killings-by-country
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I agree with everything you said here except calling Fox propaganda for the right and MSNBC playing to liberal bias. I’d say, if anything, CNN is literally propaganda for the left (caught admitting it by Project Veritas). So any spin Fox puts on something CNN does on the other side of the spectrum. The fact that they have been caught on camera admitting this and the only repercussions is Project Veritas getting permanently banned from Twitter is absolutely wild.

Other than that, well said.
 
14279673:Charlie_Kelly said:
I agree with everything you said here except calling Fox propaganda for the right and MSNBC playing to liberal bias. I’d say, if anything, CNN is literally propaganda for the left (caught admitting it by Project Veritas). So any spin Fox puts on something CNN does on the other side of the spectrum. The fact that they have been caught on camera admitting this and the only repercussions is Project Veritas getting permanently banned from Twitter is absolutely wild.

Other than that, well said.
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They both are propaganda 100% and are forms of social control by wealthy elites. I only made the distinction because Fox from its inception has had the goal to "putting the GOP on TV news", where others started out with the goal of unbiased news before becoming beholden to advertising dollars. It's really shit how most people are angry about the same problems with the US but hate each other based on where they get their news from (outside of the vocal minority of backwards religious bigots fuck them). There is a huge lack of critical thinking in the US that is exacerbated by pretty much all mainstream news distorting/ignoring facts and creating narratives leading away from the real issues.
 
14279331:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
They'll appeal i bet, probably based on undue influence on the jury since Minneapolis would have burned
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I think so as well, there is no way that the Jury did not feel threatened or influenced by the rioters and violence. It didnt help that the Liberal politicians couldn't hold their tongue until the trial was over. They should have declared a misstrial when the Defense Witness got Doxxed and BLM put a bunch of blood on his house and a pig head. (They actually got the wrong house which is pretty messed up in itself)
 
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